Justice League Danny Elfman Scoring Justice League - Part 1

[STARMAN]

It's a couple of JW notes in a two hour movie. It's harmless. It's not like the entire original score has been lifted and placed upon the film.

 

[Da-Scribe]

I feel like people don't understand that those of us who want to see Zimmer/Junkie's work remain aren't asking for Elfman to do a cut and paste job. We're just saying, don't scrap the in-universe themes just to incorporate old bits of nostalgia. Elfman can do his own thing while still incorporating what is already there.

I'm not even mad about using these old ass themes. I just don't think they deserve prominence over the existing themes for these characters.

 

[STARMAN]

I'm expecting the Zimmer MOS and WW theme to make an appearance.

 

[ConnorKon-El]

I'm going to be bum-bum-bum-bum-bummmed if Batman's BvS theme isn't in the movie

You're going to be super bummed then.

 

[Zur-en-Arrh]

You're going to be super bummed then.

...not if in its place the Batman '66 theme roars in all its glory as the Batmobile bursts out of the Flying Fox and into the heart of battle...

 

[Limonade]

You're misunderstanding me. I'm not saying Elfman should copy every single thing Zimmer and Junkie did. By his own accord he should create his own original content, but also finding a balance between utilizing the motifs of old and the motifs of new.

I see your point then. Honestly, it's his call in the end.

I haven't seen many Composers in his position asking to bridge two motifs together.

I mean Elfman has managed to add his own take to Silvestri's Avengers score for "The Week of Ultron". But that's him on other's work that did not originate from Elfman himself.

But in regards to Batman, his score is just as iconic and to mix it up with Zimmer or Junkie... I dunno. I'd have to hear it.

But make no mistake if it sounds like I think it'll sounds... Elfman's gothic Batman may overshadow Zimmers or Junkie's score.

It's recognizable... and there's somewhere inside of me that's curious to see if he has anything more to add to his classic score given the nearly 30 years he had to ferment new ideas and concept.

 

[BH/HHH]

I'm expecting the Zimmer MOS and WW theme to make an appearance.

I 100% think they will

 

[matt47]

Well...sounds like my fears have come true. I really don't think Elfman is bringing back the MoS score.
The tracks I've listen to sound 30 ****ing years old and generic as hell. They really are trying their hardest to make this a marvel movie and kill my hype huh.

And please...dont anyone dare even think about replying to me saying something like, "calm down, youve only heard a couple of tracks. The mos theme will be there."
Just don't...I don't want to be banned.

 

[Da-Scribe]

Well...sounds like my fears have come true. I really don't think Elfman is bringing back the MoS score.
The tracks I've listen to sound 30 ****ing years old and generic as hell. They really are trying their hardest to make this a marvel movie and kill my hype huh.

And please...dont anyone dare even think about replying to me saying something like, "calm down, youve only heard a couple of tracks. The mos theme will be there."
Just don't...I don't want to be banned.

All I will say is this. I really don't think they're trying to make a Marvel film. Do I think they're applying some of what has made the MCU successful? Yes. But that began the moment WB decided to create a shared universe. The MCU ain't the only successful universe though. The Fox/X-Men universe is flourishing as well and I think some important lessons can be learned from them as well, especially since they literally kicked off the CBM craze.

Ultimately though, I won't try to make you any promises since I know as much as you do. But I think in terms of the overall tone here, it won't be the old DCEU. But it won't be the MCU either.

 

[matt47]

All I will say is this. I really don't think they're trying to make a Marvel film. Do I think they're applying some of what has made the MCU successful? Yes. But that began the moment WB decided to create a shared universe. The MCU ain't the only successful universe though. The Fox/X-Men universe is flourishing as well and I think some important lessons can be learned from them as well, especially since they literally kicked off the CBM craze.

Ultimately though, I won't try to make you any promises since I know as much as you do. But I think in terms of the overall tone here, it won't be the old DCEU. But it won't be the MCU either.

Yes but you know what the two things are that are unsuccessful at marvel? The scores and quippy villains. And it seems like they took both and smacked it right into this movie.

 

[KillerWolf]

Yes but you know what the two things are that are unsuccessful at marvel? The scores and quippy villains. And it seems like they took both and smacked it right into this movie.

I haven't heard any quips from Steppy so far.

But I'll also be greatly disappointed if we don't get to hear any of Zimmer's MOS tracks, as it goes past simply liking them - it is an important part of establishing continuity between the films.

 

[STARMAN]

I'd be disappointed too.

Track listings 2 and 17 are where I want Elfman to deliver.

