The Dark Knight Capes and Cowls - New Batsuit Discussion Thread

[Borat]

Wasn't BR a winter-time Batmovie?

Yep, lol. I wonder if B&R could be considered a winter-time Batmovie to since Mr.Freeze 'frowze da ceety!'

 

[SheldonLevene]

Wasn't BR a winter-time Batmovie?

Yeah, but it was clearly shot on a soundstage whereas Nolan's films are mostly shot on location. Hell idc if they add the winter after the fact in post or whatever. I just think it would look cooler and be a good excuse to cover that suit.

Keep this about the suit, I don't want to see anymore debate over how Saint or Regwec post, if you don't like their long essay style, then don't reply to them.

Yes sir.

 

[Nepenthes]

yeah they're annoying sometimes (actually alot of the time) but the guys who actually manage to express themselves in more than two sentneces are what make hype worth coming too. When i joined up here you'd never see pointless drivel filling up the pages like you do now, wasting our time and lowering the overall standard, you'd be embrassed to post such nonsense. so hooray for saint, regwec, guard, crook, keyser soze and the all other old bastards who keep this going in style.

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ha ha . what's up with the red and gold though? add too much colour to the suit it becomes a bit Power Ranger or um, Iron Man . needs a solid red breast too.

I'm surprised the word "brainiac" hasn't been thrown around at all during this little fued, I heard it all the time when I was in primary school.... Seriously though, I don't know about anyone else but I come on these boards to read other peoples opinions, not just two-line tittle-tattle between obsessive fanboys, so for that I thank posters like saint & regwec, for actually saying something, and if that takes an "essay", then so be it.

hey it's kenellard

 

[SheldonLevene]

“If any of you had to wear the first one then you would love this one as much as I do,” laughs Bale. “It’s all about speed. It’s about [Batman] needing to be faster than he was before.” But why does Bats require a faster outfit? According to Hemming, the story demanded the update.

I had seen this before, but stumbled upon it again. Some of you may find it a neat bit of info.

 

[BatmanFanatic]

No, that's just the vibe you get, because polysyllabic words make you feel inferior. That isn't Saint's fault.

Here's the thing; Saint is not posturing as an intellectual just by using varied syntax, and a dose of logic. If he spuriously name-dropped Wittgenstein in every other paragraph then yes, he would come across as a posturing charlatan. But he doesn't- he just gives reasoned discussion on the subject at hand.

why dont you two get a room?

Right, so after "stop using the big words!" comes "u 2 r gay LOLz!!".

You are in danger of achieving the kind of message board that you deserve.

You forgot "U eSSay post iz 2 long!!11 ZOMG."

If it's any consolation, I enjoy Saint putting dumb people in their place.

I don't see what the problem is...are some of you that illiterate that it hurts you to read Saint's or even Regwec's posts??

After reading through posts that are either nonsense or just repeats of something you've heard too many times to want to remember, it's actually a nice change to read some well thought out posts...and with points to them as well.

Not saying the rest of the posters don't have good posts...a lot of you do, I just don't see why people need to hate on others who don't like to use slang and like to use proper/correct English.

Some do not write the way you do so they assume you take an "extra" effort in writing. In reality its just your writing style, and every writing style varies

Saint isn't over-writing his posts because he knows how to use a semi-colon. Take some Adderall for your textual ADD or just ignore his posts. A fair amount of posters would rather read and respond with essays than see a bunch of "teh suit is gayzorz" messages. I don't see why anyone has to call him out because he organizes his thoughts and writing; it actually makes the posts EASIER to read.

I just had to say anyone who goes against Saint or Regwec deserves what they get and "IZ liKE A tOtAl 'tArD LoLZ!!!!!!!" Their posts are the stuff that siggys are made of ... and I for one am proud to see that at least the American public education system has not yet destroyed every brain in this country, and occasionally someone who knows how to use proper syntax, punctuation and spelling can be found online.

It's a marvel that some people actually think that because Saint and Regwec can use words with more than two syllabels they must be really "trying" to sound intelligent. Here is food for thought for you -- some people... wait for it... actually... ARE intelligent!

And now, back to your regularly scheduled bat-suit hatin'. t:

 

[BatmanFanatic]

“If any of you had to wear the first one then you would love this one as much as I do,” laughs Bale. “It’s all about speed. It’s about [Batman] needing to be faster than he was before.” But why does Bats require a faster outfit? According to Hemming, the story demanded the update.

I had seen this before, but stumbled upon it again. Some of you may find it a neat bit of info.

I'm not sure how this suit makes him faster... or perhaps more accurately, I'm not sure how getting rid of the ridiculous leg wedge pieces would slow him down. There are too many elements on the new suit that serve no purpose and look awful.

Might I please direct everyones attention to the leg-wedge piece bellow his belt, right over the center of femur, where it meets the hip. Now is Batman going to be able to kick his leg straight up to do a front kick, with that piece of armor over the top of a joint?

Didn't have that problem with black on black trunks.

