Ant-Man Dammit, Janet! The official Wasp thread

[Moridin]

Whoever gets picked to play the Wondrous Wasp, I hope they get it spot on.

Who of the available thespians will be able to become an excitable ball of energy, a fashionista and a fighter, a funny gal, but also potentially even a (temporary) leader in personality?

Thus I don't envy the one who has to make the final decision.

In the meantime, here's a hella stylish pic of Janet (by Frank Cho)...

I still like Autumn Resser for the part.

Or Missy Peregrym.

Or Ellen Wong (Knives Chau from Scott Pilgrim).

 

[Dark Raven]

Autumn Reeser is my top choice for Janet. She looks the part and has the personality already.

 

[Hawkingbird]

What would people think of her being a fashion designer? I personally wouldn't like it. It draws away from her as a superhero in my opinion.

 

[chamber-music]

I would prefer that Janet's day job was running her fathers company after he died. She could have an intrest in fashion and be a fashionista without being a designer although it would be cool to see her designing her costume like Tony does in Iron Man.

 

[cherokeesam]

What would people think of her being a fashion designer? I personally wouldn't like it. It draws away from her as a superhero in my opinion.

Why? Peter Parker is a newspaper photographer, and it doesn't detract from his heroism. I like the notion that you don't always have to be a soldier or a super-genius scientist to become a hero.

 

[Dark Raven]

Jan can own a fashion empire. She can have an input in some of the designs but it's not like she's some poor factory worker. In fact, even in the comics she's a very wealthy heiress and it's because she chooses to design clothing that she does it, not that she needs to. I don't see it takes away from her heroism. It makes her more of a normal person than having to be purely an agent or scientist, which gets boring.

 

[Mr. Dent]

Yeah they can set the character ups as a fashion designer without taking anything away from her.

 

[Marathon]

Hmm, Colleen O'Shaughnessey, the voice actress for Janet on A:EMH, would actually also kind of look the part. (A perhaps more mature version , but nevertheless.)

Anyway, I hope they search extensively for the right choice. "Safe choices" should only be a last resort, lol.

Don't want another miscasting after Cobie's Robin-Maria Hill-Scherbatsky...

 

[Dark Raven]

Hmm, Colleen O'Shaughnessey, the voice actress for Janet on A:EMH, would actually also kind of look the part. (A perhaps more mature version , but nevertheless.)

Anyway, I hope they search extensively for the right choice. "Safe choices" should only be a last resort, lol.

Don't want another miscasting after Cobie's Robin-Maria Hill-Scherbatsky...

Colleen O'Shaughnessey is a bit on the fat side for Jan.

And Cobie didn't turn out to be a safe choice but an unsafe choice. Sometimes trying to cast too outside the box is the wrong decision. Morena Baccarin might've been the fan choice and the "safe" one too, but she would've definitely been better than Cobie.

 

[Marathon]

I didn't elaborate that properly... what I meant was safe as in you know you'll get it somewhat right, but perhaps not exactly. Kunis for example would be this kind of choice.

Ditto for Baccarin as Maria Hill (who of course still would've been a lot better than Smulders).

However, that doesn't mean I'm encouraging improper or unwise unsafe choices. Ledger was an "unsafe", but stellar choice. What if there was a "safe choice" there instead? It wouldn't have worked out as well, I think.

Perhaps a better wording is getting the "exact" fitting choice for the role, whether it's safe or unsafe. RDJ IS Tony Stark, for example. And he was (I guess) an "unsafe" choice. Smulders IS 100% NOT (lol) Maria Hill. She was (I guess) an "unsafe" choice.

Still, my argument kind of stays the same: try and find the exact fitting thespian. If not available/findable, fall back on a "safe choice".

 

[Xeno]

What would people think of her being a fashion designer? I personally wouldn't like it. It draws away from her as a superhero in my opinion.

To me being a fashion designer would make Jan even more heroic. Imagine someone like Stella McCartney or Vera Wang going from designing haute couture during her working hours to fighting Thanos, Ultron, et al. with the Avengers on the side. Given that most people would picture a designer being an delicate person who would be more likely to run screaming than suit up and kick ass like a hero, I think the juxtaposition would work brilliantly.

 

[Ant-manic]

Why? Peter Parker is a newspaper photographer, and it doesn't detract from his heroism. I like the notion that you don't always have to be a soldier or a super-genius scientist to become a hero.

Peter is a super genius.

 

[cherokeesam]

Peter is a super genius.

But not a *scientist.* He's just an ordinary blue-collar schmoe; that's what makes his rise to superheroism so appealing. Unlike the guys who've been handed riches and greatness all their life, like Tony Stark or Thor.

 

[Ant-manic]

But not a *scientist.* He's just an ordinary blue-collar schmoe; that's what makes his rise to superheroism so appealing. Unlike the guys who've been handed riches and greatness all their life, like Tony Stark or Thor.

but keep in mind that Spider-man, within the cinematic universe, isn't on the same level as the Avengers. the Avengers are recruited by a militaristic organization. that's why Barton's an assassin instead of a carnival act. i promise you that Sam Wilson will have some kind of SHIELD or military background. they aren't really accepting civilians unless they can Hulk out or "privatize world peace."

what i'm saying is that there's nothing wrong with Jan being a designer. but i think her also being a recruit of SHIELD is mutually exclusive. works fine if they are unaffiliated.