 

[Limonade]

I haven't heard any quips from Steppy so far.

But I'll also be greatly disappointed if we don't get to hear any of Zimmer's MOS tracks, as it goes past simply liking them - it is an important part of establishing continuity between the films.

I heard a quip from Steppy in the latest TV Spots. Not going to post that in here. But it's on YouTube.

Actually it's in the SHH main page.

 

[matt47]

I heard a quip from Steppy in the latest TV Spots. Not going to post that in here. But it's on YouTube.

Actually it's in the SHH main page.

This. For a second I though Ultron was on the screen.

 

[ZackBop]

I bet Clark's "piano theme" appears in the "Home" track. That almost certainly the Kent Farm scene from the trailer. But I don't think we're getting Zimmer's "Superman theme" (which really only appeared during the credits for MoS). I think Elfman is more likely to use his own theme and perhaps have it call back to JW's theme.

 

[KillerWolf]

I heard a quip from Steppy in the latest TV Spots. Not going to post that in here. But it's on YouTube.

Actually it's in the SHH main page.

Ah, that line. I don't really see it as a quip, but I can understand why some would.

 

[The Guard]

I think it's pretty solid stuff so far. It's very "throwback" even beyond the use of familiar themes, which is exciting in itself. It's going to set the mood nicely.

The use of the Williams theme is so "blink and you'll miss it" that it hardly matters.

Anyone else hear bits of Ottman's SUPERMAN RETURNS approach?

As for "generic", everything is generic. Zimmer and Junxie's drums and electronics ounds aren't any less generic, just more modern.

 

[matt47]

Ah, that line. I don't really see it as a quip, but I can understand why some would.

It just feels like something Ultron would say...that's all.

 

[KillerWolf]

It just feels like something Ultron would say...that's all.

Saw only bits of AoU a while ago in a more or less crowded pub, so I can't really make a comparison.

 

[Legendver2]

All I will say is this. I really don't think they're trying to make a Marvel film. Do I think they're applying some of what has made the MCU successful? Yes. But that began the moment WB decided to create a shared universe. The MCU ain't the only successful universe though. The Fox/X-Men universe is flourishing as well and I think some important lessons can be learned from them as well, especially since they literally kicked off the CBM craze.

Ultimately though, I won't try to make you any promises since I know as much as you do. But I think in terms of the overall tone here, it won't be the old DCEU. But it won't be the MCU either.

Except Fox never had a film hit the magical B, something WB desperately wants to stay competitive to Marvel right now

 

[MrGamer2558]

I didn't see that Steppenwolf line as a quip, but whatever.

 

[Pennywise]

Heroes was alright, but I thoughts Friend or Foe was pretty cool!

 

[Legendver2]

See, for me, it’s not just another theme. It’s a huge part of who the character is. Not including it is like not having the S shield.

Yeah, by all means up date it to 2017, but without it, it just feels like something is missing.

And the pop it’ll get from old and young in the audience, if it’s in there properly, will be huge.



If used at the right time, it’ll blow the ****ing doors off, trust me. Zimmer’s theme is good, but it doesn’t have that power.

Again that's still a personal preference thing. I hated the old Superman theme because it reminds me of how unrealistic and corny Superman was during the 70s. Zimmer's theme knocked my socks off with a Superman that made me a fan of the character and started reading Superman comics, so we each have our own preferred definitive version.

Each time I see a new iteration of Batman, I'm excited to hear what new theme they come up with for this new version, not a hack copy paste of the same theme over and over. So why is Superman the only character that HAS to use the Williams theme? That makes no sense other than personal preference. Years down the line, when there's a new iteration of Superman in a new universe, I'd want a new theme for that character, not a copy paste of Zimmer's or William's theme. Hearing new music for new characters excites me, not rehashing old ones.

 

[routhman]

I think it's pretty solid stuff so far. It's very "throwback" even beyond the use of familiar themes, which is exciting in itself. It's going to set the mood nicely.

The use of the Williams theme is so "blink and you'll miss it" that it hardly matters.

Anyone else hear bits of Ottman's SUPERMAN RETURNS approach?

As for "generic", everything is generic. Zimmer and Junxie's drums and electronics ounds aren't any less generic, just more modern.

Really?

EDIT: The definition of generic is "lacking imagination or individuality; predictable and unoriginal." I think it's fair to say that a score that is a recycled collage of previous scores (whether you like the result or not) is generic. On the other hand, I don't think it's fair at all to dismiss all art in general as generic. That's just obtuse.

 

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This is why you f***ing hire Snyder and Zimmer to do your movie!!!!!!!