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Should George W. Bush be impeached?

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It actually makes a little sense given the interest rate cut. It is all done in order to stimulate spending and to forestall a recession. Also with the dollar low, investment in the US increases. Even we are considering investing some money in some US funds to benefit off the exchange rate which we hope will see a reversal within the next 2 years.
It's been done before (by the same dumbass in office), and it didn't work. At all.
 
As long as you agree to pay for whatever taxes the government comes back for later on to cover the costs of this ******ed idea, including the interest, you're welcome to it. :up:

jag

Heh, kudos for the fiscal backlash update but I'll risk it.:up:

On another note, not that I'm not happy with some extra cash, but this has a very faint Socialist feel to it.:csad:
 
Heh, kudos for the fiscal backlash update but I'll risk it.:up:

On another note, not that I'm not happy with some extra cash, but this has a very faint Socialist feel to it.:csad:

Yes, let's cut open the goose and get all the golden eggs. Nurturing it and feeding it so that it will continue to lay golden eggs for a long time to come is just silly.

jag
 
As long as you agree to pay for whatever taxes the government comes back for later on to cover the costs of this ******ed idea, including the interest, you're welcome to it. :up:

jag

LOL Exactly- I cant believe so many got excited over this.People,its a REBATE on your 09 taxes! Its not a surpluss of 'free money' like last time!
Any economic 'boost'(lol) is going to be an economic **** in your butt next year.
WTG chimpy,..u is teh smartz
 
The front page of the paper here says:

- If you paid taxes in 2007 - $300
- If you didn't - $600

Somebody is lying around here. I want my 600 bucks.
 
I LOVE Keith Olbermann to no limit!

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Merriam-Webster said:
Fascism - a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

Sounds about right to me!
 
Wow. That's the harshest verbal smackdown backed by a whole lot of facts and truthiness I think I've ever seen anyone give BushCo. Olbermann Will probably wake up with a sack of his head, tied to a chair somewhere in the Ukraine for his brutal honesty, but I still applaud him.

jag
 
I'm not sure I agree with that definition. I always thought of fascism as a political ideology that opposes Communism and supports violence against a feared minority. It always takes root in countries with a large middle class, who have much to fear from a Communist regime. America may have had some facist leanings in the 1950's, but I would call Bush an opportunist. And a dumbass. Mostly a dumbass. We have a corporate raider in the White House. The Iraq War was a hostile business takeover.
 
Demo, that definition of fascism is right and Bush is a fascist.
 
I'm not sure I agree with that definition. I always thought of fascism as a political ideology that opposes Communism and supports violence against a feared minority. It always takes root in countries with a large middle class, who have much to fear from a Communist regime. America may have had some facist leanings in the 1950's, but I would call Bush an opportunist. And a dumbass. Mostly a dumbass. We have a corporate raider in the White House. The Iraq War was a hostile business takeover.

Demo, that definition of fascism is right and Bush is a fascist.
Wrong:

fas·cism
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(fāsh'ĭz'əm) Pronunciation Key
n.
  1. <LI minmax_bound="true">often Fascism</FONT minmax_bound="true">
    1. <LI minmax_bound="true">A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
    2. A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.
  2. Oppressive, dictatorial control.
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Olberman is an *******.

Its funny how the very people that bash O'Reilly - whose style is far less biased, aggressive and immature than Olberman - are the very ones that salute Keith. :up:
 
Olberman is an *******.

Its funny how the very people that bash O'Reilly - whose style is far less biased, aggressive and immature than Olberman - are the very ones that salute Keith. :up:
No, it's not funny, Olberman makes himself out to be a News Anchor, O'Reilly makes himself out to be a Commentator. There is a difference. One tells you the "truth" the other tells you his opinion. Once we lose News and all we have is opinion, in diguise as the truth, we've lost Freedom to make our own opinion.

Again, 1984.
 
Olberman is an *******.

Its funny how the very people that bash O'Reilly - whose style is far less biased, aggressive and immature than Olberman - are the very ones that salute Keith. :up:

It really fails to surprise me any longer.:o
 
Eh, how many times can Olbermann say the same ****?
 
Olberman is an *******.

Its funny how the very people that bash O'Reilly - whose style is far less biased, aggressive and immature than Olberman - are the very ones that salute Keith. :up:

They're two sides of the same coin, to be honest.

