Daredevil reboot: official discussion thread

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i go reboot with a origin show in the opening credits.my cast ryan gosling -matt james gandolfini-kingpin phillip seymour hoffman-the owl a female love intrest pick one? save bullseye and electra for the sequel! also my title would be "man without fear"with the dd emblem sort of playing of the dark night without batman in the title
 
i go reboot with a origin show in the opening credits.my cast ryan gosling -matt james gandolfini-kingpin phillip seymour hoffman-the owl a female love intrest pick one? save bullseye and electra for the sequel! also my title would be "man without fear"with the dd emblem sort of playing of the dark night without batman in the title


I'd rather not see The Owl.
Costume-wise, he'd wind up looking like Nite Owl II in the Watchmen movie, and, as far as DD villains go, he's pretty lame.
 
I think you have him confused with somebody else. He's just a weird lookin' mutant. He looks more like.....classic Moriarty with Monarch eyebrows than freakin' Nite Owl. Play him as a straight up mob boss and you're set.
 
I'd rather not see The Owl.
Costume-wise, he'd wind up looking like Nite Owl II in the Watchmen movie, and, as far as DD villains go, he's pretty lame.

Owl could work in a story where he is engaged with a gang war with the Kingpin. Owl is the second most important crime boss villain DD has, so he is the most logical choice as a villain in a gang war story. Plus you can have a contrast between the two, with Owl being far more short tempered and animistic then the cool and calm Kingpin.

I think you have him confused with somebody else. He's just a weird lookin' mutant. He looks more like.....classic Moriarty with Monarch eyebrows than freakin' Nite Owl. Play him as a straight up mob boss and you're set.

I don't think Owl could carry a movie on his own, considering Kingpin is a far better crime boss villain. I think it would work best if he plays off Kingpin in a movie.
 
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i agree the owl could work with kingpin. i never said the owl solo in a film and he does not look like the one from watchmen! the pic i seen of him brings phillip seymour hoffman to mind.
 
i agree the owl could work with kingpin. i never said the owl solo in a film and he does not look like the one from watchmen! the pic i seen of him brings phillip seymour hoffman to mind.

Considering Owl is a crime boss in his own right, I don't think he would want to work with Kingpin, I think he would prefer to work against the Kingpin. Again I think the best role for Owl in a Daredevil movie is being one side in a gang war story. Owl thinks of himself as a leader, not a follower and he would much rather take the Kingpin's empire, then serve him in exchange for scraps.

There have been some good gang war stories in both DD and Spidey comics, so it wouldn't take much to take the big gang story in DD from the 80s and rework it to a feud between Kingpin and the Owl.
 
The Owl's look would require a heavy redesign for a movie.
 
Could somebody point me to the Owl's big arc in the comic so I can join in about how awesome he is?
 
The Owl's look would require a heavy redesign for a movie.

Yes, maybe something even more owl-like such as this?

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:D
 
Owl could work in a story where he is engaged with a gang war with the Kingpin. Owl is the second most important crime boss villain DD has, so he is the most logical choice as a villain in a gang war story. Plus you can have a contrast between the two, with Owl being far more short tempered and animistic then the cool and calm Kingpin.



I don't think Owl could carry a movie on his own, considering Kingpin is a far better crime boss villain. I think it would work best if he plays off Kingpin in a movie.


I'd rather he was a rival actually trying to make a play on the Kingpin, resulting in DD being used as a pawn, ultimately being maneuvered by Fisk into taking down the Owl in one of those Xanatos Gambit scenarios.

He doesn't have to be an end all, be all bad guy. He just has to be a threat. Which he is.

Then again, you could just take the nuts and bolts of the character and simply make him extremely competent. Just because he never really caught on in the comics doesn't mean somebody can't write a compelling Owl in a script. Play him up more as the Moriarty style villain he was originally supposed to be. You'd be surprised how easy it is to improve a character with a little abstract thinking.
 
Could somebody point me to the Owl's big arc in the comic so I can join in about how awesome he is?

I'm not sure he had a whole lot of "big arcs" in the comics, he isn't that well used in the comics. A lot of people say the Owl/Dr. Octopus gang war story in Spider-Man was pretty good, some people like the "Lowlife" Arc that featured Owl as the villain in Bendis' run and Owl did play an significant role in the DD/Spidey Crossover from 2001, even though he was not the main villain.

There was a gang war story in the 80s, where Kingpin was fighting his former lieutenants for control over NYC, I think it would be better to use a gang war story with Owl as the one opposing Kingpin rather then his former lieutenants, because the lieutenants were rather throw away characters and having a more developed and centralized enemy for Kingpin to feud with would make for a better story.