 

[nickyg641]

Back to the subject of the suit, I think I can put my finger on what I don't like. It all comes down to this for me, really: In the new suit, I just don't see the majestic, operatic, and statuesque qualities that can be seen in classic Batman iconography. I remember Nolan mentioning that he was going for something like that in BB, but I feel that this is completely lost in the new costume.

Instead, we get a more clunky, techy, "functional" suit.

 

[Saint]

I just had to say anyone who goes against Saint or Regwec deserves what they get and "IZ liKE A tOtAl 'tArD LoLZ!!!!!!!" Their posts are the stuff that siggys are made of ... and I for one am proud to see that at least the American public education system has not yet destroyed every brain in this country

Canadian education system, actually. Regwec isn't American either, as I recall.

 

[Eggyman]

Yeh, Reg is a Brit I think.

I can't believe that well-written posts are being questioned. They're the only thing that's been keeping this thread in some kind of order.

 

[cjblair]

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Why?

 

[Eggyman]

Two wrongs don't make a right

 

[Sandouras]

What does this mean?

Ask Saint for his Batman paintings. You ll see.

Explain how it is more awkward than the Begins/TDK belt. As I already explained, the size of the compartments is going to be dictated by the size of the gear he is carrying. This means the compartments will be just as big and awkward or just as small and unobtrusive regardless of which belt he's wearing, and regardless of whether the pouches are metal or fabric. If anything, the the police-style belt will be less awkward, by virtue of the waist strap not being metal.

Well, i'd rather have a small, techy, modern, beautiful belt that can fit cars in it, rather than a huge plummer belt with huge pouches. At least make the pouches more modern. Maybe out of something else rather than leather. Make the belt out of metal like in BTAS or something.

In any case, i dont see why Nolan's is inferior to the one in the comics. Its better looking and it actually works. But yeah, its not in teh comiksorz!

 

[Mandalore464]

Visually, both styles of belts would work for me. As far as I'm concerned, the issue is more with the colour of the belt than with the material. I think the golden belt from BB and TDK stands out a little too much. It is acceptable (and after all, faithful to most comics) but a dirty yellow belt would be better, or ideally, a grey or black one.

Now when you think about it, Batman's belt is very often the target of his enemies. They know almost all his gadgetry is hidden in its pouches, so they often go for the belt to incapacitate him in some way. This is especially true in BTAS. That's why I think a metal belt is more suitable to Batman. If it was just a regular belt, and let's say the Joker managed to knock the bat out for a few seconds, he'd have plenty of time to unfasten it from his waist and throw it aside, thus preventing him from using any Batarang and co.

But with the BB belt, if you only had 15 seconds to remove it and you weren't familiar with its design, your first reaction would be "How the hell do you take that off???" and you'd probably spend a lot of time trying to tamper with the front buckle before you realize the actual buckle is in Batman's back.

Now I realize that this is a very specific example based on a very hypothetical situation and in the Nolan verse, most enemies would probably go for the kill anyway instead of trying to disarm him and tie him up in some fancy trap. But in any case, a metal belt would protect the gadgetry of Batman far better than a fabric-pouches one would. With the latter, you'd run the risk of ripping open one of the pouches during a fight and lose one of the items or get the belt stuck in a barb wire fence or the likes, thus slowing you down and again risking the loss of one of the gadgets.

Those risks are avoided with a metal belt.

Visually I'd probably go for a fabric belt such as the one in Hush, cause I'm very fond of Jim Lee's Batman design. But as far as practicality is concerned, I'd go for metal. A dark grey metal belt.

 

[RKO]

This suit in a sort of way looks like it has no skin, like that's what the batsuit would look like under all the rubber, with all the cuts and edges.


I still love it though.

 

[HUMANIMAL]

the bat eskimo....its getting cold....real cold

 

[RKO]

^ROFL Chiiiill[/Mr. freeze]
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[inflames]

yeah they're annoying sometimes (actually alot of the time) but the guys who actually manage to express themselves in more than two sentneces are what make hype worth coming too. When i joined up here you'd never see pointless drivel filling up the pages like you do now, wasting our time and lowering the overall standard, you'd be embrassed to post such nonsense. so hooray for saint, regwec, guard, crook, keyser soze and the all other old bastards who keep this going in style.



ha ha . what's up with the red and gold though? add too much colour to the suit it becomes a bit Power Ranger or um, Iron Man . needs a solid red breast too.




hey it's kenellard

Nice to know you think I lower the standards.

 

[TNC9852002]

FTW

-TNC

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

Keep this about the suit, I don't want to see anymore debate over how Saint or Regwec post, if you don't like their long essay style, then don't reply to them.

thank you oh mighty one and no Im not being sarchastic either, the only discussion needed in this thread is about the bat-suit, thats it.

 

[Sandouras]

Visually, both styles of belts would work for me. As far as I'm concerned, the issue is more with the colour of the belt than with the material. I think the golden belt from BB and TDK stands out a little too much. It is acceptable (and after all, faithful to most comics) but a dirty yellow belt would be better, or ideally, a grey or black one.

