Endgame Captain America/Steve Rogers - Chris Evans

[Kanon]

The opposite of "Mary Sue".

I guess some feel Cap shouldn't have been able to summon lightning with Mjolnir. Lift? Yes. Summon lightning? No.

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Well, the enchantment on the hammer is, that whosever holds it, if he be worthy, posses the power of Thor

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Cap didn't have time to get LAID. He was waiting for something/someone.

Cap had as much time as any other service member of the "greatest generation" during the war to get some. Unless you think all those other soldiers, marines and sailors, far from home and facing their deaths on a regular basis never had sex at all during WWII? Well... They did. It happened. I don't look at Cap any differently. The "dance" thing is about true love.

 

[CaptainWagner]

He was fighting around Europe for years in WWII, perhaps in other theaters as we'll. There is no doubt in my mind that the moment in TFA where he meets a young woman (No... not the Tyrell chick ) looking at him with hungry eyes(again, NOT the moment that Atwell interrupts the action) is supposed to indicate he has his moments of "fun" while possibly facing death on the front lines.

I didn't get that at all from those moments. Hooking up with random girls like that just doesn't fit with Steve's character, in my opinion.

ALSO, are there still people who don't think

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that Cap was capable of lifting the hammer in AOU? That he has somehow become "more worthy" since then? Cause that's what some of these comments sound like, but I thought Thor's line here made it very clear that Cap has ALWAYS been worthy and chose not to embarrass Thor in AOU.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I didn't get that at all from those moments. Hooking up with random girls like that just doesn't fit with Steve's character, in my opinion.

If you think I meant Cap had a girl I every town... No. THAT would be out of character. But it's not some indication of some grand flaw if over the course of the war there indeed were moments he indulged in a tryst or two with someone. It's certainly as an adult, to me, not some betrayal of his feelings for Peggy.

 

[KevTravels]

Cap had as much time as any other service member of the "greatest generation" during the war to get some. Unless you think all those other soldiers, marines and sailors, far from home and facing their deaths on a regular basis never had sex at all during WWII? Well... They did. It happened. I don't look at Cap any differently. The "dance" thing is about true love.

Some had sex indeed. In England or France or Germany. Some not consensual at all. Perhaps Rogers did, perhaps he didn't. It makes no difference if he did, but if they never stated he did, then its reasonable to assume he did not. Especially as there was a war on and he was focused on that. And then as Cap America (in the 21st century) he had bigger things on his plate.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Some had sex indeed. In England or France or Germany. Some not consensual at all. Perhaps Rogers did, perhaps he didn't. It makes no difference if he did, but if they never stated he did, then its reasonable to assume he did not. Especially as there was a war on and he was focused on that. And then as Cap America (in the 21st century) he had bigger things on his plate.

They never state the majority of characters in these films had sex. Are they all virgins too?

 

[-Arya-]

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Steve has become my favorite character in the MCU and I think this was the perfect send-off for him. The final scene got me really good, even more than Tony's death. He is rewarded with the life he never got to have. And then of course you have him wielding Mjolnir and "Avenger's assemble". It's everything you'd want for the character.

Also "Hail Hydra".

Yup all of this. It was literally everything I could’ve wanted for Cap.

 

[KevTravels]

They never state the majority of characters in these films had sex. Are they all virgins too?

Touche. But the others grew up in the modern day. We don't need to see them banging to know they are whereas from Cap's era and his general standard of morals...

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Touche. But the others grew up in the modern day. We don't need to see them banging to know they are whereas from Cap's era and his general standard of morals...

My grandmother was born in 1932. She was pregnant at 16 with my mom.

People had sex outside of marriage long before the 1960's. This isn't some impossible concept.

 

[nypinta]

Not that I think it really mattes, but I personally don't think Steve was hooking up with anyone in WWII, even if other soldiers were, because of his feelings for Peggy and the fact that unlike most soldiers sweethearts, girlfriends, and wives who were probably at home, Peggy was right there with him most of the time. Sure the Commandos would go off on missions but then they'd come back to camp, where Peggy was. Can anyone really imagine Steve taking time on a mission to get some when in just a few days he'd be seeing Peggy again? Come on.

