Chadwick Boseman is Black Panther! - Part 5

[Paradox1]

Dwayne is the proven box office draw I think he'll come out first.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Even if he's Black Adam?

 

[Paradox1]

He fits Black Adam more but how could you not want him on the justice league?

 

[Dr. Evil]

He fits Black Adam more but how could you not want him on the justice league?

No doubt.

Also what if we don't see Black Panther until after Avengers 3? That would mean that we'll see two minority actors lead Superhero movies for DC before Marvel.

 

[Paradox1]

No doubt.

Also what if we don't see Black Panther until after Avengers 3? That would mean that we'll see two minority actors lead Superhero movies for DC before Marvel.

More than likely this will be the situation. The justice league is going to be a very diverse group. Comprising of at least two characters of color Momoa and Ray fisher with a possible third in Dwanye Johnson. I personally don't think it means anything but DC has planned to diversify it's big roster.

 

[Dr. Evil]

More than likely this will be the situation. The justice league is going to be a very diverse group. Comprising of at least two characters of color Momoa and Ray fisher with a possible third in Dwanye Johnson. I personally don't think it means anything but DC has planned to diversify it's big roster.

Plus Gal Gadot is Israeli.

 

[Mike Murdock]

^ It's possible Vin Diesel will star in a movie before Dwayne Johnson, though. I do think Wonder Woman will beat Captain/Ms. Marvel, though.

Hudlin was heavy handed, but he made BP more popular and relevant than ever, including giving him his only solo series by hook and crook. He is the reason why we're not saying 'why isn't Marvel doing anything at all with T'Challa.' Barring someone from using their influence and passion to push the film because you don't like the way they write dialogue is vindictive and self sabotaging. You want Hudlin as a producer and a champion of the film.

I don't think he's necessarily required (I certainly would like him promoting it, though). I just don't think there's any reason to be upset if he were chosen. His stories could be heavy-handed. I have no problem with that (I'm a big fan of Ann Nocenti's Daredevil run afterall), but I can see that as a possible concern.

However, pushing boundaries when it came to discussion of race and possibly doing it in a sloppy manner are one thing. I fail to see how that at all qualifies as "ghetto lingo" as Nokio put it.

I'm not big on any fish out of water type things with T'Challa. I think there are comical situations everywhere to be exploited, rather than T'Challa being at all familiar with the outside world, seeing as how he studied abroad and went on an incredibly long walkabout.

Yeah, it would make little sense for T'Challa. If they wanted some other character with him to be shocked by those things, maybe that's ok, but I'd rather nothing about Wakanda to be played for laughs. They should quickly bury any thoughts of any "Coming to America" nonsense. Wakanda subverts all those stereotypes and tropes, which is part of what makes it so cool. If anything, you could have a westerner go to Wakanda and have fish out of water moments if you can't live without them.

 

[Raiden]

No doubt.

Also what if we don't see Black Panther until after Avengers 3? That would mean that we'll see two minority actors lead Superhero movies for DC before Marvel.

I think Marvel will release BP in Phase III, and possible Capt/Ms. Marvel as well. I do agree that Marvel must diversify its Avengers roster, and in fact Rhodes will be in AOU as either WM or IP so they're already doing that, but a solo movie starring BP is very important.

 

[Nokio]

I stand by my comments on Hudlin. Making Doom racist was the jumping off the train for me. I tried supporting BP cause I love the character but I did not like his writing. No producer no anything on a film. I hope Marvel pulls it off and not think they need to have a black production team. I just haven't seen any black writer or director pull off a sci fi, adventure, action, or fantasy film. I can't think of one and those genres are what BP falls under. I could be wrong and maybe it's the studio brass that have hampered the talent of black directors and writers and only give them work on films with all black casts that are usually comedies or a pre civil rites film about black struggle and slavery. Sure their have been some films that wasn't considered black movies but I can't think of one that has pressed me greatly. Tchalla and Wakadians aren't Black Americans and they shouldn't be portrayed as such. They have a different culture and are an isolationist society. I can just see a black director and writer easily screwing this project up.

 

[Dr. Evil]

If it's a Marvel movie, they are going to use their in-house production team of Kevin Feige, Lou D'Esposito, Alan Fine, Victoria Alonzo and Jeremy Latcham. The only outside producer they will use for a Black Panther movie is Stan Lee. It's 100% likely that Hudlin will not produce Black Panther.

 

[Nokio]

If it's a Marvel movie, they are going to use their in-house production team of Kevin Feige, Lou D'Esposito, Alan Fine, Victoria Alonzo and Jeremy Latcham. The only outside producer they will use for a Black Panther movie is Stan Lee. It's 100% likely that Hudlin will not produce Black Panther.

I hope you're right and hope Feige keeps it on house but I can just see them thinking of and fear media backlash if a black director or writer isn't brought in. One thing I'm sticking to is Marvel please do not allow Hudlin anywhere near this production.

