Endgame Captain Marvel/Carol Danvers - Brie Larson

[I Am The Knight]

What else would you call someone who said that seeing Marvel's female heroes charging together into battle made him physically ill?

Also, let's not pretend that for much of their early years that Marvel wasn't ran by a disgusting misogynist who intentionally held back their female heroes. It's not like the actual creatives only just now decided to jump on a diversity bandwagon. Scenes like this are making up for the Perlmutter years in a big way. That one shot obliterated anything left of his legacy.

Well yeah that particular guy has issues

 

[Nvmyprixgt]

Then you should probably abandon ship on the MCU now. If celebrating diversity makes you ill, it's not going to be a fun ride for you

Nothing to do with diversity. Scarlet witch had some of the best scenes of the movie. Just was awkward and terrible. Doesn’t help that Captain Marvel is the worst

 

[roxas99]

I think at some point you've just got to wonder why every other female hero in the MCU has been well received, if not outright beloved, even ones from TV like Quake and Jessica Jones. Was everyone just saving their misogyny for Captain Marvel specifically?.

yes if you go by some of the horrible comments I was reading on the marvel Instagram page last year. It was some of the most sexist trash I have ever had the misfortune of reading and that was long before Captain marvel first trailer dropped

they don't care about some female character on a small tv show they care that a woman could be potentially leading amulti billion dollar franchise like the MCU

Quake and Jessica Jones are beloved but I willing the bet they would be a lot more unpopular if they were being set up to lead the MCU. You would be seeing way more attacks against them and the actress playing them. krysten ritter liberal and feminist views would be getting just much attention as brie Larson currently is. The sad truth is that there is a sizable portion of the comic book and scifi community who Hates the very idea of their favorite franchises being lead by a woman or a person of color.


This is why Black panther faced boycotts and hate in 2018 and it is why Captain marvel faced in in 2019

and make no mistake Marvels upcoming the the Eternals movie will face it since it stars their fist gay superhero

 

[Nvmyprixgt]

Then you should probably abandon ship on the MCU now. If celebrating diversity makes you ill, it's not going to be a fun ride for you

Nothing to do with diversity. Scarlet witch had some of the best scenes of the movie. Just was awkward and terrible. Doesn’t help that Captain Marvel is the worst

 

[Tony Stark]

If this was nothing more than a marketing ploy then it was a huge success as CM finished 2nd place with 8M and actually got a bump last weekend. It's total domestic gross now exceeds Wonder Woman.

FWIW my favorite scenes:

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destroying Thanos' ship
Her meeting Spider-man the first time
They playful banter with Rocket calling him "fur face"
Rocket asking if she's getting another haircut.

 

[roxas99]

Nothing to do with diversity. Scarlet witch had some of the best scenes of the movie. Just was awkward and terrible. Doesn’t help that Captain Marvel is the worst

It has everything to do with the diversity
Lets be real that is what this is all about


and if you don't believe me find a negative brie larson video on youtube and start reading some of the comments

 

[MbJ]

I highly doubt this happened.

It made me wanna throw up

Don't worry. I'm sure you had your Youtube essay ready to go.

 

[Nvmyprixgt]

It has everything to do with the diversity
Lets be real that is what this is all about


and if you don't believe me find a negative brie larson video on youtube and start reading some of the comments

I was talking about me. Yes Brie Larson sucks so that doesn’t help. It’s not about diversity, Altho she says a lot of dumb things.

 

[Bo Dallas]

Ask me if I’m surprised that the ‘pro Captain Marvel’ side of this discussion is the side that reverted to name calling.

 

[Bren]

I had no issue with her in this film, and in fact including her own film, I think the writers and directors need to give her more stuff to do.

I do think she's horribly overpowered compared to the other heroes but that's sure as hell not Brie Larson's fault.

Although the all female shot seemed forced (anything forced normally bothers me) it was completely fine to me in this case. Every one of the ladies in that shot I enjoyed in the other films... Really sad

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Nat wasn't in it *sad*

 

[henzINNIT]

Bae Larson's new suit and hair were delightful. I liked her in this, a little under-utilized.

 

[Mars452]

I was talking about me. Yes Brie Larson sucks so that doesn’t help. It’s not about diversity, Altho she says a lot of dumb things.

Ah, so you hate her because she’s a vocal feminist. And you ignore Chris Evans and Mark Ruffalo vocally championing progressivism and diversity because of what? Oh, right, it’s because Larson is a woman.

 

[Donner]

I ****ing hate how every Brie Larson discussion has to include some whiny guys who hate her because she's outspoken and then translate that anger into hating her character as well. Like get a life.

 

[Quentin Beck]

Bae Larson's new suit and hair were delightful. I liked her in this, a little under-utilized.

I agree, I think she looks more attractive with short hair.

 

[Donner]

I agree, I think she looks more attractive with short hair.

I liked it, too. She looked badass.

 

[KevTravels]

I found myself a bit disappointed by Carol's brief appearance in this movie. She didn't need to be along for the ride the whole time, but her minimal interactions with...basically everyone was definitely one of the holes in the film for me.

I can't see what makes one feel sick about that shot though. It's fine. I mean, it's just my opinion, but I thought it was cute enough. Felt a bit too much like Marvel patting themselves on the back for something that didn't feel entirely earned to me, but it was alright. Then again, maybe that's a bit of the recent interviews colouring my perspective.

