The Dark Knight Rises Christian Bale Rules Out Robin For Batman 3 (and beyond)

[FlawlessVictory]

Bale's Batman is too young and still relatively new to the scene so it's much too early to add Robin, IMO. Robin should only be introduced when Batman is much, much, much older and it becomes increasingly more difficult for him to do the things he used to. Then Robin could become an asset. Otherwise, he would just get in the way.

So, I agree with Bale, keep him out!

 

[Crook]

Batman WAS young when he picked up Grayson. I don't get why that keeps being brought up.

 

[FlawlessVictory]

Batman WAS young when he picked up Grayson. I don't get why that keeps being brought up.

I realize that, but IMO I think it would work better if Batman is much older when he takes him in. I'd prefer to see Batman solo on the scene for a long time.

 

[Hunter Rider]

I'm like a tarts draws as far as this issue is concerned.

 

[terry78]

I'm like a tarts draws as far as this issue is concerned.

You're gonna have to speak the king's english to get that point across, buddy.

 

[DiFabio]

Robin could work in Nolan's universe without looking out of place and corny. Especially if it's handled tastefully like Batman The Animated Series. I've always viewed that interpretation as being definitive. Instead of being portrayed as a wise cracking, "gay", sidekick, Dick Grayson was established as Bruce's "son" and ally.

I'm not into the idea of a "Batfamily", and I completly dislike the idea of having Batgirl, Tim Drake, Jason Todd, Batwoman, Batmite etc. But I don't see why Robin, or atleast Dick Grayson can't be introduced. In TAS he was a young man who attended college when he fought crime, not a kid. Robin could be just as "dark" as Batman it all depends on how he's portrayed.

I don't see why Nolan and Co. would shun the idea of having Robin. You would think Nolan would be up to the challenge of placing Robin in a grounded "realistic" setting. That's exactly why he felt he had to do the Dark Knight. He came in to interpret his idea of the Joker, and suceeded. With a few minor tweaks to the origin story i'm sure he could make one hell of a Batman and Robin film. Dick Grayson is esentially Bruce Wayne anyway. Both of their parents are slain in front of them by a criminal etc. Nolan could make some powerful, psychological drama i'm sure. Nolan and Warner Bros. would sure have balls if they went as far as naming a future film "Batman and Robin", and corrected all their wrongs. I'd love to see that.

It's a shame Robin is so looked down upon. Don't get me wrong I love Batman going solo on his war on crime, but Dick Grayson's Robin is just as important as Bruce Wayne's Batman and Harvey Dent's Two Face, and The Joker, and Gordon, and Alfred etc. In the right hands any character can work.

 

[drillmaster]

I dont want Robin.

However a scene where Joker (Not gonna happen so substitute in another villain) beats some kid pretending to be Batman with a crowbar could work and give us Nolan's version of Jason Todd.

 

[Antrax255]

What about Nightwing or Red Hood?

 

[BobJM]

I don't like Robin, never have and probably never will. But what I can't stand is this blatant disregard for such a pivotal character in the character's history.

Nolan and Bale, in their interviews regarding Robin, come off as highly-conceited as if they had almost created the character of Batman and regret the day they created a character like Robin. It's sort of slap in the face to Bob Kane by constantly trashing the Boy Wonder. I can see if they are constantly making fun of a joke character like Cluemaster or something silly like that but Robin was and still is a major part of Batman and is included in many of the stories that Nolan references (Dark Victory, anyone?).

 

[Sawyer]

That'd be absolutely pointless. That's like introducing Selina and never showing/developing her into Catwoman.

If they don't want Robin, fine. Don't bother with Grayson then, just for the sake of it. I'd be much more comfortable with a team that actually understands the character.

Yeah, you're probably right. Then heres how I feel about it....

No Robin!

 

[Cunning Stunts]

Many valid points can be made both ways for introducing Robin.

One, Bruce Wayne is closer to and cares more for Dick Grayson probably more than he cares for anyone else. Also, Dick matured Batman from a 100% crime-fighting monster, into a more father-like figure for Gotham City.

On the other hand, bringing a ten-year old child into play is not the brightest option for The World's Greatest Detective... Especially when putting the ten-year old child into a very flamboyant, bright suit.

The best way I can see this scenario happening is Dick being adopted by Bruce (at an age higher than ten, I think... 16 minimum), and while Bruce is out, Dick rampages around Gotham as Robin, trying to find and help Batman, much as he does in Dark Victory (if I'm remembering correctly). Once he finds Batman, he'd be trained for years, and allowed to help Bruce as Nightwing.

Oh, and one more thing. If Frankie Muniz is cast, I'm boycotting the film.

 

[Darkknight14]

No one would be dumb enough to cast Muniz, or Shia or anyone like that. Robin could work, but as it has been said, it has to be done by the right people that understand the character. Unfortunately, the person that seems to understand the Batman mythos well enough to do it right on the big screen cant stand the idea of bringing Robin in. But I do agree he will be brought in one day, I just hope he's done well, because if he's done wrong again..well..he's pretty much screwed as far as the big screen goes, if he isnt already.

 

[Cunning Stunts]

No one would be dumb enough to cast Muniz, or Shia or anyone like that. Robin could work, but as it has been said, it has to be done by the right people that understand the character. Unfortunately, the person that seems to understand the Batman mythos well enough to do it right on the big screen cant stand the idea of bringing Robin in. But I do agree he will be brought in one day, I just hope he's done well, because if he's done wrong again..well..he's pretty much screwed as far as the big screen goes, if he isnt already.

I thought that too, but rumors are going around that Nolan explicity said that Muniz would be his #1 option.

 

[Sawyer]

I thought that too, but rumors are going around that Nolan explicity said that Muniz would be his #1 option.