Now when you think about it, Batman's belt is very often the target of his enemies. They know almost all his gadgetry is hidden in its pouches, so they often go for the belt to incapacitate him in some way. This is especially true in BTAS. That's why I think a metal belt is more suitable to Batman. If it was just a regular belt, and let's say the Joker managed to knock the bat out for a few seconds, he'd have plenty of time to unfasten it from his waist and throw it aside, thus preventing him from using any Batarang and co.

But with the BB belt, if you only had 15 seconds to remove it and you weren't familiar with its design, your first reaction would be "How the hell do you take that off???" and you'd probably spend a lot of time trying to tamper with the front buckle before you realize the actual buckle is in Batman's back.

Now I realize that this is a very specific example based on a very hypothetical situation and in the Nolan verse, most enemies would probably go for the kill anyway instead of trying to disarm him and tie him up in some fancy trap. But in any case, a metal belt would protect the gadgetry of Batman far better than a fabric-pouches one would. With the latter, you'd run the risk of ripping open one of the pouches during a fight and lose one of the items or get the belt stuck in a barb wire fence or the likes, thus slowing you down and again risking the loss of one of the gadgets.

Those risks are avoided with a metal belt.

Visually I'd probably go for a fabric belt such as the one in Hush, cause I'm very fond of Jim Lee's Batman design. But as far as practicality is concerned, I'd go for metal. A dark grey metal belt.

I like the way you think and the way you analysed this subject. On the other hand, i just feel that a black belt would make batman too dark. Just look at batman in BF and B&R. Its unnoticeable. I mean, he is still a superhero. We dont need to get carried away with practicality and realism or we would end up closing the mouth opening with a gas mask (joker and scarecrow both use gases. What the hell are you thinking bruce?).
Batman is still a superhero and IMHO his design needs to evolve to go with the times. I mean, we got rid of the yellow emblem because it was kind of cheesy and took away the aspect of intimidation. That should happen to the belt as well. It should be more modern and even a bit unrealistic. Did you guys take a ruler and measure his batarangs to see if they fit the belt in B89 or BTAS? But on the other hand we dont need to erase this emblem as well. We dont need to give him fur and fangs to make him a real bat-man.
I say we should keep the yellow belt.

 

[Zohan Dvir]

I dunno after looking at that manip I'm glad there won't be a Robin, especially an Emo looking one when Nolan's at the helm.

 

[nameless_hero]

Just having fun, not that I EVER want to see Robin in a Nolan Batman movie... "he's in a crib somewhere" - Chris Nolan

yeah, I agree. No Robin. I was just bored and wanted to see what I could come up with.

 

[Mandalore464]

I like the way you think and the way you analysed this subject. On the other hand, i just feel that a black belt would make batman too dark. Just look at batman in BF and B&R. Its unnoticeable. I mean, he is still a superhero. We dont need to get carried away with practicality and realism or we would end up closing the mouth opening with a gas mask (joker and scarecrow both use gases. What the hell are you thinking bruce?).
Batman is still a superhero and IMHO his design needs to evolve to go with the times. I mean, we got rid of the yellow emblem because it was kind of cheesy and took away the aspect of intimidation. That should happen to the belt as well. It should be more modern and even a bit unrealistic. Did you guys take a ruler and measure his batarangs to see if they fit the belt in B89 or BTAS? But on the other hand we dont need to erase this emblem as well. We dont need to give him fur and fangs to make him a real bat-man.
I say we should keep the yellow belt.

You say the truth when you write that if we wanted to go for realism all the way, there wouldn't even be a mouth opening (reveals features that might get recognized), and he would be all black with (probably) fur and fangs to scare the hell out of the criminals.

So yes, Batman needs to stay what he is : a superhero. No need to go for a complete bat-like appearance, no need to conceal all his features, no need to sacrifice all aesthetism for practicality.

What I was saying when I commented on the colour of the belt is that I am not fond of the gold-over-black look. I am not saying it should be all black because Batman needs to be all black, and as I said, a brownish yellow or a dark shade of grey would be good enough for me.

It's just the yellow I don't like. I mean in BTAS it was alright cause they had all those specific shades of grey, black and yellow that looked good together. But in the movies we often have a 100 percent black costume save for the yellow oval and belt and in that case it looks kind of weird to me, especially now that they got rid of the oval (and I thank them for that). Plus the yellow is one of these colours that make Batsy a little more visible in the dark.

That's all I was saying

 

[nameless_hero]

The more I look at this suit the more I like it. Just something about it, more advanced and meaner looking than the Begins suit.

He might as well just be Nightwing, if he's going to be that old.

Just for you Bunk

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

The more I look at this suit the more I like it. Just something about it, more advanced and meaner looking than the Begins suit.

Just for you Bunk

I actually like that suit on Robin/Nightwing alot, I think that could work for his suit better than it does for bats.