Daredevil reboot: official discussion thread

[lordofthenerds]

They're getting Twilight Eclipse director David Slade to do this? I smell a flop worse than the original.

 

[cherokeesam]

In the next film should Matt Murdock wear his traditional red costume or his original Yellow costume?

Why should he wear a Silver Age goofy costume that he only wore for a few issues in the 60s, when he wore devil red for the other 99.9% of his comic book career....?

 

[HighFivingMF]

Why should he wear a Silver Age goofy costume that he only wore for a few issues in the 60s, when he wore devil red for the other 99.9% of his comic book career....?

Because the yellow suit is ****ing awesome.

 

[Project862006]

They're getting Twilight Eclipse director David Slade to do this? I smell a flop worse than the original.

he also directed hard candy and 30 days of night 2 very good movies

 

[Hypestyle]

I doubt they'll use the yellow outfit, DD would have to be back under Marvel control before they do any nods to that, IMO.. I just hope the studio actually settles on a red outfit from the beginning-- apparently they insisted on a black outfit until maybe halfway through filming the first movie, and it had to be digitally recolored in editing..

So hopefully no origin sequence here-- if this involves the Born Again storylines, I wonder how they'll handle Karen.. in retrospect it was a really harsh move to turn Karen from secretary and occasional girlfriend to bargain-basement porn actress/heroin addict.. it may be a lot to take in for a movie-length plot to assume all the backstory between she and Matt..

I wonder if Nuke will be involved, heh.. of course Cap and Thor can't cameo..

I wonder who the new Fisk will be? or if the Rose will also be involved..

 

[TX85]

I ain't sure about Slade directing this But I won't put the film down until knowing about story/cast/etc,I am pretty thrilled that there's FINALLY some info about a new DD movie though!!

 

[spideyboy_1111]

^incredible hulk did it

eh.. that's like calling magneto the main villain of all the X-men movies... The first hulk films real main villain was his father (absorbing man) and the INC Hulk was abomination.

Ross wasn't the main protagonist in both films, even though he was one.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

I still think these F4 and DD announcements are nothing more than a ploy to ride the avengers hype bandwagon, and nothing more.

None of these announcements are actually making any progress on the film (searching for a new director (on F4) and a script rewrite for (DD) essentially just keeps everything at the exact same place and progress they were 2 years ago.

 

[Project862006]

^and where is the ant man movie by marvel thats been in production since before iron man got released

i seriously doubt fox is like oh shoot avengers lets release some movie info lol

 

[roach]

^and where is the ant man movie by marvel thats been in production since before iron man got released

i seriously doubt fox is like oh shoot avengers lets release some movie info lol

exactly
especially since DD isn't competition for Avengers

 

[cherokeesam]

^and where is the ant man movie by marvel thats been in production since before iron man got released

i seriously doubt fox is like oh shoot avengers lets release some movie info lol

Pay closer attention to the Feigemeister....he's already said in a couple of interviews in recent days that they're making big announcements about Ant-Man's progress in just a few months.

Hey U Guys caught up with the forthright executive at that European premiere, and asked about Ant-Man, which has been in development under the stewardship of Edgar Wright for several years now. Feige responded:

“It’s as close as it’s ever been. Edgar is getting excited to get behind the camera again and start some advanced prep work for Ant-Man… We are going to take some forward steps in a few months that will bring it closer than ever. In terms of release date, I don’t know.”
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Later he refers to Ant-Man as The Edgar Wright Show, which is a) great news for the movie and, b) a late night show I would watch every night. (I’ll start a petition after I post this article.) Feige recently told us to “pay attention to [Wright's] tweets in the coming months,” so either Ant-Man truly is finally coming together, or Feige is getting our hopes up way too high.

 

[Saitou Hajime]

I know he already played another superhero, but Gabriel Macht from Suits pretty much plays an expy of Matt Murdock with the Harvey Specter character. He'd also make for a great reimagined Richard Fisk, who'd be my pick for a reboot's central antagonist.

 

[psylockolussus]

I am not a fan of the director but I really hope FOX starts filming this reboot next year!

 

[OsGom]

What was wrong with the last script? He did pretty well adapting the Frank Miller run into one cohesive movie. About the only complaint I could imagine is that they could've used that material for two or three movies.
Seriously, what was wrong with it?

