Sequels Creatives for the MCU X-men

[Kuwolski]

I still prefer Singer above the others 2.

If you look at First Class (and all the other Vaughn movies) all scenes seems to be like closed theatral pieces, he cannot create the sense of a wider space.
I find very poor scenes like the one when all the young are together and they choose their nickname.

That's one of the few things I dislike about Vaughn as well, the staginess of scenes, but that's just an aspect of his own personal aesthetic. We have to take the good with the bad.

With more production time, I think that scene with the kids wouldn't have felt so much like a cheap tack on scene. Forced and out of place.

 

[Ordet]

That's one of the few things I dislike about Vaughn as well, the staginess of scenes, but that's just an aspect of his own personal aesthetic. We have to take the good with the bad.

I think with more time that scene with the kids wouldn't have seemed so much like a cheap tack on scene that felt so forced and out of place.

Propabily you are right.

 

[Frankeh]

I still prefer Singer above the others 2.

If you look at First Class (and all the other Vaughn movies) all scenes seems to be like closed theatral pieces, he cannot create the sense of a wider space.
I find very poor scenes like the one when all the young are together and they choose their nickname.

How is Singer better at that? Most of his action is in closed (and occasionally dimly-lit) spaces: Train Station, Liberty Island in X1; White House, X-Mansion, Stryker's base in X2; Pentagon, Warehouse and Monastery in DOFP... the Monastery in particular feels very much like a soundstage, only the green screen skies make it look like an actual location.

That's not to say his action doesn't work but it's hardly a demonstration of a sense of wider space.

 

[psylockolussus]

Vaughn handles action way better than Singer,the fact that we are even debating this is just oh... Wasn't Apocalypse the 3rd best cbm villain of all time?

 

[Kuwolski]

Vaughn handles action way better than Singer,the fact that we are even debating this is just oh... Wasn't Apocalypse the 3rd best cbm villain of all time?

Vaughn is exceptional with action and I'd love him to do another X-film. I think he was more referring to his aesthetic in general. I don't agree completely, but I can understand where he's coming from. At times it feels like his scenes are a bit claustrophobic, or self-contained in their own style bubble with no room to breathe.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

I don't want Singer or Vaughn involved. They've done their time with X-Men. Give it to some fresh blood.

 

[Kuwolski]

What about Tim Miller?

 

[AndrewGilkison]

What about Tim Miller?

I could see how his style would fit an MCU X-Men movie. Solid choice.

 

[Abudefduf]

Matthew Vaughn needs to be kept the heck away from the X-Women. He doesn't deserve them.

 

[Silvermoth]

I'm just hoping to see an x-franchise not directed by sex predators this time

 

[Kuwolski]

I'm just hoping to see an x-franchise not directed by sex predators this time

We may not know until after the fact.

Loooong after.

 

[metaphysician]

The idea that every Marvel director is interchangeable is laughable. Gunn and Waititi have considerably different styles even for both being on comic end of the spectrum, Whedon and the Russos feel almost completely different, etc. I feel like "every director is the same!" is badly concealed code phrase for "every director is not allowed to auteur the setting into oblivion".

 

[Silvermoth]

I think that used to be true of the marvel u but not so much anymore. Directors were very tightly reigned in and now that people know what to expect from a marvel movie they're allowed to do their own thing a bit

 

[Saitou Hajime]

The idea that every Marvel director is interchangeable is laughable. Gunn and Waititi have considerably different styles even for both being on comic end of the spectrum, Whedon and the Russos feel almost completely different, etc. I feel like "every director is the same!" is badly concealed code phrase for "every director is not allowed to auteur the setting into oblivion".

Or "they all have comedy, so they must be the same".

 

[Neptune]

Cristopher freaking Nolan! Make it happen Disney!

 

[Silvermoth]

Absolutely not. The x-men should be about hope

 

[psylockolussus]

Christopher Nolan wouldn't embrace its comicbookyness.