 

[Mike Murdock]

I stand by my comments on Hudlin. Making Doom racist was the jumping off the train for me. I tried supporting BP cause I love the character but I did not like his writing. No producer no anything on a film. I hope Marvel pulls it off and not think they need to have a black production team. I just haven't seen any black writer or director pull off a sci fi, adventure, action, or fantasy film. I can't think of one and those genres are what BP falls under. I could be wrong and maybe it's the studio brass that have hampered the talent of black directors and writers and only give them work on films with all black casts that are usually comedies or a pre civil rites film about black struggle and slavery. Sure their have been some films that wasn't considered black movies but I can't think of one that has pressed me greatly. Tchalla and Wakadians aren't Black Americans and they shouldn't be portrayed as such. They have a different culture and are an isolationist society. I can just see a black director and writer easily screwing this project up.

First off, you still haven't explained what you meant by "ghetto lingo."

Second, Marvel directors have not been mainstream directors in the genres that the film ends up as. The Russo brothers were not directors of sci fi, action-adventure, or fantasy. They were directors of You, Me, and Dupree.

Third, I agree that the problems of Black Americans are not the same as the issues a movie of Wakanda would necessarily touch (although, if Black Panther leaves Wakanda, such issues would probably present themselves), but issues of Imperialism in Africa and both racist and imperialist views towards that continent are certainly relevant. And I see nothing to indicate that a black director (even an African American one) wouldn't be able to handle that situation.

 

[Paradox1]

I stand by my comments on Hudlin. Making Doom racist was the jumping off the train for me. I tried supporting BP cause I love the character but I did not like his writing. No producer no anything on a film. I hope Marvel pulls it off and not think they need to have a black production team. I just haven't seen any black writer or director pull off a sci fi, adventure, action, or fantasy film. I can't think of one and those genres are what BP falls under. I could be wrong and maybe it's the studio brass that have hampered the talent of black directors and writers and only give them work on films with all black casts that are usually comedies or a pre civil rites film about black struggle and slavery. Sure their have been some films that wasn't considered black movies but I can't think of one that has pressed me greatly. Tchalla and Wakadians aren't Black Americans and they shouldn't be portrayed as such. They have a different culture and are an isolationist society. I can just see a black director and writer easily screwing this project up.

Why would you go on to lump in black writers, producers and directors?

 

[Dr. Evil]

For me anybody who directs the film has to know the Marvel Universe and understands that the film has to connect to the MCU.

 

[RockSP]

And I see nothing to indicate that a black director (even an African American one) wouldn't be able to handle that situation.

It's an utterly ridiculous and insulting mindset.

Why would you go on to lump in black writers, producers and directors?

Because troll.

 

[terry78]

And that is the fanboy geek mindset right there. Same with female characters, they don't think a female writer/director could give them what they want.

 

[RockSP]

For me anybody who directs the film has to know the Marvel Universe and understands that the film has to connect to the MCU.

It goes without saying that it would be written as being part of the MCU.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Like I said, anyone who directs this film has to connect to the MCU in some way. It's why I think that either Don Cheadle or Clark Gregg would be good candidates to direct Black Panther. They both know the MCU very well and would not have any problems with connecting the film to the rest of the MCU when Marvel asks them to. I would think that if the Miles Davis movie that Cheadle's doing does well critically, perhaps Marvel will want him to direct one of their films and this could be that film.

 

[RockSP]

It will be connected to the MCU no matter who directs it. The director has no say in that. It's up to the writer(s) to make that connection, with Fiege and co. giving the "yay or nay" to whatever they write.

 

[Dr. Evil]

It will be connected to the MCU no matter who directs it. The director has no say in that. It's up to the writer(s) to make that connection, with Fiege and co. giving the "yay or nay" to whatever they write.

Well, both Cheadle and Gregg have written the movies they have directed.

 

[SlamAdams]

I still don't see why a Marvel alum has to do it.

 

[Dr. Evil]

I still don't see why a Marvel alum has to do it.

They don't have to. It was just a suggestion anyways.

 

[SlamAdams]

He fits Black Adam more but how could you not want him on the justice league?

haha I was wondering why he suddenly was being coy about being Black Adam when he has so adamant about it for awhile. They probably are selling him on Shazam

 

[Mrs. Wayne]

Heard Feige say they were thinking of making a Black Panther movie or it's in development? Because this movie needs to be made above everything else Marvel...besides Deadpool of course, but that's up to FOX.

 

[Paradox1]

haha I was wondering why he suddenly was being coy about being Black Adam when he has so adamant about it for awhile. They probably are selling him on Shazam

Exactly since Shazam could be in 6films(his own trilogy along with JL)while Black Adam maybe two or three films. I don't know how many times you could shoe horn him in as a villain.