Daredevil = Underrated

[Gunga Diner]

I think Daredevil isn't a great movie, but it's certainly not a "bad movie." It's certainly leagues above Tim Story's Fantastic Four movies and is a little bit better than Ratner's third X-Men movie. It's insanely flawed and uneven, but it's a guilty pleasure and not without it's decent moments. I felt like it never betrayed the source material, it's never boring or dull, and it's consistently entertaining. But it's hard for me to be objective about it, because a lot of my fondness for it comes from the fact that when it came out in theaters, I was 10 and I thought it was the coolest thing in the world. Now that I'm older I can appreciate it for what an fun, goofy mess it is.

 

[Elevator Man]

I don't think either Daredevil cuts were underrated or good. The directors cut did about as much as the Fantastic 4 EC did for it's theatrical cut, imo.( Both of which I wasted my time watching on F/X once.) Both cuts of each movies added nothing ,imo.

I didn't care about the characters no more than I did in the theatrical cut. And who was the genius who thought Coolio would make a believable client (or actor even) for a blind attorney or any attorney for that matter. I couldn't take that seriously at all. The cut scene with Colin Farrell dancing around an escallator in an airport while sucking on a paperclip for a minute was silly and pointless. It didn't add anything to the character who's supposed to be an assassin, but comes off as an immature biker reject instead. Which the theatrical cut already proved he already was,imo. Kingpin killing his henchmen for no good reason but to be over the top and unintentionally funny. That was another goofy scene. If they were trying to make MCD intimidating? They FAILED very miserably. I could go on and on, but won't. I'd waste more time typing than I did watching both cuts combined with both F4 cuts combined.

Those scenes and many others in the DC added nothing to me,imo. I hate to use this overused term but it's appropriate for this film b/c this reboot needs it . But the Daredevil Reboot needs to be Nolanized . I mean by Nolan himself. There I said it. That really pains me to say and admit that b/c I don't believe Nolan can reboot every single superhero movie franchise like some people think he can. I got tired of that since Batman Begins. For a character like Daredevil, though. You need to make him as believable, convincing and realistic as possible. I actually think Nolan can do something with Daredevil (and Punisher for that matter). He probably can do more with Daredevil than he did with Batman, imo.


The only thing I actually liked about Daredevil was the Daredevil costume. That's pretty much it.

 

[Matt Mortem]

The costume in DD was PERFECT

 

[Octoberist]

I do think that Jennifer Garner did the best that was given to her, but ultimately she was miscast as Electra. The actress doesn't need to be Greek per say, but I wanted someone who looked Mediterranean and exotic.

 

[Red Mask]

I don't think either Daredevil cuts were underrated or good. The directors cut did about as much as the Fantastic 4 EC did for it's theatrical cut, imo.( Both of which I wasted my time watching on F/X once.) Both cuts of each movies added nothing ,imo.

I didn't care about the characters no more than I did in the theatrical cut. And who was the genius who thought Coolio would make a believable client (or actor even) for a blind attorney or any attorney for that matter. I couldn't take that seriously at all. The cut scene with Colin Farrell dancing around an escallator in an airport while sucking on a paperclip for a minute was silly and pointless. It didn't add anything to the character who's supposed to be an assassin, but comes off as an immature biker reject instead. Which the theatrical cut already proved he already was,imo. Kingpin killing his henchmen for no good reason but to be over the top and unintentionally funny. That was another goofy scene. If they were trying to make MCD intimidating? They FAILED very miserably. I could go on and on, but won't. I'd waste more time typing than I did watching both cuts combined with both F4 cuts combined.

Those scenes and many others in the DC added nothing to me,imo. I hate to use this overused term but it's appropriate for this film b/c this reboot needs it . But the Daredevil Reboot needs to be Nolanized . I mean by Nolan himself. There I said it. That really pains me to say and admit that b/c I don't believe Nolan can reboot every single superhero movie franchise like some people think he can. I got tired of that since Batman Begins. For a character like Daredevil, though. You need to make him as believable, convincing and realistic as possible. I actually think Nolan can do something with Daredevil (and Punisher for that matter). He probably can do more with Daredevil than he did with Batman, imo.


