The Force Awakens Daisy Ridley as Rey - Part 2

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I was almost tempted to pick up the Rey's survival guide book...is it worth it? I always wondered about the rebel helmet and who the pilot was...although, I knew just what you posted like a month ago. Very interesting stuff. I can't wait until we learn more about Rey's origins. :)

I really like it. I picked mine up at Wal Mart for around $8.50 and I think it's worth it. If your a fast reader you could more than likely get through it in a hour or two. I bought it just because it was Rey merch not really expecting much considering it's a Young Readers book but I found my self not being able to put it down. There is way more interesting stuff in this book that I ever expected that expands on what we know from the movie/novelization and it even gives you more info on villages like Lor San Tekka live in.
 
Pablo Hidalgo said:
Also, why leave out Rey Porkins' last name in the credits?

https://mobile.***********/pablohidalgo/status/677398799975755776

I think people forget how much #StarWars movies don't actually tell. Tattooine isn't named until the end of Empire.
Pablo Hidalgo said:
And Leia's last name was never said. HEEEYYYY. Maybe she's a SKYWALKER!

https://mobile.***********/pablohidalgo/status/677963155247599624

Pablo Hidalgo said:
What if Rey is a Crawley?

https://mobile.***********/pablohidalgo/status/682724024158310401

What is a Crawley? -> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downton_Abbey

As a fan, I am disappointed that Luke Star Wars is hardly even in the new Star Wars.
Pablo Hidalgo said:
Do you think Rey Star Wars is Luke Star Wars' daughter?

https://mobile.***********/pablohidalgo/status/685656225040609280

Rey stabs a lot. Kylo slashes down hard and heavy a lot. Almost like their fighting styles match their personalities.
Pablo Hidalgo said:
also congrats on unlocking Rey's last name, Stabsalot.

https://mobile.***********/pablohidalgo/status/690565924219289600

"Don't cite tweets as canon." Is this because at most extra SW info is more a best guess/opinion and not necessarily factual?
Pablo Hidalgo said:
No, it's that I don't want to see a Wookieepedia article with some joke tweet of mine as a citation.

https://mobile.***********/pablohidalgo/status/680592137658843137
 
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Star Wars The Force Awakens: Rey's Story
By: Elizabeth Schaefer
Publisher: Disney Lucasfilm Press
Imprint: Disney Lucasfilm Press
On Sale: Feb. 16, 2016

Rey never thought she would leave the desert planet of Jakku, but her life is turned upside down when she meets BB-8, a small droid with a big secret. Like it or not, Rey is about to be caught up in something much larger than herself: a galactic war between the evil First Order and the fledgling Resistance. But something is awakening inside of Rey, something that might turn the tides of fortune in the galaxy. . . .

https://www.hachettebookgroup.biz/t...s-the-force-awakens-reys-story/9781484774090/
 
Deadline - ‘Star Wars’ Daisy Ridley Becomes ‘Eagle Huntress’ Exec Producer – Sundance

http://deadline.com/2016/01/star-wa...e-huntress-sundance-film-festival-1201687900/

The Hollywood Reporter - Sundance: Sony Pictures Classics Nabs Daisy Ridley-Backed Film 'The Eagle Huntress'

The film also benefits from some Star Wars star power, as Daisy Ridley recently came onboard as an executive producer and will narrate for English audiences.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/sundance-sony-pictures-classics-nabs-858843

Deadline - Sony Pictures Classics Lands ‘The Eagle Huntress’; Sundance Docu Soars To Animated Feature With ‘Star Wars’ Daisy Ridley

At the same time, several companies are negotiating for the right to turn the story of 13-year-old Aisholpan Nurgaiv and her eagle into an animated feature, and Ridley will provide the voice for the young heroine. CAA brokered the deal for the docu, and will make the deal for the animated feature.

http://deadline.com/2016/02/the-eag...ature-star-wars-the-force-awakens-1201694060/
 
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What if JJ casted Daisy in another movie. I know it's not the right uniform.
 
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Luke doesn't wear robes in the OT actually. And Obi Wan's robes were because he lives in the desert. Heck Owen Lars wears something similar, and the Jawas, and some people at Mos Eisley, etc.
Anakin's force ghost had them and Yoda kind of had the same kind of clothes too. I would like to see something else personally.
 
Luke doesn't wear robes in the OT actually. And Obi Wan's robes were because he lives in the desert. Heck Owen Lars wears something similar, and the Jawas, and some people at Mos Eisley, etc.

Those aren't robes. Robes are the whole outfit. Luke wears the cloak and tunic over his actual suit, which is why they aren't there later.

