I just do it for back ups or out of print stuff, once it comes out in trade i'm down the store. I like to keep my comics in good condition so I read it once, bag it, then I download it for when I want to read it again. Completely legal since I already own the issues/trades
it's hard for me to take seriously the opinions of greg rucka in this instance. for one, we're talking about the livlihoods of people. to me, it's like britney spears crying about how hard life is. sometimes, it's just hard for a person to see the negatives of something when they're not really in the position to feel the negatives; you know?
But that's assuming comic downloading automatically looses money for people.
Heck, while I'm not a fan of Slott, if discovered his stuff like I discovered X-Factor, comic downloading could have actually given him more money and readership.
I just do it for back ups or out of print stuff, once it comes out in trade i'm down the store. I like to keep my comics in good condition so I read it once, bag it, then I download it for when I want to read it again. Completely legal since I already own the issues/trades
I've started doing that, because its not about the condition, its just a pain in the ass to get my longboxes out, look for the issue open the issue, read the issue, reseal the issue in in its bag and put everything back. I need those drawer longboxes.
But that's assuming comic downloading automatically looses money for people.
Heck, while I'm not a fan of Slott, if discovered his stuff like I discovered X-Factor, comic downloading could have actually given him more money and readership.
But that's assuming comic downloading automatically looses money for people.
Heck, while I'm not a fan of Slott, if discovered his stuff like I discovered X-Factor, comic downloading could have actually given him more money and readership.
it's not assuming that downloading comics loses money for people, it's assuming that low selling comics lose money for people. that assumption is a fact. and that's exactly what dan slott was trying to get across.
it stands to reason that if you download a comic instead of buying it, someone's losing money from it.
it's not assuming that downloading comics loses money for people, it's assuming that low selling comics lose money for people. that assumption is a fact. and that's exactly what dan slott was trying to get across.
and again, i don't think he is. i think he's making the point that it's better to not download comics than to have some people download and buy and some people just download.
Dan has stated that he would be first in line to buy those series if DVD collections come out. Personally, I believe him, because thats exactly what I did when Pete and Pete came out on DVD and I deleted my downloaded files.
and again, i don't think he is. i think he's making the point that it's better to not download comics than to have some people download and buy and some people just download.
Yeah, but my opinion doesn't get plastered on every comic book related site out there. Look, I think its cool what he's trying to do, I want She-Hulk to succeed thats why I along with others recommend it to everyone who comes on here. But, it pretty much cheapens his stance when he partakes in the same practices.
I found it hilarious that I'm reading this while downloading music.
Anyways, I'm with the "like it, buy it" policy myself. If something is good, I'll do my best to track it down. Sites like LiveJournal give me snippets of whats good and whats utter crap. If its so-so, I just dl it and delete later.
Yeah, but my opinion doesn't get plastered on every comic book related site out there. Look, I think its cool what he's trying to do, I want She-Hulk to succeed thats why I along with others recommend it to everyone who comes on here. But, it pretty much cheapens his stance when he partakes in the same practices.
just because the messanger might not be as honest as we'd like, that doesn't change the fact that right now, downloading comics probably is hurting the industry more than helping it. it's simple logic and common sense, really.
marvel and dc (and image and dark horse) would really stand to benefit from making comics downloadable upon release. if you just think about how much they'd make if they offered full issues for $.25 or something. i for one would download everything i wasn't currently picking up just to stay current with everything.
the real question, however remains to be seen: how will this effect the retailer? i think this might be what's making marvel shuffle it's feet about this whole process. it's such an unprecedented thing, that i think they're trying their damndest to soften the blow as much as they can...if there'll even be a blow to soften. it really is a strange new concept, and there's not really anything to compare it to. it's not like cd's are something that must be held to enjoy. at the end of the day, the music itself is what sells, so if it's digital, who cares anymore? comics is and always has been a different beast.
I haven't ever downloaded any comics. But that said I would download one if I wanted to see what it was like and couldn't browse through said issue in my store. I wouldn't ever download a comic in place of buying one.
