Can Men be Trusted? With your Woman.

[chaseter]

Go back to my ORIGINAL statement on this.

We keep trusting...even though statistics say we should not...because we as humans have an emotional need to connect. It is not a smart idea for the survival of the species...but we do it because we are human.

I just think that some things have happened to you that have made you extremely bitter and you now have psychological trust issues with people. I mean look at your username...Heretic. Why did you choose that?

If you know as you say by statistics that we should not trust one another but we will keep doing so...then what is the point? That is like me going to rehab for drinking but saying to myself that I am still going to drink no matter what

 

[Ace of Knaves]

In that case...I apologize.

Again I repeat...

I have been accused of being a Nazi...an abusive boyfriend...and a fraud that has been robbing people of their money for the past several years.

I aplogize if being accused of those things makes me a little angry.

WTF!?!?!

If that's the case, then I think it is you your friends should be worrying about. Why would be just be randomly accused of those things without anything alluding to them?

 

[Matt Murdock]

men can be trusted. Friends do not betray friends. Shadowboxing has proven all books on the subject wrong based solely on his opinion.

You really just quoted my post to launch an attack on A) another poster and B) my view on the subject?

Interesting.

 

[Heretic]

WTF!?!?!

If that's the case, then I think it is you your friends should be worrying about. Why would be just be randomly accused of those things without anything alluding to them?

Why should my friends be worried about me just because Shadowboxing and others accused me of things without any basis in reality or knowledge of my life?

Oh yeah! You were trying to make casual readers think that Ive been accused of those things in real life, not in this thread!

 

[chaseter]

I think you need a good *** whooping boy to quote Roy D. Mercer.

 

[Erzengel]

Um ahem, apology?

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Why should my friends be worried about me just because Shadowboxing and others accused me of things without any basis in reality or knowledge of my life?

Oh yeah! You were trying to make casual readers think that Ive been accused of those things in real life, not in this thread!

Ay? No I actually thought that is what you were saying. I stand corrected.

 

[Eggyman]

Why should my friends be worried about me just because Shadowboxing and others accused me of things without any basis in reality or knowledge of my life?

Oh yeah! You were trying to make casual readers think that Ive been accused of those things in real life, not in this thread!

Ace is a good guy. *Benefit of the doubt* Maybe he just misunderstood what you were saying seeing as in the post he quoted you didn't specify exactly who had accused you of such things.

 

[Heretic]

I just think that some things have happened to you that have made you extremely bitter and you now have psychological trust issues with people. I mean look at your username...Heretic. Why did you choose that?

If you know as you say by statistics that we should not trust one another but we will keep doing so...then what is the point? That is like me going to rehab for drinking but saying to myself that I am still going to drink no matter what

My name is Heretic because when i created this account I had just gotten done talking with a friend of mine whos a Slipknot roadie. I had intentionally ignore Slipknot because I thought they were like Korn, Drowning pool, etc. he gave me some cds, and The Heretic Song was playing when I created my account. I would like to change my name to something comic booky, but not sure if Id be allowed to do so. My life has been surprisingly anti-dramatic actually.

In the end...there is no point to trust...I mean...we all die so technically there is no point to anything...BUT...we trust because we have that internal need for friends, love etc. It doesnt matter how many times we see people getting cheated on...we want to believe that our relationship wont end that way...its just our nature.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Ace is a good guy. *Benefit of the doubt* Maybe he just misunderstood what you were saying seeing as in the post he quoted you didn't specify exactly who had accused you of such things.

Thanks for the back up

Yea, he didn't make it very clear did he?

 

[chaseter]

My name is Heretic because when i created this account I had just gotten done talking with a friend of mine whos a Slipknot roadie. I had intentionally ignore Slipknot because I thought they were like Korn, Drowning pool, etc. he gave me some cds, and The Heretic Song was playing when I created my account. I would like to change my name to something comic booky, but not sure if Id be allowed to do so. My life has been surprisingly anti-dramatic actually.

