well from what we know as told by us in episodes. its about embracing himself fully as a kryptonian which according to what we have been told will allow any kryptonians to have access to all their powers on earth. As we know clark is still struggling on fully embracing himself as a kryptonian and his human identity.
When it was done in the beginning as part of the "No flights, no tights" policy, I totally agreed with it, as I think it's better for the storytelling. Now, had they been consistent with it, I would still buy it, as it's a natural progression of his powers, and flight would be his final embrace into becoming Superman. But around the time they allowed Kara to start flying, they totally blew it.
At the end of the day, it's not a matter of "Buying it" M.O.Steel, which sorta implies that you don't "believe it" even though they gave you a flat out answer in Saviour. You don't like the answer? fine, but by all means, pls do "Buy It", because that is Smallville's canon now. Only someone who embrasses their Kryptonian heritage is privelidged to gain the power of flight. With that rule, it makes sense why others can fly & he can't. Do I like the rule? no, not at all, but I definitley "Buy It" because it's not my theory, it's a fact, a fact given by the producers & writers of Smallville. I wish people would stop questioning something that Smallville has made clear. Do you have the right to complain about it?, yes & by all means pls do, but don't say, "I don't BUY IT", because this rule they have created is a fact. I don't like it, and I'll never get over it, but I accept it.
accept it all you want,,, it is still the most craptacular explanation of all time.
I think one of the biggest failures of the writers was to define his powers as magical gifts, rather than facts of biology. They should be powers he can never be rid of... and not powers that he can turn on and off at will, save for flight and heat vision. Otherwise all his powers should be on all the time. They should be a curse and a priviledge.
but the way they are defined, it gives the writers leeway (way too much I would argue). It allows villains to sneak up on clark all the time(doomsday somehow), or escape him, somehow(like every villain on the show slips away from Clark in a nick of time, how is this possible with someone who has xray/telescopic vision/super hearing?). Basically, it takes all the challange out of writing a superman story (but is this not what they are paid to do?).
I'm with Steve on this one. I don't like the reason, but I accept it because it's the writers continuity.
I have a theory that Souders and Petersen have had their minds made up for years about what they would do with the show if they had the chance to take over, which they obviously have. Think about how far we've come in a season a half. Hell, I think Clark would have been where he is now by the middle of season six had they been in charge then. Pretty much what I'm getting at is this: they've pretty much, and I hate this word now, rebooted Smallville. They've finally turned things around and ridden it of the awful the Gough/Miller stink. And for that, I will continue to be patient and wait for flight.
I actually like the idea that he switch his powers on and off. He's learned to control it. He just has to focus to turn it back on. If all of his powers were working 24/7, then where's the challenge? He would become way too powerful and the show wouldn't be fun anymore (not to mention expensive!).
At the end of the day, it's not a matter of "Buying it" M.O.Steel, which sorta implies that you don't "believe it" even though they gave you a flat out answer in Saviour. You don't like the answer? fine, but by all means, pls do "Buy It", because that is Smallville's canon now. Only someone who embrasses their Kryptonian heritage is privelidged to gain the power of flight. With that rule, it makes sense why others can fly & he can't. Do I like the rule? no, not at all, but I definitley "Buy It" because it's not my theory, it's a fact, a fact given by the producers & writers of Smallville. I wish people would stop questioning something that Smallville has made clear. Do you have the right to complain about it?, yes & by all means pls do, but don't say, "I don't BUY IT", because this rule they have created is a fact. I don't like it, and I'll never get over it, but I accept it.
1. valid arguements, but i can't agree with this. you can more than disagree with a choice a writer makes. i agree that if its mentioned it is canon, because what you are saying is that it is fact. remember, i'm not arguing whether it is true or not (because it is fact), its more like i'm opposing the choice the made (interpretation of fact)
2. in the last season finale, he said that he shed his entire human side because it was boone, not doomsday that killed jimmy. so, he completely embraced his krytonian side in the last season finale. so but that arguement, he should be able to fly.
3. they have him leaping really really high, essentially flying (we are talking about being able to reach the top of DP. so i don't get it.
4. i don't think it was ever really acknowledged why h can't fly. like literally why he can't.
I actually like the idea that he switch his powers on and off. He's learned to control it. He just has to focus to turn it back on. If all of his powers were working 24/7, then where's the challenge? He would become way too powerful and the show wouldn't be fun anymore (not to mention expensive!).
another thing we have to see too if they did have clark flying for real, people would expect to see it in every episode from there on out. Which i doubt we would see. Plus from what we have heard over the years it is the more expensive effect to pull off. But yea i too agree its a stupid dam reason. But thats the reason for the show.
2. in the last season finale, he said that he shed his entire human side because it was boone, not doomsday that killed jimmy. so, he completely embraced his krytonian side in the last season finale. so but that arguement, he should be able to fly.