The only thing I actually liked about Daredevil was the Daredevil costume. That's pretty much it.

This is why I prefer my superheroes as cartoon series. At least that way it keeps the whole genre in its PROPER perspective. For heaven's sake, it's just fiction. It's no more real than that stupid Gladiator flick.

 

[Daredevil]

I don't think either Daredevil cuts were underrated or good. The directors cut did about as much as the Fantastic 4 EC did for it's theatrical cut, imo.( Both of which I wasted my time watching on F/X once.) Both cuts of each movies added nothing ,imo.

I didn't care about the characters no more than I did in the theatrical cut. And who was the genius who thought Coolio would make a believable client (or actor even) for a blind attorney or any attorney for that matter. I couldn't take that seriously at all. The cut scene with Colin Farrell dancing around an escallator in an airport while sucking on a paperclip for a minute was silly and pointless. It didn't add anything to the character who's supposed to be an assassin, but comes off as an immature biker reject instead. Which the theatrical cut already proved he already was,imo. Kingpin killing his henchmen for no good reason but to be over the top and unintentionally funny. That was another goofy scene. If they were trying to make MCD intimidating? They FAILED very miserably. I could go on and on, but won't. I'd waste more time typing than I did watching both cuts combined with both F4 cuts combined.

I disagree with all of this. But to each his own.

 

[Dark Hulkness]

DD didnt get great reviews bc look who played DD! Hes a great actor dont get me wrong but DD absolutely not! very bad casting director....my 2 cents

 

[Slushy]

I don't think either Daredevil cuts were underrated or good. The directors cut did about as much as the Fantastic 4 EC did for it's theatrical cut, imo.( Both of which I wasted my time watching on F/X once.) Both cuts of each movies added nothing ,imo.

Absolutely wrong. Thirty minutes of new material and somewhat new editing make up for a far better movie IMO. Now, I really liked the theatrical cut, but like the Director said in the featturette, it felt a little more like a revenge movie than a true DD story. With the new murder subplot with Coolio the movie gains new life and has more purpose. Everything makes more sense now, like the Kingpin's reputation and his subsequent downfall. It really felt like a true DareDevil graphic novel. Why do the movie execs feel like they have to castrate something as good as this cut is beyond me. And the new R rating? Totally unnecessary since there's just a few more curse words here and there and the added voilence is really more extended fight sequences.

To the other doubters out there, trust me when I say this. You'll feel like you've watched a whole different movie. A better movie. An awesome movie!

 

[marcvader]

It has to do with personal tastes and the vast majority of CBM fans did not like this movie regardless of the cut.

 

[Elevator Man]

Absolutely wrong. Thirty minutes of new material and somewhat new editing make up for a far better movie IMO. Now, I really liked the theatrical cut, but like the Director said in the featturette, it felt a little more like a revenge movie than a true DD story. With the new murder subplot with Coolio the movie gains new life and has more purpose. Everything makes more sense now, like the Kingpin's reputation and his subsequent downfall. It really felt like a true DareDevil graphic novel. Why do the movie execs feel like they have to castrate something as good as this cut is beyond me. And the new R rating? Totally unnecessary since there's just a few more curse words here and there and the added voilence is really more extended fight sequences.

To the other doubters out there, trust me when I say this. You'll feel like you've watched a whole different movie. A better movie. An awesome movie!

So I'm wrong on my own opinion.

LOL on that Coolio comment.

 

[Ipodman]

What's happening with Daredevil films anyway? Is the rights back to Marvel?

 

[slicer4444]

I liked Daredevil, but I just recently saw the director's cut and thought it was a much better film. The story was more fleshed out and made more sense. I haven't read the comics but from what I've heard, there were elements that were very close (Bullseye killing Elektra with a playing card and her sai). I'll admit that Jennifer Garner wasn't the best for the role but you can't win 'em all.

 

[marcvader]

Read the comics and you'll understand why most DD fans don't like the movies.

