Conan

[afan]

'Jamon I'm as big a fan of Arnold as the next guy, but Arnold was an awful Conan casting. Conan's physique is not that of a body builder, and a proper portrayal calls for much more acting skill than Arnold was capable of.
Hopeful that this film adheres to REH's vision, tho the quotes I have read make me doubtful.

 

[Nivek]

I would prefer something close to the Dark Hourse series currently going on. But casting Conan, I hope they go for an unknown, no wrestlers playing Conan. Secondaries, I don't care, cast the entire WWE as the various Warlords, Chieftains, and pillagers, but get a guy who can look the part, do the action, and read the lines.

 

[superkong 500]

I can't believe they picked Nispel to direct Conan. He directed the awful pathfinder, his Friday the 13th was mediocre and his texas chainsaw remake was almost as bad. I mean Conan and the wonderful world that REH created could translate into a fantasy adventure cinematic masteriece and this is who they choose. Iam sorry to sound like a troll but this guy's a hack plus he can't shoot action to save his life (unless you like extreme closeups with quickcuts and shakycam which render the action totally unwatchable). I wonder, with so many good filmakers why would they choose Nispel.

 

[Nivek]

Jeez, given the whining and high minded criticism of people developing this film (excluding Ratner, he deserved it), it's no wonder it's taking 25 years to get another Conan film going.

 

[That-Guy]

Well, anything's better than Ratner, so amen to that. Not sure about this guy though... I liked the Texas Chainsaw Massacre remake for the most part, so at least there's that.

 

[superkong 500]

I would prefer something close to the Dark Hourse series currently going on. But casting Conan, I hope they go for an unknown, no wrestlers playing Conan. Secondaries, I don't care, cast the entire WWE as the various Warlords, Chieftains, and pillagers, but get a guy who can look the part, do the action, and read the lines.

The dark horse comic series could be a great inspiration and the cary nord art is excellent. imagine conan fighting the ice giants or leading an army against the army of the dead. Plus I want to see a conan with character and heart not just big muscles.

 

[rogue trooper]

tho the quotes I have read make me duobtful.

Such as?

 

[ChickenScratch]

Well, for that matter, neither was Arnold.

Yeah, and Arnold sucked as Conan. As random barbarian with a sword he was cool, but he was not Conan.

 

[afan]

Such as?

From the Hype item.....
..........Nispel said he will blend his childhood imaginings of the character with the influence of the famous Conan illustrations by Frank Frazetta, and the influence of such viscerally violent period films as Mel Gibson's Apocalypto.

No mention of REH at all....

 

[Balthus Dire]

I personally loved Arnold as Conan and thought the first Conan was one of the greats. Even if he wasn't like the comics, you have to admit he really defined the role for those who didn't read the books.

As for Nispel, at least we know for sure his cinematography will be great. His movies always have a great look to them, even Pathfinder looked gorgeous. I know that's not the most important part when making a film, but I'm willing to give him a chance.

Bret Ratner sucks at storytelling and has the most boring shot selection ever. I'm so relieved we aren't getting stuck with him.

 

[rogue trooper]

No mention of REH at all....

He's talking of the visuals. The image we all have of Conan is one that Frank Frazetta is responsible for molding. When talking story-wise, I'm sure Howard's name will come out.

Regarding Conan's physique, well, I think, for example, the physique Hugh Jackman had for Wolverine, particularly in the first two X-Mens, is one that I think best fits the descriptions of Robert Howard. The thing is, though, there is the more mainstream audience to consider.

 

[블라스]

I'm happy with this choice, this could be the project he really needs.
I just hope they do a decent job with the story (please base this on REH stories) and the action (please no quick-cuts! and pull back the camera).

 

[블라스]

Oh, and the guy who said Solomon Kane looks like "****"....go to the IMDB, there was a screening and it's getting some good reviews.

 

[afan]

^Perhaps, which is why I am hopeful and doubtful at the same time.
Reading Howard's stories instills an image of Conan and of the world he lived in, they are the inspiration for Frazetta's works, and I would feel better if he included Howard as an influence.

Regarding Conan's physique, well, I think, for example, the physique Hugh Jackman had for Wolverine, particularly in the first two X-Mens, is one that I think best fits the descriptions of Robert Howard. The thing is, though, there is the more mainstream audience to consider.

Amen.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

'Jamon I'm as big a fan of Arnold as the next guy, but Arnold was an awful Conan casting. Conan's physique is not that of a body builder, and a proper portrayal calls for much more acting skill than Arnold was capable of.
Hopeful that this film adheres to REH's vision, tho the quotes I have read make me doubtful.

Sorry, have never read the books so Arnold's is the only Conan I know, loved him in the role though.

 

[Nivek]

Sorry, have never read the books so Arnold's is the only Conan I know, loved him in the role though.

Pick up the Dark Horse Conan trades, great Art, and they are incredibly faithful to Howards tales.

 

[ChickenScratch]

That's the problem, most people have a totally wrong image of who Conan is because of that first movie. I'll say again, Arnold's great but he's no Conan.

 

[Balthus Dire]

Conan cannot cry....so I cry for him!

 

[That-Guy]

I personally haven't read any of the Conan books or comics, though I've been meaning to get around to it. What are the principle differences between that Conan and the Arnold version?

 

[블라스]

I was going to type some stuff, but I better let you read this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conan_the_Barbarian#Personality_and_character

 

[rogue trooper]

The Conan in Howard's books is a more expressible Conan, verbally and physically. The stories are also more vivid. Howard's stories are like a cross between Edgar Rice Burroughs and H.P. Lovecraft. You should try them.

 

[That-Guy]

The Conan in Howard's books is a more expressful Conan, verbally and physically. The stories are also more vivid. Howard's stories are like a cross between Edgar Rice Burroughs and H.P. Lovecraft. You should try them.

Thanks, I think I will. Any ideas on who could take up the role? I know that a lot of people are stuck on the "Arnold or no one" idea, but if the true character is really as different as you say, then it shouldn't be too hard.

Plus, I don't think that the original Conan films have the diehard fanboy devotion of something like Indiana Jones, where its nearly impossible to envision another actor taking up the role.

 

[afan]

I personally haven't read any of the Conan books or comics, though I've been meaning to get around to it. What are the principle differences between that Conan and the Arnold version?

If by Arnold's version you mean the film..............

No exhaustive origin to tell. Conan is a born on a battlefield and that's about it. Nothing drives him but his own wanderlust, and boundless ambition.

 

[블라스]

Hmm, they should make a "Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser" movie.
As great as REH's Conan is, I feel Fritz Leiber's F&TGM are even better.

 

[Midnyte_Sun]

Nispel said he will blend his childhood imaginings of the character with the influence of the famous Conan illustrations by Frank Frazetta, and the influence of such viscerally violent period films as Mel Gibson's Apocalypto.

This is going to be f*c$^& Pathfinder all over again. All style, no substance. Conan should be EPIC, not this washed down bloody movie (like Pathfinder) with crappy character development that pisses on everything Rob. E. Howard stood for.

This is just %&*^(& dissapointing...