Yeah, I was hoping she'd have a larger role in the film.

And at least a scene showing the introductions and all.

 

[henzINNIT]

Hoping for a Figuarts Danvers figure based on her latest look.

 

[spiderman2]

Personally, I vastly prefer the modern haircut to the old look, so...

Unless a women is like 80 it just dont look right for a women to have short hair looks to manly. Long hair is sex/cute.

 

[Mars452]

People in our theater went wild for the

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lady team-up scene.

Same, I prefer the long hair.

Also, it’s interesting that in the final cut of the “I like her” scene, her hair is curlier (like it was in Captain Marvel) and she’s not wearing obvious lipstick while she was in the trailers.

 

[heatvision38]

its funny because you could say the same thing about Spider Man in Civil War....


"He just kinda shows up and does stuff. I think they could've written that film without his character and the movie would been just as Good without him"

spider man was actually worse since Captain marvel movie had already come out before Endgame
spider man film was not released until after Civil war..

Spider-Man was shoehorned into Civil War. I don't think many people would disagree with that. Didn't the Russos have 2 different versions of these scenes in case they didn't get the permission to use Spidey? But, since they did the get the permission, they then spent some time on him. Tony goes to his apartment, talks to Aunt May, we get to see a little bit of Peter in his natural environment. And in the end, the less powerful Cap still is able to beat him. Spider-Man's experience in Civil War helps inform his character in Homecoming. What I'm hearing people say (and I agree) is find the middle way. You either don't have her at all (given her power levels and that she bailed certain characters out of otherwise tough spots that the writers would have had to find other solutions for) OR you find some way to write her a little bit more into the story, even if just a little. Show a little more of her dynamic with Thor, for example.

I don't agree with those who are bashing the character as I think they are exaggerating, but I do understand those who are frustrated with how she was handled mainly because it came at the expense of a more established character like Thor or Hulk.

 

[OroroGambitFan]

Spider-Man was shoehorned into Civil War. I don't think many people would disagree with that. Didn't the Russos have 2 different versions of these scenes in case they didn't get the permission to use Spidey? But, since they did the get the permission, they then spent some time on him. Tony goes to his apartment, talks to Aunt May, we get to see a little bit of Peter in his natural environment. And in the end, the less powerful Cap still is able to beat him. Spider-Man's experience in Civil War helps inform his character in Homecoming. What I'm hearing people say (and I agree) is find the middle way. You either don't have her at all (given her power levels and that she bailed certain characters out of otherwise tough spots that the writers would have had to find other solutions for) OR you find some way to write her a little bit more into the story, even if just a little. Show a little more of her dynamic with Thor, for example.

I don't agree with those who are bashing the character as I think they are exaggerating, but I do understand those who are frustrated with how she was handled mainly because it came at the expense of a more established character like Thor or Hulk.

Did u have the same level of frustration for Black Panther in Infinity War w.his limited appearance in that movie?

He fought alongside characters he had no real onscreen interactions with like Falcon, Scarlett Witch, Vission, War Machine, and Hulk. On top of that he played less of a role in that movie than she did in Endgame. Wakanda was crucial but Black Panther wasnt--- Captain Marvel had more crowd pleasing moments and a bigger presence than he did in Infity War and I dod9nt hear all this hate for him cuz he was hardly in that movie.

Not for all, but for a sinficant vocal few why cant we just admit it's not rational and their hatred is based in 'other' things.

 

[Bo Dallas]

Did u have the same level of frustration for Black Panther in Infinity War w.his limited appearance in that movie?

He fought alongside characters he had no real onscreen interactions with like Falcon, Scarlett Witch, Vission, War Machine, and Hulk. On top of that he played less of a role in that movie than she did in Endgame. Wakanda was crucial but Black Panther wasnt--- Captain Marvel had more crowd pleasing moments and a bigger presence than he did in Infity War and I dod9nt hear all this hate for him cuz he was hardly in that movie.

Not for all, but for a sinficant vocal few why cant we just admit it's not rational and their hatred is based in 'other' things.

One of the dopest parts of IW was when Captain America and Black Panther sprinted out to the front of the pack and jumped into battle first. Notice it goes with their character though because they’re both leaders. In BPs case he is quite literally a King not to mention King of the very land the final battle was taking place.

 

[Boy Scout]

This was my first time seeing Larson in the role (no interest in seeing her solo film), and she was...very bland. It’s hard to really judge her since she didn’t have a lot of screen time, but I can’t say she made a positive impression.

 

[Snow Queen]

Yeah, I was hoping she'd have a larger role in the film.

And at least a scene showing the introductions and all.

Yeah, that's where I feel they dropped the ball. I felt like they didn't really give her much of a dynamic with anyone, just a small moment each and then moving along. Which I'm not going to say doesn't make sense with how much they had to get through, but it was definitely an area I wish they had done more in.

I did like the short hair though. Not really how they styled it, but I liked that she had it.

 

[OroroGambitFan]

One of the dopest parts of IW was when Captain America and Black Panther sprinted out to the front of the pack and jumped into battle first. Notice it goes with their character though because they’re both leaders. In BPs case he is quite literally a King not to mention King of the very land the final battle was taking place.

Yeah I liked that scene too! But Carol, IMO had three really cool.mome ts that my crowd really reacted to. BP disappearing was the only moment I femember my crowd really reacting to.