Obi Wan's robes were not because of the desert. They are distinctly different from those worn by Uncle Owen or the Jawas. Obi-Wan's attire has greater formality and layering that is drawn from real world Samurai attire. The Tatoonie residents do not have that, but Darth Vader does with his Sith "robes" (for lack of a better term) and his armour pretty substantially evoking Samurai armor. Saying that Obi-Wan wasn't wearing Jedi robes in ANH and that it was retcon is patently false. It's like saying the samurai and the peasants in Seven Samurai are dressed the same because they all wear Japanese-style robe-based clothing.

I have to disagree with Darth in that I have always seen Luke's full ensemble in ROTJ, including the cloak and overtunic, as being essentially Jedi robes. Yes, he has a more militaristic undershirt with the Nehru collar (which he has carried over to his TFA robes) and he doesn't have the robe between the over tunic and the undershirt, but it still creates the same visual, except younger and more athletic and with some elements meant to evoke a darker influence from his father.
 
Obi Wan's robes were not because of the desert. They are distinctly different from those worn by Uncle Owen or the Jawas. Obi-Wan's attire has greater formality and layering that is drawn from real world Samurai attire. The Tatoonie residents do not have that, but Darth Vader does with his Sith "robes" (for lack of a better term) and his armour pretty substantially evoking Samurai armor. Saying that Obi-Wan wasn't wearing Jedi robes in ANH and that it was retcon is patently false. It's like saying the samurai and the peasants in Seven Samurai are dressed the same because they all wear Japanese-style robe-based clothing.
So Obi-Wan hide in Jedi robes? That doesn't quite make sense. It was totally retcon and the general look of those living in the desert is strikingly similar to Old Ben.

I have to disagree with Darth in that I have always seen Luke's full ensemble in ROTJ, including the cloak and overtunic, as being essentially Jedi robes. Yes, he has a more militaristic undershirt with the Nehru collar (which he has carried over to his TFA robes) and he doesn't have the robe between the over tunic and the undershirt, but it still creates the same visual, except younger and more athletic and with some elements meant to evoke a darker influence from his father.
It is not an undershirt, it is the main suit. Having a similar visual doesn't suddenly make what Luke is wearing robes. Though personally considering everything we know about it, it really does seem that was suppose to be the Jedi uniform, which is why it has a military look to it. Remember, it was General Kenobi.
 
So Obi-Wan hide in Jedi robes? That doesn't quite make sense. It was totally retcon and the general look of those living in the desert is strikingly similar to Old Ben.

I don't find what the others are wearing in ANH strikingly similar to Old Ben's apparel at all, other than a general Eastern influence. You need to check out the concept art for General Kenobi, all iterations of the design have a strong Samurai influence. The Samurai elements (the sleeveless overtunic and waist wrapping) are found in Ben's and Vader's costumes alone and are missing from the other Tatoonie robes, which are much more basic and feature shorter tunics under the overrobe. Granted, it might have been that the dark brown overrobe was meant to be a generic Tatoonie garment that Obi-Wan hides his Jedi "uniform" underneath. But the style of the beige garments underneath are clearly different and meant to be Jedi/Sith in nature as seen by the Samurai influence and commonalty with the sleeveless overtunic worn by Vader over his armor. Yes, hiding in Jedi robes doesn't make a ton of sense, but that doesn't negate the clear design intention. However, I will say that this is a prequel problem. The OT suggested that the Jedi were not well-known or easily identifiable in the hinges of the outer rim. Look how Luke knew nothing of them and Han's skepticism of the Force.

With respect to your comments about Luke's ROTJ costume, you are being a little ridiculous about word choice. Yes, it is not technically "robes" or an undershirt (I just used that to clarify that I am talking about the element of the costume closest to the skin in a costume with multiple layers). None of that has any bearing though because we are both in agreement that it was supposed to be a Jedi uniform.
 
Pablo Hidalgo said:
Didn’t realize that my two tweets would fuel such insight or analysis. So here is an answer: Yes, the human leads [in Star Wars Rebels] are all multiracial. Neither the subject matter nor the reactions of any online communities give me pause in stating as much.

http://eleven-thirtyeight.com/2014/02/rebels-kanan-jarrus-and-the-race-factor/

Andi Gutierrez: Is Sabine's father Obi-Wan Kenobi? And is Rey Sabine's daughter with Ezra?
Pablo Hidalgo: <shakes head> No.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUDBalyxxCg&t=3m48s
 
I don't find what the others are wearing in ANH strikingly similar to Old Ben's apparel at all, other than a general Eastern influence. You need to check out the concept art for General Kenobi, all iterations of the design have a strong Samurai influence. The Samurai elements (the sleeveless overtunic and waist wrapping) are found in Ben's and Vader's costumes alone and are missing from the other Tatoonie robes, which are much more basic and feature shorter tunics under the overrobe. Granted, it might have been that the dark brown overrobe was meant to be a generic Tatoonie garment that Obi-Wan hides his Jedi "uniform" underneath. But the style of the beige garments underneath are clearly different and meant to be Jedi/Sith in nature as seen by the Samurai influence and commonalty with the sleeveless overtunic worn by Vader over his armor. Yes, hiding in Jedi robes doesn't make a ton of sense, but that doesn't negate the clear design intention. However, I will say that this is a prequel problem. The OT suggested that the Jedi were not well-known or easily identifiable in the hinges of the outer rim. Look how Luke knew nothing of them and Han's skepticism of the Force.