And I think the movies made it pretty clear he wasn't going on dates, seeing as Nat kept trying to set him up and he kept deflecting. But since Winter Soldier, which was only two years after he got out of the ice, it's been at least another 12 for him, so I'm pretty sure he "made time" with someone. Just please oh please not Sharon because that's just too weird. And I think one of the Russo brothers made some comment that Steve and Nat were dating while on the run from Ross before Infinity War. Which is kind of a JK Rowling thing to do, but whatever.

I think Steve was true during the war, and maybe even up until Peggy died, because even if she was old, he was still emotionally just hers. But once she passed, I think he did move on. Up until the moment he saw her in 1970. If he hadn't, I don't think he would have done what he did.

 

[KevTravels]

My grandmother was born in 1932. She was pregnant at 16 with my mom.

People had sex outside of marriage long before the 1960's. This isn't some impossible concept.

I never said it was. Besides Cap was born in 1917. I get your point. Get mine.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I never said it was. Besides Cap was born in 1917. I get your point. Get mine.

If your point was that people at the time were less likely to engage in sex outside marriage and that's why Steve wouldn't... No. I don't think you have a point. As noted all the people that Steve fought alongside in WWII also born when he was? Many, many, MANY had sex with someone in course of their tours of duty. They were all products of the same culture as Steve.

Look... It's obvious to some it's just somehow sanctifying to think that Steve Rogers never got some. Point blank I think that's just silly. And I don't think it sullies him as a character that he would actually have sex outside of a "true love" scenario. And I don't think it's reasonable given that yeah, I think the moment I mentioned before in TFA indicated Steve became aware of his sexual desirability and took advantage of that at some point. Saying he didn't have time for sex, again... SEX, not a full blown romantic entanglement with marriage as the endgame, is obtuse and doesn't match the reality of the situation of the war. In the modern age... Yeah, I think he never did find the time to be with someone, but even then... I am betting he and Sharon gave into desire at some point during his time underground. Once more... This isn't some kind of negative mark on his character we're talking about. He's Capt. America, not a Catholic Priest.

 

[DKDetective]

My grandmother was born in 1932. She was pregnant at 16 with my mom.

People had sex outside of marriage long before the 1960's. This isn't some impossible concept.

Yeah, but as others have mentioned, Steve is not an ordinary soldier. He had a thing for Peggy from his basic training onward. He carried a torch for her throughout the war. You could see his romantic naivety when the girl caught him by surprise at the debriefing and how he assumed "fondue" was something more than cheese and bread. From then onwards, he and Peggy were together until he went into the ice. Now he may have done something post-Winter Soldier. As others have said, he probably tried to move on from Peggy then, but there is no way he touched another woman during WW2. It just wasn't in his character. He was conservative that way.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Yeah, but as others have mentioned, Steve is not an ordinary soldier. He had a thing for Peggy from his basic training onward. He carried a torch for her throughout the war. You could see his romantic naivety when the girl caught him by surprise at the debriefing and how he assumed "fondue" was something more than cheese and bread. From then onwards, he and Peggy were together until he went into the ice. Now he may have done something post-Winter Soldier. As others have said, he probably tried to move on from Peggy then, but there is no way he touched another woman during WW2. It just wasn't in his character. He was conservative that way.

He got some folks. I'm sorry this is beyond reason for some. If sexual experience is some how disqualifying in terms of personal morals or heroism... Well I think that's just a contrived and rather backwards view of things. This somehow doesn't make him some heartless lotharo on the make breaking hearts in every town. He can have had sex and get this, STILL BE IN LOVE WITH PEGGY.

 

[Webfoot Hero]

Going to miss Chris Evans as Cap. He became my favorite character after TFA came out and his subsequent MCU appearances never made that waver. It's going to take some time to get used to him not being at the forefront anymore.

 

[KevTravels]

If your point was that people at the time were less likely to engage in sex outside marriage and that's why Steve wouldn't... No. I don't think you have a point. As noted all the people that Steve fought alongside in WWII also born when he was? Many, many, MANY had sex with someone in course of their tours of duty. They were all products of the same culture as Steve.