DD has always been my favorite comic book character. I was hugely disappointed in the first effort. DD let that guy die in the first 10 minutes. The Daredevil that I read and followed as a kid would not knowingly let anyone, even a criminal die if he could help it. Maybe that's changed recently but if so it certainly wasn't changed for the better. If it wasn't fixed in the directors cut then I don't see the point in watching that either.

The other problem was the playground scene. Matt Murdock went to great lengths to protect his secret identity. This did not include prancing around like a gymnast in public. In addition, it was An extraordinarily stupid scene. Surely Elektra would at least entertain the idea that Matt was in fact DD after seeing him jumping around on the seesaw.

I wish more emphasis was put on his skills as a detective that benefit from his amazing senses. DD can read paper print and distinguish color by touch. He can track by scent better than a hound dog. In addition to all that he is a brilliant lawyer. Matt barely spent 2 minutes in a court room. I don't think they made him appear anything more than a vigilante thug. The character I know and love is far more remarkable.

I think a reboot under fox is a really bad idea. I would prefer they feature the character in a cable series. Someone suggested something in the tone of The Wire. I think that sounds about right.

 

[Saitou Hajime]

I wish more emphasis was put on his skills as a detective that benefit from his amazing senses. DD can read paper print and distinguish color by touch. He can track by scent better than a hound dog. In addition to all that he is a brilliant lawyer. Matt barely spent 2 minutes in a court room.

You can see more of the above in the DC with the excised Dante Jackson subplot.

 

[Thebumwhowalks]

DD has always been my favorite comic book character. I was hugely disappointed in the first effort. DD let that guy die in the first 10 minutes. The Daredevil that I read and followed as a kid would not knowingly let anyone, even a criminal die if he could help it. Maybe that's changed recently but if so it certainly wasn't changed for the better. If it wasn't fixed in the directors cut then I don't see the point in watching that either.

The other problem was the playground scene. Matt Murdock went to great lengths to protect his secret identity. This did not include prancing around like a gymnast in public. In addition, it was An extraordinarily stupid scene. Surely Elektra would at least entertain the idea that Matt was in fact DD after seeing him jumping around on the seesaw.

I wish more emphasis was put on his skills as a detective that benefit from his amazing senses. DD can read paper print and distinguish color by touch. He can track by scent better than a hound dog. In addition to all that he is a brilliant lawyer. Matt barely spent 2 minutes in a court room. I don't think they made him appear anything more than a vigilante thug. The character I know and love is far more remarkable.

I think a reboot under fox is a really bad idea. I would prefer they feature the character in a cable series. Someone suggested something in the tone of The Wire. I think that sounds about right.

If you haven't seen the Director's cut, you haven't seen the movie properly at all.
The Dc has about half an hour added, and most of it is indeed Matt doing detective work, and with more court room scenes with him.

as for the scene with him letting the guy die, Frank Miller was on set during that scene, and Mark Steven Johnson discussed it with him, miller agreed he should let the guy die...I guess that is because they actually go through a character arc with that, where DD then decides not to be judge, jury *and*executioner, so i don't mind that they went through that story, as it feels like a realistic way of doing things to an extent, someone in a moment of anger letting that kind of person die. But DD ends up with the attitude we know him for by the end of the film, if he didn't, I would have the same problem with the film.

They kind of mess it up a bit though, by having him throw Bullseye through a window, after DD decides not to 'be the bad guy', but I guess you could no-prize that away by saying DD was just being wreckless, and he didn't think it was high enough to kill him.

seriously, watch the Director's cut pronto, go out and buy it this week, you will be pleasantly surprised. after you have watched it, go over to youtube and watch Captain Logan's review of the Director's cut on his 'supero rewind' series. he goes through all the differences, and explains exactly how the Dc improves the movie storywise. Don't watch it before you see the DC though, you will be spoiled for the surprise.

as for the playground scene, there were only kids there, so i don't think his secret id would be blown, after all, DD is an urban myth, the public does not even know what he looks like in costume, never mind that he is the acrobatic type. Same with elektra, she has no idea who DD is, or how he operates, she would just think Matt had martial arts training like her.

 

[BH/HHH]

I hope they get Daredevil right the second time round, make it dark and gritty and I think it'l work

 

[Bruce Malone]

Reading the summary for "born again" it sounds a very weird fit for a film adaptation.

