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Sequels Could Spider-Man 4 and 5 Set Up for the Sinister 6???

I agree. The way they did Venom in S3 was terrible. Sinister 6 is the best subject for Spider-man right now.


i agree and to bring back Venom i think its a good idea. for those who wanna leave Kingpin out the picture i would go with this team up....

Venom, Electro, Doc Ock, Lizard, Vulture and Hobgoblin
 
I m also not in favor of the 'switch to white to black' superhero. Like I said before I think this is lazy from Marvel to do such thing.They should take the time to create more new ethic superhero.

But regarding Kingpin it s an exception. There's not a lot of people who as a big size and knows how to act. Duncan did an excellent job in Daredevil. So if they can't find a big white dude that can play than there s no reason not to keep Duncan.


i see your point but i actually think they could've gotten a good white actor shaved his head and put him in some prosthetics like something out of the Nutty Professor
 
but Wolverine appeared in all 3 Xmen movies as a main hero and he's stiil getting his own movie...
yeah, but Wolverine didn't vaporize.
and even if he had died, his movie is a prequel.
 
I agree. The way they did Venom in S3 was terrible. Sinister 6 is the best subject for Spider-man right now.

Not what I meant at all. I have no problem with the way he was represented. But Venom has no place in the S6. It was a bad move in the comics & it would be a worse move now. Besides which, HE'S DEAD! Not disputably dead, but dead.
 
How is that relevant? Wolverine isn't dead & he's not a villain.

ok i wrote my last quote in a wrong way.
what i meant was Wolverine already appeared in three movies and still getting his own movie..(basically meaning people cant get enough of him)
so what i was saying was some people said putting Venom again in Spiderman movies might be repetitive, but no...i dont think its repetitive(even if hes getting his own movie)
 
Still a bad example. Wolverine was in all of the X-Men movies because he's part of the team (& the most popular member at that.)
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It's not the same thing. You'd have done better using Magneto. At least he's the villain. But I don't care if re-using Venom is repetitive or not. (It's not, not really, not when Norman has appeared in every movie thus far) It's just unjustifiable & he's dead. I don't even think his solo movie's a good idea.
 
white or black? jesus why don't they just cast Dane Cook as Luke Cage....but yes i agree that Kingpin should leader of the Sinister 6 if they go that route. but they should definitely make him white. not racist just saying it didn't work in Daredevil.

I m also not in favor of the 'switch to white to black' superhero. Like I said before I think this is lazy from Marvel to do such thing.They should take the time to create more new ethic superhero.

But regarding Kingpin it s an exception. There's not a lot of people who as a big size and knows how to act. Duncan did an excellent job in Daredevil. So if they can't find a big white dude that can play than there s no reason not to keep Duncan.


There are only a few superheroes whose race have anything to do with their characters. Apart from those, as far as I'm concerned, they can switch the races of any characters.

You say take time to create different ethnic superheroes? It takes decades for that to happen, and even when all is set and done, they'll never reach the heights of the original heroes from the golden age. You need to understand that there would be a lot more major super heroes of different ethnicities if racism wasn't so rampant when comics became popular.
 
Fisk makes sense as the major badguy of the next trilogy
seeing as Raimi was stupid enough to kill Ock
we know Fisk gets beaten by a blind man in Daredevil so it makes sense for him to hire and surround himself stooges/henchmen which is what he does,because if Daredevil can beat Fisk he'll need mercenarys to stop Spider-man.
and besides Spidey hasnt been dealing with crminals,he's been dealing with scientists.
about time he got on with it:oldrazz:
 
Most people say "nos for teh Sinistre six!"

Listen people, it's already been confirmed that Raimi wants to introduce Lizard in Spider-Man 4 (and possibly Kraven) as villains. As well as introduce Electro and Vulture in Spider-Man 4 as cameos or appearances. He's also stated he wants a Sinister Six. I beleive this means that most likely in Spider-Man 4 (along with what I said earlier, he will keep Sandman in the story as a reformed villain who's lying low). Then in 5 he will introduce Mysterio for the first time, then go through a storyline where Sandman slowly turns evil again. Electro, Kraven and Vulture stay on the back burner. Peter finally cures Lizard. And in the final moments of the 5th film (an after-credits scene) we realize that Doc Ock (Alfred Molina) is alive and running about! By the 6th film Sandman will be a total villain again (maybe his daughter dies from sickness, which is the final thrust back into villainy). Doc Ock decides to form a team with the beaten Mysterio, Electro, Kraven, Vulture and the highly agitated Sandman. Spider-Man miraculously beats them in a final battle, ending the series dramatically, Spider-Man having defeated his GREATEST adversaries: The Sinister Six!