Not true. He said he Clark Kent no longer existed, meaning he was doing away with the notion of a dual identity, and was instead focusing on being the "Blur" (Superman) all of the time. He felt that being Clark Kent compromised his judgement because it made him try too hard to be human. Yes he did his best to embrace his human side, but during a conversation with Jor-El in the Fortress, it is revealed that Clark did not fully relinquish his attachment to his own humanity. He is still bonded to Lois and thus failed to truly embrace his Kryptonian side.
Clark later decides that he can not properly defend humanity, if he does not live amongst them. Essentially, in order to value life, he must live life. So the reasoning of the writers is pretty solid at this point, unlike other minor flubs that have cropped up in the past.
The difference between Clark, Kara and Zod, is that Clark was raised on Earth, by humans. He was raised to think of himself as human. Zod and Kara were raised on Krypton and think of themselves as nothing but Kryptonians. They were also fully aware of the powers they would have under the yellow sun. Clark grew into his powers, mostly through serendipitous situations. Remember when Clark wasn't fully invulnerable and he simply developed bruises from bullet fire?
Stop thinking DCU when you try to evaluate this show. While the yellow sun is a factor, as is proximity to it
e.g. when Martian Manhunter used it to repower and heal Clark
, this is not a universe where prolonged exposure means greater absorption and more powerful powers. Clark clearly has a reasonable cap in this universe. Once the power fully develops, that is it. It doesn't matter about long term or short term exposure. Zod and Kara's powers have zip to do with long term exposure. It is all about being exposed to yellow sun or not. Period.
I can understand the fanboy driven urge to see this series retell the canon of the comic books, but what would be the point? You already have the comics, or have read them or read these stories. Getting upset at Smallville for not following the comics to the letter, would be like Marvel fans getting mad at Ultimate Spider-Man for not following 616 continuity (which the series didn't do on any occasion, including the origin of Peter's powers, all the way to the reimagining of stalwart rogues).
Relax yourself and this show can actually become quite entertaining. But if you continue to allow it to bother you over such inconsequential things, then you will essentially not see the forest for the trees.
Logically, we know they are avoiding flights for various reasons
-The old "no tights, no flights" rule (since abandoned given the number of costumed heroes/vigilantes and the number of flying characters, including Clark himself, while under the influence of Kryptonite).
- The high cost of the effect
-The likely shrunken budget for this show.
Come on now. It is amazing that after 9 straight seasons, that this show has maintained considerable and consistent quality. With less than 3 million viewers this season, it is an absolute wonder that we are still getting the kind of effects that we are. I'd rather have stable quality than have them blow budget on flights. As long as they have a solid plot reason behind that, I can easily ignore the logistics that really rob of a constantly flying Clark.
Also, whoever said we wouldn't need to see him flying...I have to stop you right there. This isn't the 50s. We aren't watching George Reeves jump fly out of a window, and a few brief seconds of him suspended on wire. It would really make the show campy if we saw that all the time. I was already bothered by the Legion episode for pulling that card (though they used the descent rather than the ascent. The same effect was presented though. No full flight, just an on scene nod to it).
yea its to bad they dont have the budget they used to have say back in seasons 1-4 at the height of its good season costs. But i agree i am fine with how things are right now and i think even with its slashed budget they are still pulling off some good stuff. Sure i want him to fly as much as the next guy. But they have their reasons and i understand it myself.
would be nice but we got to look at the network as a hole and how many shows they are having for fall/mid season periods and how much money is given to each show and all that. Like for example the girlie drama shows cost alot less then smallville or supernatural. I would definately love if the cw gave the show more money to work with. or at least WB TV shell out some extra money for production costs.
That really is the problem. The CW/WB isn't really a high ranking network. Even well respected shows like Buffy the Vampire Slayer, only pulled an average of 6 million viewers (compared to House M.D., which averages around 14 million viewers or Bones, which averages 12.5 million viewers). In fact, at one point in time, Smallville was the highest rated WB show. With 8.1 million viewers for the season 1 premiere, it remains the highest rated show in WB history. While that number has dwindled to ~2.77 million this season (season 9), Smallville is still one of the CW's higher rated shows. Consider that 90210 was the highest rated CW specific show, with 4.77 million viewers for its premiere. That means Smallville is likely a top five performer for the network. While the numbers are hard to accept in general (shows like NCIS absolutely trounce Smallville in raw numbers), for the CW, Smallville is still a relative success.
yea that is the problem with the cw being a much smaller network compared to say abc/nbc/cbs and all that. But hey at least it still is preforming good for the network it is on.
1. MM, Kara, Zod all see themselves as either a Martian or a Kryptonian. The closer that Clark is to embracing that he isn't human the closer he is to flying. He's showing that he has some control on how he jumps, which leads to the flying. Its been shown in the comics such as UP UP AND AWAY that for an entire year Clark SUBCONSCIOUSLY repressed his powers. When they did come back it took a while before he could fly, he mostly leaped. So it has been done before in the comics. It's all a matter of how Clark see's himself. And Lois makes him feel human, it's only right that she's whats keeping him from taking to the skies as Jor-El said in Savior.