 

[OsGom]

If you haven't seen the Director's cut, you haven't seen the movie properly at all.
The Dc has about half an hour added, and most of it is indeed Matt doing detective work, and with more court room scenes with him.

as for the scene with him letting the guy die, Frank Miller was on set during that scene, and Mark Steven Johnson discussed it with him, miller agreed he should let the guy die...I guess that is because they actually go through a character arc with that, where DD then decides not to be judge, jury *and*executioner, so i don't mind that they went through that story, as it feels like a realistic way of doing things to an extent, someone in a moment of anger letting that kind of person die. But DD ends up with the attitude we know him for by the end of the film, if he didn't, I would have the same problem with the film.

They kind of mess it up a bit though, by having him throw Bullseye through a window, after DD decides not to 'be the bad guy', but I guess you could no-prize that away by saying DD was just being wreckless, and he didn't think it was high enough to kill him.

seriously, watch the Director's cut pronto, go out and buy it this week, you will be pleasantly surprised. after you have watched it, go over to youtube and watch Captain Logan's review of the Director's cut on his 'supero rewind' series. he goes through all the differences, and explains exactly how the Dc improves the movie storywise. Don't watch it before you see the DC though, you will be spoiled for the surprise.

as for the playground scene, there were only kids there, so i don't think his secret id would be blown, after all, DD is an urban myth, the public does not even know what he looks like in costume, never mind that he is the acrobatic type. Same with elektra, she has no idea who DD is, or how he operates, she would just think Matt had martial arts training like her.

I'll check out the DC Bum. But if Miller signed off on DD leaving that guy for dead, I have to disagree with that decision. From the start intentionally killing or allowing someone to die was a line Matt wouldn't cross. I don't remember him doing that even on Miller's run.

 

[metaphysician]

If you haven't seen the Director's cut, you haven't seen the movie properly at all.
The Dc has about half an hour added, and most of it is indeed Matt doing detective work, and with more court room scenes with him.

as for the scene with him letting the guy die, Frank Miller was on set during that scene, and Mark Steven Johnson discussed it with him, miller agreed he should let the guy die...I guess that is because they actually go through a character arc with that, where DD then decides not to be judge, jury *and*executioner, so i don't mind that they went through that story, as it feels like a realistic way of doing things to an extent, someone in a moment of anger letting that kind of person die. But DD ends up with the attitude we know him for by the end of the film, if he didn't, I would have the same problem with the film.

They kind of mess it up a bit though, by having him throw Bullseye through a window, after DD decides not to 'be the bad guy', but I guess you could no-prize that away by saying DD was just being wreckless, and he didn't think it was high enough to kill him.

seriously, watch the Director's cut pronto, go out and buy it this week, you will be pleasantly surprised. after you have watched it, go over to youtube and watch Captain Logan's review of the Director's cut on his 'supero rewind' series. he goes through all the differences, and explains exactly how the Dc improves the movie storywise. Don't watch it before you see the DC though, you will be spoiled for the surprise.

as for the playground scene, there were only kids there, so i don't think his secret id would be blown, after all, DD is an urban myth, the public does not even know what he looks like in costume, never mind that he is the acrobatic type. Same with elektra, she has no idea who DD is, or how he operates, she would just think Matt had martial arts training like her.

One could argue that there's a difference between killing a functionally-helpless guy in cold ( hot? ) blood, versus using deadly force against an enemy in mortal combat. The latter is just fighting for your life, the former is an execution.

 

[roach]

I'll check out the DC Bum. But if Miller signed off on DD leaving that guy for dead, I have to disagree with that decision. From the start intentionally killing or allowing someone to die was a line Matt wouldn't cross. I don't remember him doing that even on Miller's run.

In the movie DD was struggling with his hero persona...and I will cosign on the directors cut...it made the movie better for me. DD DC was the first movie where I didn't want to be the hero...not because he wasn't cool but you could see it was tearing him apart

 

[The Guard]

I realize he's thrown around for pretty much every comic book project, but what does everyone think of Darren Aronofsky directing DAREDEVIL?

 

[roach]

he would be awesome but he tends to sign on for projects and quitting them

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Because the yellow suit is ****ing awesome.

Are you kidding? Only a blind man would wear that awful thi - oh, wait.

 

[Thebumwhowalks]

One could argue that there's a difference between killing a functionally-helpless guy in cold ( hot? ) blood, versus using deadly force against an enemy in mortal combat. The latter is just fighting for your life, the former is an execution.

He ended up on the train tracks because DD was defending himself from his gunshot, but there was enough time for DD to leap down and save him, so it crossed the line into an execution.