I'd rather he was a rival actually trying to make a play on the Kingpin, resulting in DD being used as a pawn, ultimately being maneuvered by Fisk into taking down the Owl in one of those Xanatos Gambit scenarios.

Haven't you reading my other posts on this thread, that's what I have been suggesting with the Owl.

He doesn't have to be an end all, be all bad guy. He just has to be a threat. Which he is.

Then again, you could just take the nuts and bolts of the character and simply make him extremely competent. Just because he never really caught on in the comics doesn't mean somebody can't write a compelling Owl in a script. Play him up more as the Moriarty style villain he was originally supposed to be. You'd be surprised how easy it is to improve a character with a little abstract thinking.

Kingpin is already a crime boss villain who plays Moriarty to Daredevil, how would Owl be anything but a Kingpin clone if he is serving the exact same role Kingpin is? How would Owl be different from Kingpin if he is also presented as DD's Moriarty? I think should be different from each other, Kingpin should be the calm and in control crime boss, Owl should be less competent then Kingpin, more mentally unstable , less concerned with his public image, more willing to to resort to blood shed. Owl should have a sort of animistic cunning, but he can undermined by an extreme temper.

Owl shouldn't be stupid, but he should be insane. In a way Owl would be more dangerous then Kingpin, because he would care less about the consequences of his actions then Kingpin. Heck Owl has been mentally unstable in the comics since the 80s, in the Lowlife arc he scratched one of his minions for no good reason and in the early 90s Owl had a mental break down and was attacking small time criminals because he considered himself "New York's chief predator."
 
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Yeah, set it up so that as a result of DD's actions to stop the gang war, he firmly plants Fisk as the boss of bosses......all of which going exactly as he planned.
 
I think Owl's a bit too much of a longshot. The early reports from this project are that it's going to involve the Born Again story arc, and I believe the director mentioned an interest in The Purple Man; but there's been no rumors about The Owl.
 
After reading Ultimates Knights, I would love to see the end of that trade with Daredevil in this film. God, that could be so damn good. We would actually think he is capable of doing it too, given the **** Kingpin will put him through.
 
I had a great idea for the costume: What about a fabric/leather hybrid? A fabric bodysuit with leather gloves and boots?
I think that should provide a great compromise between flexibility and durability.
 
I'm kind of surprised that Marvel has never to my recollection mentioned making a live action series based on Dardevil. I can't imagine the budget for it would be too expensive. Speaking of which,did anybody here ever watch the short lived Blind Justice tv series? Was it any good?The premise about a blind lawyer was obviously inspired by DD.
 
I'm kind of surprised that Marvel has never to my recollection mentioned making a live action series based on Dardevil. I can't imagine the budget for it would be too expensive.
I think a TV series is the way to go with DD. They could really expand on the courtroom stuff and the crime drama stuff if they make it into a sort of superhero procedural.
Speaking of which,did anybody here ever watch the short lived Blind Justice tv series? Was it any good?The premise about a blind lawyer was obviously inspired by DD.
It was stupid. They let him carry a gun.
 
Alexander Skaarsgard (True Blood, Generation Kill) would be a killer Matt Murdock. And, no, not because I saw this picture of him with sunglasses. :p Ran across it after I picked him for the role.

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I think a TV series is the way to go with DD. They could really expand on the courtroom stuff and the crime drama stuff if they make it into a sort of superhero procedural.
It was stupid. They let him carry a gun.
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^^ I've been saying for some time now that I'd like for Marvel to do a Daredevil show Smallville-style. They could call it Man Without Fear. It would be Matt Murdock in his college years, either undergrad or possibly law school. Foggy is his roommate. If Matt had his accident at 12, he's had his basic radar and expanded senses for 7 - 8 years, but he's not yet a super-ninja yet. He goes around campus and the city fighting street level crime. The Kingpin (or whoever the crime boss of choice) is in the background, but of course has no idea about who this vigilante is. The police want him, but of course, they have no idea. Various women characters can be recurring. Maybe Karen Page is a drama or communications major (we know she got into, ahem, 'acting' later, but no foreshadowing here..)
Matt can get an internship job at a law firm, and get involved with the cases, finding the real culprits (for the wrongly accused) and getting evidence (for justified lawsuits)..
 
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I'd rather not. Main reason why Smallville sucked.
 
the hype isn't going to post an image from a url with a censored word in it
 
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