Look... It's obvious to some it's just somehow sanctifying to think that Steve Rogers never got some. Point blank I think that's just silly. And I don't think it sullies him as a character that he would actually have sex outside of a "true love" scenario. And I don't think it's reasonable given that yeah, I think the moment I mentioned before in TFA indicated Steve became aware of his sexual desirability and took advantage of that at some point. Saying he didn't have time for sex, again... SEX, not a full blown romantic entanglement with marriage as the endgame, is obtuse and doesn't match the reality of the situation of the war. In the modern age... Yeah, I think he never did find the time to be with someone, but even then... I am betting he and Sharon gave into desire at some point during his time underground. Once more... This isn't some kind of negative mark on his character we're talking about. He's Capt. America, not a Catholic Priest.

From what we saw of Steve and got by his particular moral code, if he was not a virgin; we would have known it. He would have lost it with a "special girl" or with Peggy.

Maybe he did get laid a lot during WW2, but I don't believe the film conveyed that. He was a shy All-American boy who wanted to do his part in the war and help. He was all focus. I think that's a major part of his solace about Peggy. He never got to achieve a close connection to her.

 

[DKDetective]

He got some folks. I'm sorry this is beyond reason for some. If sexual experience is some how disqualifying in terms of personal morals or heroism... Well I think that's just a contrived and rather backwards view of things. This somehow doesn't make him some heartless lotharo on the make breaking hearts in every town. He can have had sex and get this, STILL BE IN LOVE WITH PEGGY.

No one is saying that it is disqualifying in terms of personal morals or heroism, we just don't think it is Steve. Deep down at heart, Steve will always be that scrawny kid from Brooklyn, who girls would never give a second look. He said it himself in The First Avenger that he was "waiting for the right partner". You can't get more explicit than that in a movie without being stupidly obvious.

You are the one who being single-minded in trying to force your idea of normal sexual experience onto everyone else. There are some people who do wait for that special someone. It doesn't make one choice right or the other wrong. But people have that choice and there is no uniformity in that regard.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

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[Bren]

Chris Evans was great as Cap, and Cap was great.

As much as I'm more a fan of Thor in the comics, in the MCU Cap has become my favourite character.
I'm very glad he got what HE wanted at the end. Don't care if time travel science was broken a little, I watch these films to see my heroes win.
He won, finally.

 

[Herolee10]

Honestly, I feel like the Russos achieved with Cap on what Zack Snyder was attempting to do with his version of Superman. Although the Russos only entered the game with TWS and did not direct the first two Avengers's films, I feel like Cap has always been at the center/heart of the latter films with his solo trilogy tying in real nicely with them as well.

Thus you could watch both Captain America's trilogy and the Avengers films as part of ONE EPIC franchise with Captain America at the center of it all.

 

[Enriquespy]

They never state the majority of characters in these films had sex. Are they all virgins too?

Complete list of Virgin Characters:

Nick Fury

Peter Parker

Steve Rogers

Sam Wilson

Hawkeye, somehow.

Dr Strange.

Groot

Antman too, Somehow.

 

[The Guard]

I thought that was a pretty fitting result. And where else were they going to go with the character based on what was set up?

So now that

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Cap has lived a little, what are the odds we will see CGI Chris Evans: Director of SHIELD? Or at least hear it hinted at? Would be a nice way to balance the character's duty angle, though I guess they sort of did that with his "one final mission".

And it would have been major fanservice, perhaps, but there should have been a credit sequence where we see

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Steve returning the Soul stone and his last encounter with The Red Skull.

 

[CB Fan]

I feel like we could be seeing some alternate timeline esque movies years from now based on how this ended. One being Cap reunited with Peggy and the Howling Commandos. Good luck to the actor playing Cap, it won’t be impossible but there are big shoes to fill.

 

[Asr]

Complete list of Virgin Characters:

Hawkeye, somehow.

The dude has a wife and kids, so he can't be a virgin.

 

[Enriquespy]

The dude has a wife and kids, so he can't be a virgin.

That's the joke.