As much as it does sound crowded, it's official, live with it. All we can do it hope and pray that Raimi doesn't ruin the characters... it can still be a good film despite it's crowdedness. A big problem with 3 is that Venom was killed off early, evil-Peter was turned into an emo-Peter and completely disco-nized, the love-story was a recreation of Spider-Man 2's just in reverse and Sandman's story was a bit confusing as he just suddenly decided to turn good... crowdedness was just a small issue, whether we choose to beleive it or not. The Dark Knight had Scarecrow (yes, I know, small role), Joker and Two-Face (who, let me add, they did the entire rise and fall in one film masterfully). They did the Batmen wanna-be's, the ENTIRE mob's story! The GPD story with Gordon, and Maggie's story and death! TDK was just as crowded as SM3 in terms of characters and storylines. SM3 just ruined it with the above mentioned things.
 
Most people say "nos for teh Sinistre six!"

Listen people, it's already been confirmed that Raimi wants to introduce Lizard in Spider-Man 4 (and possibly Kraven) as villains. As well as introduce Electro and Vulture in Spider-Man 4 as cameos or appearances. He's also stated he wants a Sinister Six....
it doesn't matter what he wants.
it is Vanderbilt who will decide what characters to use. Raimi has no word in it, as he knows nothing. and it was confirmed two or three days ago.
when will you guys learn? Raimi is not in charge of anything nor will he decide anything. James Vanderbilt will.
 
Not in Spider-Man's case, Sam Raimi really is Sony and Marvel's tool.
 
We'll see, we know all of Sam Raimi's goofy trademarks from the previous films, it's easy to tell what he injected into movies.
 
I was almost thinking, what if, instead of an actual Sinister 6 movie...

a movie with Mysterio, and the Chameleon (or even just Mysterio)
where, through disguises, illusions, robotic technology,..ect.
we see all of the previous villains redone

 
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Didn't he say he wanted Vulture and Electro in the fourth movie?

He wanted Vulture in the third movie, so it'll just make sense to put his story in the next movie.

I would actually have enjoyed a movie with Sandman and Electro just because you can easily show off Sandman's weakness with Electro around and it'll show off Spidey's intelligence with it.
 
I think it would be dumb of them to not do that.
"Spider-Man 6: Sinister Six" could be the big finally featuring the original cast and original director. (then they can revamp it with other actors and directors like James Bond films, or like Batman films.)
Sinister Six would be perfect, Spider-Man's biggest challenge. Stopping six powerful villains at one time. It sets up a problem that Spider-Man might not be able to resolve.
 
I think that was Raimi's big idea from the looks of what the second movie turned into and with the villains he wanted in the third film until Arad wanted Venom, but I don't understand why have Sandman a good-guy/bad-guy...Doc Ock was already one and him being the leader of the SS, all the other villains should be just bad-bad guys.
 
I was almost thinking, what if, instead of an actual Sinister 6 movie...

a movie with Mysterio, and the Chameleon (or even just Mysterio)
where, through disguises, illusions, robotic technology,..ect.
we see all of the previous villains redone


Nah.
 
I know I've said this before, but it bears repeating. You all complained about a movie with 3 villains. Now we want one with 6?

A+ guys :up:

Of Spidey's remaining villains, Lizard and Mysterio are the two I would like to see used most. Spidey has tons of great villains left for use. We don't need to do anything like the SS or bring back Ock/GG to make it good. Part of what makes the Spider-Man property so rich to hold is the fact he has a ton of villains who are usable.
 
I know I've said this before, but it bears repeating. You all complained about a movie with 3 villains. Now we want one with 6?

A+ guys :up:
Well, I never complained.
And if the villains are pre-established, it can work. It's not like the movie has to introduce them; it only needs to bring them together & put them to work.
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Well, if the villains are pre-established, it can work. It's not like the movie has to introduce them; it only needs to bring them together & put them to work.

If I may add... they need a realistic, motivation for coming together; because we all know that these criminals don't work together to well as a team. They are not Ocean's 11. They don't have a history or relationship to each other. So to simply put a team together for the sole purpose of killing Spiderman, shows a lack of imagination and lazy writing. Their motivation should have completely nothing to do with Spiderman; otherthan the fact, that Spiderman is risking his life in a intent to stop them.
 

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