Constantine General Discussion Thread

[Tanin]

Anymore worn down and he will simply look homeless.

 

[chamber-music]

I thought the Fear Machine storyline dragged a bit in the comics but I would like to see it adapted into the show.

To be fair, he looked clean when he sported a suit in his early Swamp Thing appearances (and again in Andy Diggle's short lived Hellblazer run). Then there when wearing a sweater for early half of Mike Carey's run and throughout Hellblazer: Pandemonium

Yep and in the early Delano stuff as well Constantine looked pretty slick with his fancy suits and earring. He was 80's sting and gradually looked more and more dishevelled and worn down as Hellblazer went on.

 

[Scarecrow_King]

I need to read Hellblazer.

 

[Mr_336]

I thought the Fear Machine storyline dragged a bit in the comics but I would like to see it adapted into the show.


Yep and in the early Delano stuff as well Constantine looked pretty slick with his fancy suits and earring. He was 80's sting and gradually looked more and more dishevelled and worn down as Hellblazer went on.

Especially when Sean Phillips drew him during the Jenkins era and late Carey, Mina, and Milligan with his shirt untucked and scar to boot.

Man, I hope they adapt it. It'd be cool seeing Ryan going from Hippy John to Flash Git

 

[luis4u]

Can a mod moved this to the official forum please..

 

[TheUnknownX]

^ seconded. This thread should be moved to the main forum.

 

[luis4u]

^ seconded. This thread should be moved to the main forum.

agreed..

 

[Mr_336]

And here we are!

 

[Sawyer]

http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/05/16/best-and-worst-decisions-of-2014-upfronts/

Least exciting comic book adaptation: A tie between Constantine and ABC’s midseason drama Agent Carter. How well does America know these characters anyway?

Dear Entertainment Weekly,

Go **** yourself.

Sincerely,
Anyone and Everyone who has seen that trailer.

 

[roach]

I have a buddy who does post work here in Burbank and he had a chance to watch the pilot. He's a fan of the comics and said he loved it. He said there is a Dr. Fate reference in it.

 

[Sawyer]

Pretty much as soon as Neil Marshall was announced to direct the pilot, I figured we were in for something special.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

Well I posted somewhere here and in the mix from the thread mash I couldn't find it. Oh well, anywho this looks fantastic! If they can deliver that kind of quality every week than you can count me as a fan. I grew up reading Marvel comics so all the DC stuff is new to me but I thoroughly enjoy Arrow and have high hopes for Flash. What I think is great is I don't have any expectations going in so I wont get miffed on little details and I can come in the forums and catch all the easter eggs and references!

I enjoyed the movie for what it was but as I've read and figured out for myself it was exactly comic accurate. I'm going to try and get as many people to give it a chance as will listen to me. I'm a little worried about the Fri time slot but Grimm is doing well enough and that audience should have no problem getting into this

 

[Tanin]

I'm hoping for the best but most shows I like are cancelled really fast.

 

[GENERAL RAAM582]

I'm sad that it's on the Friday deathslot. Hopefully fans of Grimm will be able to keep it alive, assuming it deserves to stay alive.

 

[chamber-music]

Marvel Editor In Chief Axel Alonso who also used to edit Hellblazer at Vertigo back in the day on the new Constantine TV adaptation.

"I like to reserve judgment until I actually see something. Unless, the announcement is so "What the $#%@!?" that it boggles the mind -- like when they announced that Keanu Reeves would be John Constantine in the 2005 movie. The new guy is better, but he's a bit… pretty. Anyone who's worked on "Hellblazer," as I did, probably has cast their dream actor for the lead role -- so a pre-yoga Sting or Clive Owen immediately come to mind when I think of John Constantine. But my first pick would probably be David Thewlis, who played a pretty good non-mystical John Constantine-type misanthrope in the [1993 Mike Leigh] movie "Naked." To me, Constantine is a mystical "Yojimbo;" he plays all sides against the middle, because it's just in his nature. He's a tragic figure whose lived too hard to stay pretty. And he's going to Hell -- not because of some shenanigans he pulled with the Devil, but because he truly deserves to go to Hell, and he knows it."

 

[Sawyer]

The new guy is better, but he's a bit… pretty.

 

[Guts]

It's about time this show got a sub forum.

 

[Rowsdower!]

David Thewlis is a good actor but he's too creepy looking to be a leading man. He's also 51... a bit too old to play Constantine now.

Additionally, John in the comics is regularly portrayed as a fairly good looking dude, just rough around the edges.

 

[Sawyer]

Additionally, John in the comics is regularly portrayed as a fairly good looking dude, just rough around the edges.

Which pretty much accurately describes Matt Ryan as we've seen him in the role. Good looking, but at the same, he's early 30s and is sort of rough-looking enough to pass for a good decade older than that.

 

[chamber-music]

Constantine's looks in the comics was based on eighties Sting wasn't exactly an unattractive man by most peoples standards.

Also the demon blood Constantine got kept him looking younger than he actually was in Hellblazer so even though John was a 50+ guy who drank heavily, chain smoked and lived on the streets for a year he still looked a like a guy in his late thirties or early forties.

 

[Rowsdower!]

Which pretty much accurately describes Matt Ryan as we've seen him in the role. Good looking, but at the same, he's early 30s and is sort of rough-looking enough to pass for a good decade older than that.

Exactly. He looks like someone who has been through some sh** to me; I don't know what Alonso is smoking. Of course, he does work for Marvel now, so it's possibly that guys like him and Quesada are just trolling DC with some of their recent comments.

 

[chamber-music]

Constantine would never go crawl on his knees, begging to go into heaven in front of an angel or God.

One of my favourite John Constantine storyline's was when he asked angel Gabriel to help him out with his lung cancer, using an Gabriel's unrepaid debt to him. Gabriel turned him down and told John to just die for his sins. Enraged, Constantine planned a scheme involving Gabriel falling for a woman, who actually is Ellie the succubus. His heart was ripped out of him during their sex, thus rendering mortal. By securing Gabriel's heart, John managed to make Gabriel do his bidding. It was short lived though, as Gabriel is later murdered by The First of the Fallen.

 

[Sawyer]

Premieres October 24th

 

[Quasar]

One more week and it could've debuted on Halloween.

 

[luis4u]