 

[Octoberist]

I find it weird that Affleck was in better shape in The Town than he was in Daredevil.

 

[finalrelief]

I'm not an Affleck hater....but he's just not a superhero... it's like saying alright Justin Timberlake, good job on the social netowrk movie...you're going to be captain america! I want a reboot, I'd LOVE a reboot. This movie wasn't garbage though, it has its good points

 

[BrlntDsgse]

Ehh, yeah it's underrated, but not by much. I will say however that even though it's not great(or even all that good), it DOES have that "guilty pleasure" vibe where it's still enjoyable despite it's flaws. I'd chalk that up to the fact that both Mark Steven Johnson and Affleck were already fans of Daredevil and had the best intentions at heart, which is why it does at least seem to TRY to be faithful to the comics. But, FOX wanted an inexpensive Spider-Man clone, hence the odd mix of light-heartedness/humor and half-hearted attempts at darkness/edginess. Plus the fact that Johnson is just not a very good director.

The director's cut however is a different story, it doesn't make it GREAT, but it does manage to make it pretty damn GOOD. The added subplot does wonders to make the film more serious and fleshed out.

 

[Ipodman]

The Director's Cut is certainly much better... but the theatrical cut wasnt too shabby. It was dark and gritty and really violent at times... in a good way of course

 

[Naked Shia]

I think the Director's cut is really interesting. For instance, Matt not leaving Elektra to rescue a victim in the theatrical run was a huge mistake. They toned down the romance in the DC, which was great, especially because Elektra was a bland character here. Garner did what she could, but the writting was weak, probably because they were aiming for a more vanilla kind of romance.

The court scenes should never have been deleted. They make the plot way more interesting, and the Matt/Foggy banter really works. They had a great chemistry.

The kingpin story works better too, now we know why the police come after him.

The playground scene is still stupid, and shouldn't be here. I'm also divided on how murderous he is at first. Granted, it allows for character development, but I would have prefered a MOs scenario, where he can't avoid killing the dude. Or even better, make him chase the fixer, and because he's so scary, the fixer has a heart attack, like in the comics. You would still have said character development.

Colin Farrell as bullseye was annoying, funny, crazy, and mostly, not bullseye. With him not feeling like bullseye and Elektra not being really Elektra, her murder, while faithful visually to DD 181, wasn't as powerful, nor as brutal as it should have been.

The origin thing was well made, but I would have liked some mention of Stick.

The action scenes were uneve. The bar fight is glorious, and so is the final fight against the kingpin, but the other fights are disappointing, and so is the large use of CGI.

That said, I really like the DC, and it's obvious the director loves the character. It's an enjoybale, if flawed movie, but it could have been s much better in other hands. I will still watch it again tonight though ^^

 

[CaptainWagner]

What's happening with Daredevil films anyway? Is the rights back to Marvel?

Yes, and a Netflix series is currently being filmed.

 

[Tim_Riggins]

Yeah, director's cut is a legit good movie, the bar fight completely uncut is absolutely glorious.

 

[cph9fa]

Yes, and a Netflix series is currently being filmed.

Of course, when that question was asked, four years ago, that wasn't the case.

 

[kedrell]

I think the D/C might be underrated(as it's better than the abysmal theatrical version) but it's still not a good movie as far as I can see. I mean the first time we see Kingpin, he kills two guys for no reason. I was like "Huh?? Did I miss something??" Terrible.

 

[Naked Shia]

I'm not an Affleck hater....but he's just not a superhero... it's like saying alright Justin Timberlake, good job on the social netowrk movie...you're going to be captain america! I want a reboot, I'd LOVE a reboot. This movie wasn't garbage though, it has its good points

You say that again after march 2016

 

[DrCosmic]

It is underrated, only because it's regarded as complete garbage. It was a very weak movie, only mildly entertaining.

 

[Saitou Hajime]

I mean the first time we see Kingpin, he kills tow guys for no reason. I was like "Huh?? Did I miss something??" Terrible.

He did it to intimidate Wesley (to keep him in line) and Natchios (who he knows is watching, and is about to screw him over).