Cops on stakeout see 12-year-old kid running with a toy gun, and shoot him dead

[TBadora]

Another pic of our killer:

http://bp0.blogger.com/_uR9I-YSzTXc...-h/thumb_1183740179402_0p8657298647002451.jpg

Matt, you damn right I want this guy crucified, he has a history of bad behavior and has gotten away with it scott free one too many times. Killing an innocent 12 year old is going too far. If I had it my way, this guy would be hung by his b@lls, and taught a lesson he'd never forget.

 

[TBadora]

This report says that the child's family says that the child didn't even have a toy weapon on him, he had nothing but chips and pop. Maybe the reason why no pic of the gun has been released is because there wasn't any? You decide:

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/291670/12yearold_shot_and_killed_in_west_memphis.html
http://www.familybadge.org/screenprint.cfm?newsletterid=21031
http://www.familybadge.org/index.cf...uGroup/Home/NewsLetterID/21031/startrow/7.htm

Quote from boy's dad:

"The family of a 12-year-old killed by West Memphis Police wondered Sunday how the officer who shot him could have mistaken their baby-faced boy for an armed robber.

Even if DeAuntae Farrow had a toy gun in his hand. And they don't believe he did.

"If you are not able to tell the difference between a child and a grown person, you shouldn't be on the police force," said the boy's father, Robin Perkins. "And I have never known him to play with toy guns," he said.

http://mediaverse-memphis.blogspot.com/2007/06/on-seeing.html

 

[Mr Jide]

I bet Sir Ian Blair was involved with this fiasco too.

 

[Addendum]

So what time during the day did this happen? I've not heard a clear answer

 

[悪魔天]

I never said crooked cops don't exist...but I'm pretty sure we'd be reading a thread on SHH about it if someone were confronted on a sidewalk, handcuffed to their ankles and beaten by police. Christ, if someone's going to lie about something...at least make it somewhat realistic.

It is realistic.What would be the point of making something up like that? I have nothing to gain from it.

 

[Sloth7d]

Is that really the gun in question, from the case?

It could be. I can understand how he mistook it for a real one in the dark. This is just tragic.... I don't know how I feel about this anymore.

 

[Sloth7d]

Another pic of our killer:

http://bp0.blogger.com/_uR9I-YSzTXc...-h/thumb_1183740179402_0p8657298647002451.jpg

Matt, you damn right I want this guy crucified, he has a history of bad behavior and has gotten away with it scott free one too many times. Killing an innocent 12 year old is going too far. If I had it my way, this guy would be hung by his b@lls, and taught a lesson he'd never forget.

This report says that the child's family says that the child didn't even have a toy weapon on him, he had nothing but chips and pop. Maybe the reason why no pic of the gun has been released is because there wasn't any? You decide:

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/291670/12yearold_shot_and_killed_in_west_memphis.html
http://www.familybadge.org/screenprint.cfm?newsletterid=21031
http://www.familybadge.org/index.cf...uGroup/Home/NewsLetterID/21031/startrow/7.htm

Quote from boy's dad:

"The family of a 12-year-old killed by West Memphis Police wondered Sunday how the officer who shot him could have mistaken their baby-faced boy for an armed robber.

Even if DeAuntae Farrow had a toy gun in his hand. And they don't believe he did.

"If you are not able to tell the difference between a child and a grown person, you shouldn't be on the police force," said the boy's father, Robin Perkins. "And I have never known him to play with toy guns," he said.

http://mediaverse-memphis.blogspot.com/2007/06/on-seeing.html

Man, the way this is going either side could be lying. I just don't know anymore.

 

[Matt]

Man, the way this is going either side could be lying. I just don't know anymore.

Exactly. That is critical thinking! To look at the evidence and decide there isn't enough information to make an informed decision as opposed to Badora's idiotic "I KNOW CORRUPT COPS AND COPS BEAT RODNEY KING SO THIS GUY IS A MURDERER!" response.

 

[TBadora]

Can anybody explain why a cop would shoot a kid once in the leg, then move close and go for a kill shot? Keep in mind the kid was 12 years old, and whether he had a gun was questionable.

For the record I'd take the parent's side over the cops any day. The cop has the history of violent insubordinate behavior, and there are multiple witnesses saying the child didn't have a gun.

 

[TBadora]

BTW, Matt, I asked around and you are right, the kill shot is the standard, unfortunately. But every cop I asked said it is purely up the cops judgment, so it is not absolutely necessary (ie: you can go for the leg, if it is close enough, and if you feel it is enough for the arrest.)

 

[huskerwebhead]

Can anybody explain why a cop would shoot a kid once in the leg, then move close and go for a kill shot? Keep in mind the kid was 12 years old, and whether he had a gun was questionable.

Is that what happened or are you simply filling in the blanks? Do you know 100% that he "moved in for a kill shot." You make it sound like he stood over the boy laughing as he pulled the trigger. Drama queen much?

 

[PemLam]

Can anybody explain why a cop would shoot a kid once in the leg, then move close and go for a kill shot? Keep in mind the kid was 12 years old, and whether he had a gun was questionable.

For the record I'd take the parent's side over the cops any day. The cop has the history of violent insubordinate behavior, and there are multiple witnesses saying the child didn't have a gun.