 

[Hawkingbird]

I always thought Cobie was a good Hill . She didn't have an enormous amount of screen time (quite rightly, as she isn't an Avenger), so her character wasn't developed much.
I would be happy with an "unknown" actress as Jan. To be honest, I just want way more female superheroes in the Marvel lineup. So far they've done so much right, but the under-representation of women in the MMU (Marvel Studios) is disgraceful.

 

[J'adore]

If only Olivia Munn could act....I mean she's not awful, but I can't see pleasing the masses of Jan fans out there. Nevertheless, if she were to take more acting classes or something I'd love for her to be cast.

Also, is it just me who kind of likes the idea of a younger Jan...She can fill out the MPDG role on The Avengers and be Hank's 'quirky' partner.

 

[J'adore]

I would be happy with an "unknown" actress as Jan. To be honest, I just want way more female superheroes in the Marvel lineup. So far they've done so much right, but the under-representation of women in the MMU (Marvel Studios) is disgraceful.

Which is why I honestly don't mind these rumours about the Stephanie (forgot her last name) actress being Janet in IM3

 

[InternetPeople]

Szostak. And she's not Jan.

 

[chamber-music]

I would be happy with an "unknown" actress as Jan. To be honest, I just want way more female superheroes in the Marvel lineup. So far they've done so much right, but the under-representation of women in the MMU (Marvel Studios) is disgraceful.

I think you have to be patient as more female heroes are coming.
Marvel Studios has only been active for 6 years and opperate a two movie a year policy (except Ant-Man because its been sitting in development for years).

Marvel wanted to get the origin movies for some of the key avengers out the way first. Lady Sif's role will be bigger in Thor 2 and Pepper

Spoiler

will be wearing a iron man suit in iron man 3

. Gamora will be in GoTG, Black Widow back in Cap 2 and Wasp will hopefully show up in Avengers 2/Ant-Man or both.

Ms Marvel will probably get her own movie or show up in another characters or show up in phase 3 as well I would bet. Scarlet Witch may show up by the time they get to Avengers 3.

I don't think that women will be under-representated.

 

[Hawkingbird]

I think you have to be patient as more female heroes are coming.
Marvel Studios has only been active for 6 years and opperate a two movie a year policy (except Ant-Man because its been sitting in development for years).

Marvel wanted to get the origin movies for some of the key avengers out the way first. Lady Sif's role will be bigger in Thor 2 and Pepper

Spoiler

will be wearing a iron man suit in iron man 3

. Gamora will be in GoTG, Black Widow back in Cap 2 and Wasp will hopefully show up in Avengers 2/Ant-Man or both.

Ms Marvel will probably get her own movie or show up in another characters or show up in phase 3 as well I would bet. Scarlet Witch may show up by the time they get to Avengers 3.

I don't think that women will be under-representated.

[BLACKOUT]It annoys me that so many people are against Rescue . And it's easy for you to say it's okay, it's not your sex being underrepresented .[/BLACKOUT]

 

[InternetPeople]

[BLACKOUT]Rescue[/BLACKOUT] sucks because it is a crappy character, not because it's a female character.

 

[jaqua99]

Say what you want about casting, but I think the role is tailor-made for Zooey:

There's really nobody else out there who totally embodies Janet's manic pixie dream girl image. If Marvel casts her, it will be a stroke of pure genius.

bringing it bcak up, but I think this is perfect

 

[Ant-manic]

New Girl would be a decent show if she were not in it. can't stand that "actress"/"singer."

 

[cherokeesam]

[BLACKOUT]Rescue[/BLACKOUT] sucks because it is a crappy character, not because it's a female character.

Exactly. Comic-book Rescue gets a ton of fan-hate because it was a ****ty character arc. Pepper gets the arc reactor, basically copies Iron Man origin story, goes on to become an actual honest-to-god superheroine and part of the Avenger Initiative. Completely unoriginal, unimaginative, and an insult to both Pepper Potts and to Tony Stark. It's the sort of thing classic DC would do --- make a "____ Woman/Girl" and "____ Boy/Kid" version of any character that gets any sort of popularity at all. "Yay, It's IRON WOMAN! And soon they'll be proud parents of KID IRON BOY, JR.!"

I've got no problem with the way she's presented in IM3, though. It's just Tony's armor, and he briefly claps her into it via Extremis telekinetics to keep her safe during the Malibu mansion attack (and maybe the AIM HQ battle). None of that arc reactor and "superheroine" bull****.

Give us the REAL Marvel superheroines, not the secretaries who sleep their way into the limelight.

 

[Hawkingbird]

[BLACKOUT]Rescue[/BLACKOUT] sucks because it is a crappy character, not because it's a female character.

In your opinion, I think she's awesome.