First Avenger Captain America: News and Speculation V

[Spider-Vader]

The news that Cap's pacing/tone will be similar to Raiders made me extremely happy. I've always felt that Indy would be a good franchise to base a Cap movie off of.

 

[Shazam]

The first clip is essentially how the movie opens with two military men meeting someone out in the colds of the Arctic and being led to an enormous egg-like object protruding out from the snow; the camera pulls away to show that it's been found in a fairly remote area with nothing around. We don't want to say too much about this opening scene except that Captain America won't be encased in an iceberg like he was in the comics, as they're going for a more realistic approach to how he gets from the WWII era to today. We will say that the scene ends with the men finding Cap's trademark shield covered in ice.

OKAY....CAP IS NOT FOUND FROZEN IN ICE??? BECAUSE THEY WANT A MORE REALISTIC APPROACH??

I HAVE BEEN WAITING TO YEARS TO SEE THAT SCENE DEPICTED ON THE BIG SCREEN AND THEY ARE GONNA DENY US THIS??

NEWS FLASH!!! NONE OF THIS IS "REAL"!!! THAT'S THE POINT!!!!!

I'm sure I must be the only one bothered by this.....

 

[Wolvieboy17]

I'm sure I must be the only one bothered by this.....

Funny... I get the feeling you're right

 

[Shazam]

If they are going for "realism", let's forget a Norse god cast down to earth or a seven foot tall green monster or a spider passing on its abilities to a human from a bite.

We are suppose to stretch our imaginations here, right?? The back stories of these classic characters are far fetched already! Why keep screwing with them?? Why do these directors seem so ashamed of the source material that they do this kind of stuff?

 

[Chewy]

I think you've misunderstood the meaning of realism here.

 

[Shazam]

Funny... I get the feeling you're right

On these boards? I'm not surprised....

 

[Shazam]

I think you've misunderstood the meaning of realism here.

No...I think THEY have.....not me.

I get it.

But we are talking about "super heroes". We start there with the realm of the fantastic! I want to see that! Realism?? When someone gets cut, they bleed. Explosions on the battlefield. Planes fly....it's WWII....there's enuff of that in the movie to not have to screw with the Serum and the Suspended Animation in the ice berg. That's all I'm sayin'....geez.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

It's political correctness gone mad. Quick Shazam, you write the angry letters, I'll start calling up all the AM radio stations!

 

[Spider-Vader]

I'm pretty sure they meant he won't be frozen in a huge ice block. It'd like he was a caveman in a cartoon if that happened.

 

[Chewy]

It's you against the world. They've desecrated the character by doing something, not that you have any idea what it is they've done, since you haven't seen the movie.

 

[Shazam]

I'm pretty sure they meant he won't be frozen in a huge ice block. It'd like he was a caveman in a cartoon if that happened.

No it wouldn't.

It would be the story that has been told now by Stan Lee and Kirby for almost 50 years now. Nothing was wrong with that. The effects of the serum are even more magnified in the original scenario, as well.

Oh...and this is based on a comic book (ie cartoon)

 

[Shazam]

It's you against the world. They've desecrated the character by doing something, not that you have any idea what it is they've done, since you haven't seen the movie.

Yeah...me against the world. t:

 

[Wolvieboy17]

Hey Shazam, go read and comic and cool down. It's called an 'adaptation'. This isn't a new concept. You want a 60's sensibility to your superheroes, go watch the Adam West Batman series.

 

[Suzanne78]

Maybe I'm missing a detail or something here, but just glancing over the SHH front page article about Cap's opening scene...

Spoiler

is it possible that Cap gets stuck in the cockpit of that massively large stealth jet bomber thingy that's in the trailer, the thing freezes him in suspended animation, and he's frozen in that rather than it just being the iceberg surrounding him? I'm thinking it could be a part of Zola's tech that Red Skull was going to use on himself and Cap doesn't realize it until after he wakes up in the 21st century...

So it's not a total bastardization of the origin. He's still in suspended animation, he still tries to sacrifice himself to save the rest of the world. Well, at least in my spec it is.

Of course I may have missed something already said about Cap getting frozen altogether.

 

[Brian Braddock]

Wow, talk about flying off the handle Shazam; you're acting like someones taking a big massive dump on the Cap mythos or something. EDIT: I've just recalled your hysteria over the 'Nazi' thing and the 'One Mission' issue, so I guess I shouldnt really be surprised about your reaction to this news either.

My advice would be to chill (no pun intended).

Anyways, I really anjoyed the read on the front page - sounds really positive.

 

[The Infernal]

It's political correctness gone mad. Quick Shazam, you write the angry letters, I'll start calling up all the AM radio stations!

Dear Marvel,


Nazis did it

 

[TikkiEXX]

um, i think we all knew they werent going with Cap being frozen in a block of ice. considering as far as i know its damn near physically impossible.

 

[captainrogers]

OKAY....CAP IS NOT FOUND FROZEN IN ICE??? BECAUSE THEY WANT A MORE REALISTIC APPROACH??

I HAVE BEEN WAITING TO YEARS TO SEE THAT SCENE DEPICTED ON THE BIG SCREEN AND THEY ARE GONNA DENY US THIS??

NEWS FLASH!!! NONE OF THIS IS "REAL"!!! THAT'S THE POINT!!!!!

I'm sure I must be the only one bothered by this.....

Ughhh. That Jai Lee art you posted, while beautiful, is from a storyline by chuck austen that truly attempted to basterdize caps origin..... so I find your rant psuedo ironic. And by realistic, I think the word more accurate to use in the case of the film is believability. Yes, have fantastic elements, but if you can tweak them to have a more believable slant, as long as its done right, im all for.

 

[samsnee]

I wish Ed Norton would make a cameo. There, I said it.

 

[JAK®]

I wish Ed Norton would make a cameo. There, I said it.

In Captain America?

EDIT: Oh right, the deleted TIH opening.

 

[Rock Sexton]

I wish Ed Norton would make a cameo. There, I said it.

Oh what could have been.

 

[ultimatefan]

I´m gonna wait and see how he´s recovered. The point of it is not the iceberg, that´s just the device Stan Lee used, the point is this hero who sees his sidekick "die" in mission, and then hybernates, is presumed dead and wakes up decades ahead in time.

I love the notion that the movie may mix the pace of Raiders, the retrofuturism of Rocketeer and the gritty realism of Saving Private Ryan.

 

[captainrogers]

No it wouldn't.

It would be the story that has been told now by Stan Lee and Kirby for almost 50 years now. Nothing was wrong with that. The effects of the serum are even more magnified in the original scenario, as well.

Oh...and this is based on a comic book (ie cartoon)

What did you think of the non-Gamma-Bomb generated Hulk? Just curious.

 

[Shazam]

um, i think we all knew they werent going with Cap being frozen in a block of ice. considering as far as i know its damn near physically impossible.

OF COURSE IT IS!! IT'S A COMIC BOOK!t:

So is changing into a 7 foot green giant or going super nova!! It's fantasy! so why change the frozen in ice scenario??

 

[wobbly]

Afaik he gets found in the frozen remains of that huge bomber we saw in the trailer, presumably buried and lost in the ice when it crashes.

All they have done is change his immediate surroundings: From a block of ice that formed around him to suspend his body before it could drown, to the plane he stopped.

He still gets frozen, he still stops the plane. No biggie at all.