 

[x-er]

I'm just hoping to see an x-franchise not directed by sex predators this time

That is very much none of our business, really. I don't think Singer should be brought down again after he's already had a sex scandal before AND the movement right now is about abused women breaking the silence, not other men. Also, Singer works way better with ensemble casts than other directors Fox has employed, take his first films and even that H+ series that was discontinued. Now, whether or not he could stray from repeating the same X-Men formula is another story. That's something I would like to see. Maybe some out of space stuff like Asteroid M. Would've loved to see something from Singer along those lines, just less fantasy, more sci-fi.

btw, loads of men in history have had flaws, if you want to call them that, and sometimes of a sexual nature. Mozart, for one, liked doing some pervy stuff in bed. Doesn't stop anybody from enjoying his work.

 

[x-er]

Also, when has Fox topped any of Singer's stuff? X1, X2, DOFP are the best in the franchise, next to some spinoffs featuring Hugh Jackman.

Sorry, I'm just a bit pissed off at the fact that the current sexual harrassment movement is meant to help out a minority. Singer belongs to a minority and he's the best they've had.

 

[JP]

Mangold did with Logan. I'm a die hard X2 fan. First Class came close, and DoFP came closer, but I never felt X2 was topped... until I saw Logan.

 

[def28]

Yeah, it just hits every note.

Singer has pretty much been the only Director otherwise outside Vaughn. That's why the franchise really needs some new blood. Time to evolve, let the past die.

 

[Ordet]

1) Personal life is a thing. Arts is other thing.
We should not judge personal life, even if we have all the data. And we do really know nothing if no superfical facts.

History has several amazing artits with murky life, from the great greeks philosophers to Spacey, passing through musician and murderess like Burzum.

2) Yes, every Marvel director is interchangeable. (i leave out Waititi, 'cause i haven't see the last Thor yet, ant Branagh for the Asgard parts)
The only difference is only about the amount of comedy. That is not a real difference: it would be like saying Usual Suspects has a different director than X2.
Marvel Studios works like serial with Feige that is the showrunner.
(it's not a bad thing in itself: I cannot see the difference of the single filmmakers in The Wire tv series, that is a masterpiece).

3) Tim Miller: no. It's seem that you often confuse a (ostensible or not) faithfull at comics with ability in filmmaking.
Miller delivers a flat, boring movie that works only for the Deapool's charisma.
If you saw Atomic Blonde you should know that Deadpool 2's David Leitch is at totally another level, and not only in fighting scenes.

 

[Ordet]

How is Singer better at that? Most of his action is in closed (and occasionally dimly-lit) spaces: Train Station, Liberty Island in X1; White House, X-Mansion, Stryker's base in X2; Pentagon, Warehouse and Monastery in DOFP... the Monastery in particular feels very much like a soundstage, only the green screen skies make it look like an actual location.

That's not to say his action doesn't work but it's hardly a demonstration of a sense of wider space.

For 'wider space' I mean the sense that characters could go out of that scene, but staying in that setting: like White House in X2.

In First Class I have the feeling that some of scenes are stagse where you cannot go out without end in production.

I don't say that that feeling was so bad like in Wolverine Origins that is the worst.

 

[psylockolussus]

Singer had his chance and personal speaking, I don't want someone with so many bad allegations (true or not) be attached in an upcoming X-Men film. Like I was willing to give him one more chance after Apocalypse, but he didn't even return to direct the sequel and after that, these allegations came out again.

 

[Silvermoth]

Yeah to be honest I'm a bit ashamed of that response here. Of course someone like singer or rather should be disqualified. It's not like either of them we're talking during a movie or something. They have both done some pretty horrible stuff.

For a movie about the xmen which is about hope and a brighter tomorrow you should hope for someone who can handle that without being gross. It's not like they're the only two directors in Hollywood. There are tons of people who deserve a go more than people with a history of harassment and abuse