2. Look at 1.
3. Clark is never too powerful. He grows more powerful the longer he is under a yellow sun. He's a solar battery. That's why everyone says that he's like a god. No one, not even Superman knows how strong he is. Take this quote from Supergirl Power "You're about sixteen years old. By that time in my life, my powers were just coming to me. I lived here on earth all that time as humans do. Without the speed, the strength, the invulnerability. And the older I got the more powerful I got. The more CAREFUL I had to be. Because if I ever let go... ever truly forgot the things my parents taught me-- and I'm not talking about Jor-El and Lara-- I would have killed someone. You don't know you're limits, Kara. So you don't know how to hold them in check." Flight would just give him a new power, it wouldn't make him any more powerful, just more Kryptonian.
4. All of superman's villians push him to his limits. Not just Zod, or Brainiac, or Bizzaro, or Darkseid. They just happen to be his most powerful. Banshee affects him with her magic. Metallo with his Kryptonite. Parasite zaps his strength. Riot with his numbers. They can bring any of them on the show to show what Clark can do, not just the truly heavy hitters.
5. They're using all of the Superman comics to influence the show. The early years were based off of the silver age. Lately it seems that they're going off of the more recent stuff.
As much as I love Smallville I don't see another network having aired this show from it's first pilot. I think all these other networks would have laughed at the idea. The WB was a good network becuase, well there's the teenage market still watching Dawson's Creek who you could latch onto with the lana crap & because well WB release & own the Superman name. A network like NBC or CBS or whatever network you guys have over in america wouldn't have taken it seriously I don't think. maybe back in the L&C days they might have because thing's were different then but times are different now. Were in a much more serious, cynical world, where every show is a cop show or a medical show or both. maybe I'm wrong I dunno.
As much as I love Smallville I don't see another network having aired this show from it's first pilot. I think all these other networks would have laughed at the idea. The WB was a good network becuase, well there's the teenage market still watching Dawson's Creek who you could latch onto with the lana crap & because well WB release & own the Superman name. A network like NBC or CBS or whatever network you guys have over in america wouldn't have taken it seriously I don't think. maybe back in the L&C days they might have because thing's were different then but times are different now. Were in a much more serious, cynical world, where every show is a cop show or a medical show or both. maybe I'm wrong I dunno.
I could see Smallville being of interest to other network(infact Fox was in the running for the show). That being said I am guessing another newtork would have less patience with the show. It probably would have higher ratings then it did on WB but most likely kicked off air(or moved to Friday Night) around S3 or when the ratings dip below 8M(That is my inflated guess where the numbers would be around if it on Fox in S3)
1. MM, Kara, Zod all see themselves as either a Martian or a Kryptonian. The closer that Clark is to embracing that he isn't human the closer he is to flying. He's showing that he has some control on how he jumps, which leads to the flying. Its been shown in the comics such as UP UP AND AWAY that for an entire year Clark SUBCONSCIOUSLY repressed his powers. When they did come back it took a while before he could fly, he mostly leaped. So it has been done before in the comics. It's all a matter of how Clark see's himself. And Lois makes him feel human, it's only right that she's whats keeping him from taking to the skies as Jor-El said in Savior.
2. Look at 1.
3. Clark is never too powerful. He grows more powerful the longer he is under a yellow sun. He's a solar battery. That's why everyone says that he's like a god. No one, not even Superman knows how strong he is. Take this quote from Supergirl Power "You're about sixteen years old. By that time in my life, my powers were just coming to me. I lived here on earth all that time as humans do. Without the speed, the strength, the invulnerability. And the older I got the more powerful I got. The more CAREFUL I had to be. Because if I ever let go... ever truly forgot the things my parents taught me-- and I'm not talking about Jor-El and Lara-- I would have killed someone. You don't know you're limits, Kara. So you don't know how to hold them in check." Flight would just give him a new power, it wouldn't make him any more powerful, just more Kryptonian.
4. All of superman's villians push him to his limits. Not just Zod, or Brainiac, or Bizzaro, or Darkseid. They just happen to be his most powerful. Banshee affects him with her magic. Metallo with his Kryptonite. Parasite zaps his strength. Riot with his numbers. They can bring any of them on the show to show what Clark can do, not just the truly heavy hitters.
5. They're using all of the Superman comics to influence the show. The early years were based off of the silver age. Lately it seems that they're going off of the more recent stuff.
nicely said. we see influence from different comics like John Corben being a DP reporter from the silver age, Different colored Kryptonite everywhere from silver age, modern age stuff like Clark being a football player, etc. Smallville is no different superman origin than every other one. sure it implies he will be superman and his destiny But so did the silver age/bronze age superboy comics.
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