I'm not a collector. I will buy TPB's of comics i've immensely enjoyed (Watchmen, Sandman, Kraven's Last Hunt). I buy Spider-Girl to boost the sales. I prefer holding a comic in my hand than scrolling through a .CBR but the difference is negligible.
If i couldn't download comic books, I wouldn't read them at all. The fact that I occasionally buy titles that interest me (CW, 52, Spider-Girl, Any mention of Ben Reilly in a comic...) is more money in Marvel and DC's pockets.
Comics are not my life and if I couldn't download them anymore, then I wouldn't read them.
In a somewhat related note, I'm a musician and my band experiences more positives from internet downloading rather than negatives.
CD's are so expensive that people only buy stuff that they know they're gonna like and are less likely to take a chance on something they're less familiar with especially when they can download it all for free. I'd rather have a packed venue where the kids all know the words to my songs from illegal downloading especially when my CD hasn't hit their area yet. At least they cared enough to want to listen, memorize the lyrics, go to the shows and buy the merch.
I understand the importance of supporting quality products. But it's harder and harder to find in the comic industry (imo). I get so ****ing pissed when I buy an issue of Amazing Spider-Man (my 2nd favorite character, guess the first t and I find out that Spidey got in some lame fight with a lame villain (insert bubble gum ad here) and goes home to MJ. Why would I pay money for that!??! I'd NEVER pay money to read sub-par, ad-filled, decompressed, serialized storytelling *cough*Bendis*cough*.
That's why TV is ****ing FREE. They make their money from all the ****ing ads we're forced to sit through. The DVD sales are just gravy. Why pay 3.50 to find out that Peter Parker is funny, MJ always wears lingerie, and Spidey kicks average villian butt when I can watch the NBC (and Jeph Loeb) smash hit, Heroes, for FREE with my friends and girlfriend. I can even get excited about characters, plots, and subplots in a *GASP* culturally accepted manner.
But nooooo, I enjoy my favorite childhood characters so much that I sit in front of my computer scrolling through a .CBR that i downloaded from an illegal torrent and chat on this message board with you lovely, lovely people.
You know....I should probably just quit comics....
just because the messanger might not be as honest as we'd like, that doesn't change the fact that right now, downloading comics probably is hurting the industry more than helping it. it's simple logic and common sense, really.
There's nothing in the constitution that says you have a right to a DVD collection. The person who owns those rights is just as injured as Dan or anyone else.
No that person is uninjured in this particular example.
The argument against d/l is that you are not buying and therefore the person who owns the rights is losing a sale and the money.
If the dvd is unavailable to buy in your country and you d/l the owner is not losing the money because they never offered it for sale to you in the first place.
No that person is uninjured in this particular example.
The argument against d/l is that you are not buying and therefore the person who owns the rights is losing a sale and the money.
If the dvd is unavailable to buy in your country and you d/l the owner is not losing the money because they never offered it for sale to you in the first place.
True, which is why I have no problem with downloading tv shows like that. Now, if he's downloading last night's episode of Prison Break or something, thats a horse of different color.
Nickelodeon needs to release Salute Your Shorts on DVD damnit!
Just because someone is a hypocrite doesn't make what they actually preach wrong.
Its a horribly political type of debating to ignore what the person says in favour slighting the person.
Actually one could argue those who have done wrong in the first place are actually in the best position to give advice (thinking of drug users here...)
I disagree with this part. If it's last night's tv show and you missed one episode of a series of 23, I think that's a great use for downloading. For me that's no different to using media centre/tivo
I watch it once delete it and then carry on watching the show at the normal time th following week
I disagree with this part. If it's last night's tv show and you missed one episode of a series of 23, I think that's a great use for downloading. For me that's no different to using media centre/tivo
I watch it once delete it and then carry on watching the show at the normal time th following week
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and I find out that Spidey got in some lame fight with a lame villain (insert bubble gum ad here) and goes home to MJ. Why would I pay money for that!??! I'd NEVER pay money to read sub-par, ad-filled, decompressed, serialized storytelling *cough*Bendis*cough*. 