I'm basically on the same page here. I know it's not unintentional that Obi-Wan's clothing evokes eastern samurai and classic wizard archetypes, nor is it coincidental that the garb that Yoda, ghost Anakin, and Jedi Luke wear share design elements. Those things are codified in the visual language of what a Jedi knight is. The fact that the prequels mishandled those ideas by making the robes too uniform and bland doesn't diminish the salience of the original idea. So I don't admonish Luke wearing those traditional robes and I wouldn't be surprised if Rey eventually sports a tunic by trilogy's end.
 

What if JJ casted Daisy in another movie. I know it's not the right uniform.

I'm glad he didn't because then it would've taken me longer to take notice of this awesome lady. :woot:
 
I know it's unlikely but, am I the only one who would find it more interesting if Rey was not related to any of the major characters?
 
That would be like revealing in TESB that Luke is related to some character the audience has never heard of or seen.

The reason the twist in Empire works is that the character he is related to has already been established to the audience in a major way in the previous movie (Vader in ANH). Ditto for ROTJ (Leia had two movies to get the audience into her character). Abrams said the reason that the twist in Empire worked so well is that the relationship between Luke and Vader from ANH was allowed to simmer in the minds of the audience for a couple of years before the reveal.

J. J. Abrams said:
It&#8217;s very easy to love &#8220;I am your father.&#8221; But when you think about how and when and where that came, I&#8217;m not sure that even Star Wars itself could have supported that story point had it existed in the first film, Episode IV. Meaning: It was a massively powerful, instantly classic moment in movie history, but it was only possible because it stood on the shoulders of the film that came before it. There had been a couple of years to allow the idea of Darth Vader to sink in, to let him emerge as one of the greatest movie villains ever. Time built up everyone&#8217;s expectations about the impending conflict between Luke and Vader. If &#8220;I am your father&#8221; had been in the first film, I don&#8217;t know if it would have had the resonance. I actually don&#8217;t know if it would have worked.

The story of Rey the character with new parents could have been easily told in Episode VII by showing them and their new faces in Episode VII. They didn't do that at all. I could have written it that way myself - and it helps to not have brought back the old cast in major roles to accomplish a goal like that. Or by skipping well ahead in the timeline, not just 30 years later. Which they did do the opposite by giving them major roles.

Colin Trevorrow said that the reveal of Rey's heritage (whenever that happens) will be "deeply and profoundly satisfying," and that he's concerned about Episode IX tying in really well with the entire Saga. "By the time we get to Episode IX, I look at that movie as one movie, as three movies, as six movies, and as nine movies. It's something that needs to honor a story that has been told over a period of 40 years." Kathleen Kennedy has really pushed the idea that this is still the Skywalker family saga story, and that the Anthology / "A Star Wars Story" films are for the non-Skywalker stories.
 
See I think that you COULD make that work, but you'd be making more work for yourselves from a writing perspective. If she's related to a known character, be it Luke or Han/Leia, or whomever, then there's already a built in audience connection because you have beloved old characters and a new one who's already become really popular in her own right. So the audience has an investment in that dynamic, plus there's intriguing questions as to how she ended up living as a poor scavenger on Jakku all alone is she is related to them? It's a question that the audience would be interested to see answered.

Whereas if you make her related to no one that we know, especially if you then reveal that her parents are dead, you've made more work for yourself. Because you have characters that:

-We've never met before.

-We have no real reason to care about.

-You apparently decided to kill off offscreen BEFORE the film even begins.

-Etc.

So you have to work all the harder to make that dynamic compelling. Especially since there'd probably be a lot of audience members who'd be annoyed that you dragged out the "reveal" for so long, and threw in all of the references/teases to Luke and Anakin, only to them go "well actually, she's not related to them at all, made you look."
 
Anyone heard of starwars news net.com ? I joined the cantina forum...it's a good site and I probably will spend more time there than here. If you happen to be there too you can find me as Ulic_Korien.
 
Oh can you just imagine her nerves? She seemed rather self-conscious about her performance in the lead up to TFA's release. And she's like 23, it's her first big film role and she's playing the main hero in the new SW trilogy, and now she'll be presenting THE big acting award and standing up in front of Hollywood's elite during a ceremony that TONS of people will also watch on TV.


Quite the step up for a young woman who was working as a waitress before she got the role.
 
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