In the end...there is no point to trust...I mean...we all die so technically there is no point to anything...BUT...we trust because we have that internal need for friends, love etc. It doesnt matter how many times we see people getting cheated on...we want to believe that our relationship wont end that way...its just our nature.

But you also admit we feel the need to betray. Why would we as a species feel the need to betray/lie purposely but then also feel the need to not believe it is happening to us. What perpetuates that cycle? What is the point behind it is what I am trying to figure out?

I agree that we need the ability to trust and love to keep us happy. But I think you are coming from a place of doubt when stating that we as humans feel the need to betray others purposely.

 

[Heretic]

Thanks for the back up

Yea, he didn't make it very clear did he?

It already is clear in the context of this thread, but i apologize.

I will point out that at no point has anyone called for an apology from those who have accused me of being a girlfriend abauser, a fraud whos been stealing peoples money for years, or a neo-nazi type. I find it odd that my comments warrant apologies but those very severe accusations require nothing.

 

[Eggyman]

Thanks for the back up

Yea, he didn't make it very clear did he?

No problem.

Yeah, but let's lead by example, eh? Show a lil understanding? He's been virtually a one man army for the last couple of days in this thread - right or wrong. So he's probably a lil defensive.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea I also apologize Heretic. I didn't mean to randomly diss you, it's just when someone says that it sorta gives the wrong impression you know?

 

[Eggyman]

It already is clear in the context of this thread, but i apologize.

I will point out that at no point has anyone called for an apology from those who have accused me of being a girlfriend abauser, a fraud whos been stealing peoples money for years, or a neo-nazi type. I find it odd that my comments warrant apologies but those very severe accusations require nothing.

You want people to ask for apologies for you?

That's your business, man. If you want an apology, seek one yourself.

 

[Matt Murdock]

Eggyman!

 

[Heretic]

But you also admit we feel the need to betray. Why would we as a species feel the need to betray/lie purposely but then also feel the need to not believe it is happening to us. What perpetuates that cycle? What is the point behind it is what I am trying to figure out?

I agree that we need the ability to trust and love to keep us happy. But I think you are coming from a place of doubt when stating that we as humans feel the need to betray others purposely.

You know...Im not sure. Im not an expert in the field of course.

But yeah...my guess is that we have a primal selfishness that would cause us to betray our friends and loved ones. Why did Hugh Grant cheat on his uber-sexy girlfriend with an ugly prostitute? I dont know. Why do people stab their best friends in the back to get a step ahead in life? Im not sure.

Now, the question is is it our nature to be selfish or are the selfish tendencies against our nature? Im not a religious guy by any means, but religious types would probably argue that we are born sinners and we have to resist that to live decent lives.

Maybe our need for love and trust is a part of our natural selfishness?

I dont have the answers to these questions...all I know is what the statistics show. It does no good to simply call the statistics false though.

 

[Eggyman]

Eggyman!

Parker!

 

[chaseter]

Parker!

According to the great Bruce Cambell...it is Pecker

 

[SsM]

Boy has this thread gotten off topic. >_<

 

[Heretic]

You want people to ask for apologies for you?

That's your business, man. If you want an apology, seek one yourself.

Nope. I dont need apologies. I am fine with the fact that people have outright slandered me in this thread.

However, werent you one of the ones who posted

"apology?"

You naturally...without prompting asked me to apologize to him for a small slight...yet it does not occur to you to ask someone to apologize for publicly calling me a fraud that rips people off.

In the end it doesnt really matter, I suppose...as long as people recognize that i am NOT stealing their money.

 

[Eggyman]

According to the great Bruce Cambell...it is Pecker

ArrRR, I lyke yeEw *fingerguns*

 

[Ace of Knaves]

According to the great Bruce Cambell...it is Pecker

Bon soi? L'evec un reservation'?

 

[chaseter]

How could you steal someone's money on here?

 

[uchiha_itachi]

ive got a stupid thing where i think if i introduce a girl i like or woteva to a friend, they will just start talking and ill be moved aside cos she likes him better or somthing lol