No, it's not funny, Olberman makes himself out to be a News Anchor, O'Reilly makes himself out to be a Commentator. There is a difference. One tells you the "truth" the other tells you his opinion. Once we lose News and all we have is opinion, in diguise as the truth, we've lost Freedom to make our own opinion.

Again, 1984.

I'm not a huge fan of any of these "pundits", but Olbermann flat out said he was about to give personal commentary about the situation before he did. They're both the television equivalent of ed-op columnists.

jag
 
No, it's not funny, Olberman makes himself out to be a News Anchor, O'Reilly makes himself out to be a Commentator. There is a difference. One tells you the "truth" the other tells you his opinion. Once we lose News and all we have is opinion, in diguise as the truth, we've lost Freedom to make our own opinion.

Again, 1984.

It is funny because while Olberman portends 'providing the truth', he incorrectly uses a term like Fascist to describe Bush. Bush is many things, but I wouldn't call him a participant in:

A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.

Similarities? Yes. But those exist under any President, truth be told, and it has more to do with how our system of government has been man-handled and egregiously manipulated over the last 70 or 80 years.
 
Olberman is an *******.

Its funny how the very people that bash O'Reilly - whose style is far less biased, aggressive and immature than Olberman - are the very ones that salute Keith. :up:
But now that you've called him a censored name aren't you worse than both of them?

To say that O'Reilly (or his style) is less biased or aggressive or immature than Olbermann is well, wrong. To say that they're the same is acceptable and something I wouldn't debate, but that ain't what ya said.

Also, fascism isn't necessarily a dictatorship, but Bush did say this:
"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator." &#8212;Washington, D.C., Dec. 19, 2000
 
But now that you've called him a censored name aren't you worse than both of them?

To say that O'Reilly (or his style) is less biased or aggressive or immature than Olbermann is well, wrong. To say that they're the same is acceptable and something I wouldn't debate, but that ain't what ya said.

I think, to a certain extent, both O'Reilly and Olberman are *******s. They are pretentious, egotistical, arrogant pricks. Thats not an insult as much as it is a statement of facts.

I say O'Reilly is less bias only because he does not appear to be as one sided, politically. O'Reilly has called out the GOP and the DNC, bashed Bush and bashed Bush's opposition.

O'Reilly also doesn't go around naming people "The WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD!" for things he simply doesn't like. I find that a rather immature segment by Olbermann, especially sense he regularly uses it to bash his competition - rather than child molesters, rapists and murderers. I also watched an episode of Countdown where Olbermann gleefully bragged to O'Reilly that the previous night his rerun got higher ratings than O'Reilly's. Thats...well...immature.

Thats the difference I see between the two. I find that they are both, to an extent, the same - but Olbermann, at times, goes even further than O'Reilly.
 

actually:

[SIZE=-1]A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition ...
www.mrlambersky.com/terms.html[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]A social and political ideology with the primary guiding principle that the state or nation is the highest priority, rather than personal or individual freedoms.
www.chgs.umn.edu/Educational_Resources/Curriculum/Witness_And_Legacy_-_Teacher_R/Glossary__Teacher_Resource_Boo/glossary__teacher_resource_boo.html[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]A system of government that promotes extreme nationalism, repression, anticommunism, and is ruled by a dictator.
regentsprep.org/regents/global/vocab/topic_alpha.cfm[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Political philosophy that became predominant in Italy and then Germany during the 1920s and 1930s; attacked weakness of democracy, corruption of capitalism; promised vigorous foreign and military programs; undertook state control of economy to reduce social friction. (p. 870)
occawlonline.pearsoned.com/bookbind/pubbooks/stearns_awl/medialib/glossary/gloss_F.html[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]An ideology that combines dictatorial government, militarism, control of the personal freedom, extreme nationalism, and government control of business. ...
www.personal.psu.edu/faculty/a/c/ach13/Asia/Glossary.htm[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]is a political ideology and mass movement that seeks to place the nation, defined in exclusive biological, cultural, and historical terms, above all other loyalties, and to create a mobilized national community. ...
nicksomniblog.com/definitions/[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]a political system in which all power of government is vested in a person or group with no other power to balance and limit the activities of the government. Fascist governments are often closely associated with large corporations and sometimes with extreme nationalism and racist activities. ...
naiadonline.ca/book/01Glossary.htm[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]a political theory advocating an authoritarian hierarchical government (as opposed to democracy or liberalism)
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Fascism is an authoritarian political ideology that holds the state above all else and seeks to forge a type of national unity, usually based on ethnic, cultural, or racial attributes. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism[/SIZE]
 
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