Did he shoot twice, striking the boy in the leg and somewhere else; or did he shoot, then "move close and go for a kill shot" as you described? Quit sensationalizing s*** that you don't know happened or not.

Violent, insubordinate behavior because he tasered an emotionally unstable person holding an aluminum baseball bat?

 

[TBadora]

Is that what happened or are you simply filling in the blanks? Do you know 100% that he "moved in for a kill shot." You make it sound like he stood over the boy laughing as he pulled the trigger. Drama queen much?

That is what I have read on the issue. If you search for 10 minutes, you'll get an idea of what happened too. I never said anything about the cop laughing, let's keep this serious. Someone's son has died because of a cop's misinterpretation, it is no joke.

 

[Matt]

Can anybody explain why a cop would shoot a kid once in the leg, then move close and go for a kill shot? Keep in mind the kid was 12 years old, and whether he had a gun was questionable.

For the record I'd take the parent's side over the cops any day. The cop has the history of violent insubordinate behavior, and there are multiple witnesses saying the child didn't have a gun.

Because leg shots do not neutralize. I seriously doubt he'd know that the suspect was a child. He was on a stake out and likely had a specific suspect in mind. One who may have been dangerous. If an officer shoots, the goal is to kill. If you shoot someone in the leg their trigger finger still works fine and they can take out a hell of a lot of innocents or other officers while you go over to cuff them cause they can no longer run.

 

[Matt]

BTW, Matt, I asked around and you are right, the kill shot is the standard, unfortunately. But every cop I asked said it is purely up the cops judgment, so it is not absolutely necessary (ie: you can go for the leg, if it is close enough, and if you feel it is enough for the arrest.)

If you are dealing with an armed suspect in a public enviroment (like a gas station where this took place) where there are civilians around, do you really think anything less than shooting to kill is smart?

Badora, like I said, you have been looking to crucify this guy. If he did take a leg shot and it was a real gun and an innocent got hurt you'd be *****ing about the cop's failure to act.

 

[Matt]

Is that what happened or are you simply filling in the blanks? Do you know 100% that he "moved in for a kill shot." You make it sound like he stood over the boy laughing as he pulled the trigger. Drama queen much?

Pretty much everything Badora has said is an assumption.

 

[huskerwebhead]

That is what I have read on the issue. If you search for 10 minutes, you'll get an idea of what happened too. I never said anything about the cop laughing, let's keep this serious. Someone's son has died because of a cop's misinterpretation, it is no joke.

Who's joking. I'm just pointing out the fact that none of us have all the facts. And yet you're embellishing what may or may not happened...trying to make the guy look like evil incarnate "moving in close for a kill shot."

 

[PemLam]

That is what I have read on the issue. If you search for 10 minutes, you'll get an idea of what happened too. I never said anything about the cop laughing, let's keep this serious. Someone's son has died because of a cop's misinterpretation, it is no joke.

After 3 minutes of research I found out it was after 9:30 PM in a neighborhood known for drug and criminal activity...so considering it's dark, they're in a bad neighborhood, the kid's carrying what appears to be an authentic looking weapon and he fails to stop when told, I'd say the officer's actions were justified, however tragic it may have turned out to be.

In other words, why don't you quit trying to stir **** up because of your own personal biases or prejudices.

 

[TBadora]

Who's joking. I'm just pointing out the fact that none of us have all the facts. And yet you're embellishing what may or may not happened...trying to make the guy look like evil incarnate "moving in close for a kill shot."

Like I said, that is what I read.

 

[TBadora]

If you are dealing with an armed suspect in a public enviroment (like a gas station where this took place) where there are civilians around, do you really think anything less than shooting to kill is smart?

Badora, like I said, you have been looking to crucify this guy. If he did take a leg shot and it was a real gun and an innocent got hurt you'd be *****ing about the cop's failure to act.

Gas station? Are you sure it wasn't in front of an apartment complex?

 

[Matt]

Gas station? Are you sure it wasn't in front of an apartment complex?

My mistake, was thinking of another case. None the less, still plenty of innocent lives that can shot because the cop decided to shoot the guy in the knee.

 

[Matt]

Like I said, that is what I read.

Where did you read "Moving in close for a kill shot"?

 

[PemLam]

Where did you read "Moving in close for a kill shot"?

One of the bloggers commenting on it probably...and someone took it seriously.

 

[TBadora]

Where did you read "Moving in close for a kill shot"?

It wasn't on a blog, it may be on one of the links I posted earlier. Matt, I encourage you to actually take the time to watch the youtube videos I posted earlier, regardless of whether they are relevant to the case. They will open your eyes.

As for me, I am done trying to voice my opinion on the matter here. My bet is everyone who's posted on this thread, will at one point be at the receiving end of a crooked cop's demonstration of authority. I hope none of you end up getting the 'kill shot', but I do hope you will all remember, at that moment, that you heard me warn you all about crooked cops here on the SHH boards. My guess is that the cop who shot this innocent 12 year old, was indeed on of these crooked cops who are backed by the U.S. court system.

 

[Matt]

Your paranoia is ridiculous. And again, I've watched the videos. I am aware that there are crooked cops. This doesn't seem to be the case.