He was kidding.

 

[Cunning Stunts]

He was kidding.

Praise Allah.

 

[batman44]

Sigh; it's so depressing that so many people dismiss Robin. Schumacher does him poorly, and suddenly the entire community decides that the only way he can be done is the wrong way. Is this selective ignorance a disease? Am I at risk?

Robin, just like Batman, is as good or bad as you make him, and as tonally appropriate as you make him. He's an integral part of the Batman mythos, and has been written in ways that suit the modern Batman for years and years. His presence will not make the film any less dark, any more campy, or any of the other nonsense you people spew. Any writer or filmmaker worth his salt can make Robin work.

yes

 

[Sawyer]

Praise Allah.

Did you genuinely believe that Christopher Nolan would ever consider casting Frankie Muniz as Robin?

 

[GregComicFan]

I still think there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with introducing Dick Grayson. It only makes perfect sense that at some point in Batman's career that he would run across another young child, whose tragic past (parents killed before his eyes), reminds him of himself... and he takes the boy in as his ward, feeling he can, somehow, someway, invoke the best in the boy, and help him work through his dilemma....or perhaps to give him the life Bruce never had, and to prevent him from seeking revenge.....

THAT'S A SOLID STORYLINE FOR BATMAN 3.

The red suit. The boy wonder. The dynamic duo... "Robin"...THAT ISNT!

 

[Nightwing1977]

No Robin please. We already got him in 2 movies. I prefer Batman solo on films for now. He can work in Nolan's films, but I think he just prefer to use Batman alone than having a kid join along with him.

 

[omerhead]

I would rather see Catwoman as Batman's sidekick instead of Robin.

 

[TheBlueMcCoy82]

if Robin never shows up in the new movie series, I'm fine with that. I like the solo stories of Batman better anyway.

 

[nightwing2010]

I have no words to say except they should read Dark Victory

i agree i dont get why bale is such an arrogant pompous ass about robin, he claims he loves dark victory(a very robin centric story) then makes a moronic statemebt like this? hes a Jackass Dark Victory is essential a Nolan filkm with ROBIN IN IT!!!! hes a Major part of the Mythos WB dont LET Bale Ruin this Franchise by excluding the CHARACTER! I EMPLORE U!

 

[matrix_ghost]

JOBLO has a interested colun where they talk about certain topics which hollywood should consider. With TDK's release they also had something about robin.
The gay part did have me lolling ...hard t:

http://www.joblo.com/cmon-hollywood-167
C'mon Hollywood #167 Jul. 1, 2008


Source: Joblo.com's Cool Columns by: Sturdy





... leave Robin out of Batman!
by Sturdy

I’ve read rumors that the third Nolan-directed Batman film might introduce Bats’ trusty sidekick Robin. I don’t know if this is true or not, or how much of a role Robin would play in the film, but I want to go on record now as saying I think it’s a horrible idea. Again, I have no idea what Nolan has planned and common sense says trust the guy to do whatever he wants, but I just can’t see any way the character of Robin would work in Nolan’s Gotham City.




For starters, I don’t think the character of Robin has ever worked, whether it be on film, TV or in the comics. He’s always seemed a little awkward and annoying. I guess you could make an argument for the old Batman TV show, but that was a different time and a much different type of Batman. Obviously, the Schumacher Robin was horrible. I think when you get into the comics, Robin changes the tone and feel of the story. For some reason, I can’t take Batman as seriously when he has Robin around. Let’s face it; Robin is not a cool character. Even if you go with a darker version of Robin, he’s still just a boy gymnast that likes to wear tights.




If I told you a story about a handsome, young, boy gymnast that moved in with an attractive, wealthy, single, older man, what would be the first thing you would assume? Exactly. That’s kind of my point when it comes to Batman and Robin. Their connection always feels forced and slightly homoerotic. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, I just don’t want that in Nolan’s Batman. That’s better left to a different type of movie in a completely different type of genre. Maybe one of those you would have to order under a fake name.




I would venture to say that if you got together all of today’s best writers and filmmakers and locked them in a room, they wouldn’t be able to come up with a Robin storyline that worked. The only possibility I could see is if you started from scratch with the two characters and began a whole new franchise. I think you’d have to create a separate world and have a completely different Batman. Nolan has crafted such an amazing character with his Batman that I just can’t see him being able to add Robin into the fold without ruining what he’s created.





I would love to hear a scenario in which this would work because I can’t come up with anything. Maybe, and I mean maybe with Bruce Wayne going to the circus in the very last scene of the third film. That could possibly work, but definitely not in a major role. Nolan has denied Robin will make an appearance, but rumors are popping up and that has me worried. Lets allow BATMAN AND ROBIN to be the last time we see Robin on film.


While i'm personally not a big fan of robin ( hit and miss character for me) , i do like the origin of Robin the Darkl Victory. However , given the dark world that Nolan created i think there may be only 1 robin fit for that world.

Dick Grayson

 

[nightwing2010]

I still think there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with introducing Dick Grayson. It only makes perfect sense that at some point in Batman's career that he would run across another young child, whose tragic past (parents killed before his eyes), reminds him of himself... and he takes the boy in as his ward, feeling he can, somehow, someway, invoke the best in the boy, and help him work through his dilemma....or perhaps to give him the life Bruce never had, and to prevent him from seeking revenge.....

 

[nightwing2010]

is christian bale an idiot? did he see thye ROAD TO PERDITION? mix THAT WITH DARK VICTORY AND THATS EXACTLY HOW ROBIN COULD WORK IN NOLANS FILMS!! if nolan wont do it THEN GET SAM MENDES TO DIRECT BATMAN!!!