DareDevil

[Scarecrow_King]

this issue made me want to see Waid writing more Spider-man. The back and forth between Spidey and DD over the entire 2 issues was great.

 

[kguillou]

Once again, Waid is killing it on this book. The way he writes Spidey is hilarious. "I think this is my super villain origin". CLASSIC line.

 

[Scarecrow_King]

I can't wait to see how the Infinity Drive thing works out. especially since we'll be getting Mark Waid writing Daredevil, Spider-Man, and Punisher all together. god it's gonna be awesome.

 

[runawayboulder]

The super villain origin line was hysterical.

 

[flash13]

Just read issue 8 and as usual I loved it. Thank God for Waid, like some people I was disappointed in all of the Andy Diggle stuff. As someone who read all of the great DD runs in trade form (Miller, Brubaker, etc.) I can definitely say that this has become my favorite.

 

[runawayboulder]

Gotta take the time and acknowledge this title for it's slew of Eisner award nominations.

They include:
Best Continuing Series

Best Single issue (DD#7 with Matt leading the blind kids through the wilderness after their bus crashes)

Best Writer - Mark Waid

Best Penciler/Inker and/or team - Marcos Martin, Paolo River/Joe Rivera

Best Cover Artist - Marcos Martin

I should mention the individual nominations for Waid and Martin also covers their other work like Irredeemable and ASM. So congrats to them because this book doesn't nearly get enough love around here!

 

[CConn]

I just haven't been able to get into Waid's Daredevil myself. I've read a few issues now, but nothing seems to have any weight or importance to it. I'm not saying I want the doom and gloom of Bendis or Brubaker...but even light stories need to have a sense of importance to them.

I mean, okay, he's battling old' Mole Man again, sounds fun, but did anyone expect that story to be anything more than a fun couple of issues that could be forgotten about two seconds after you read them?

 

[runawayboulder]

I thought it had a nice touch at the end with Matt placing the recovered diamonds on all the headstones of the graves that were robbed. While it was filler stuff leading into the Omega Disk arc, I thought it was pretty solid storytelling.

 

[CConn]

That's the problem though; it was filler. And that's what I feel like the book has been for the past 3 or 4 issues...which is way too much filler at once.

 

[SpideyForPrez]

I just haven't been able to get into Waid's Daredevil myself. I've read a few issues now, but nothing seems to have any weight or importance to it. I'm not saying I want the doom and gloom of Bendis or Brubaker...but even light stories need to have a sense of importance to them.

I mean, okay, he's battling old' Mole Man again, sounds fun, but did anyone expect that story to be anything more than a fun couple of issues that could be forgotten about two seconds after you read them?

This is actually why I like Waid's run so much. The stories are lighthearted, fun and done after only a few issues. All too often these days writers put out stories that try too hard to be epic and important, and while that's good sometimes, they just get boring after awhile. Call me impatient but I'm tired of stories that take 7-8 months to finish. Scott Snyders' Batman is an example of a good epic story line that's going to take about a year. But I decided to drop Batman and Robin because it just felt dragged out without a lot happening in each issue and should have taken five issues at the most.

Dardevil has been one of my favorite books recently because the individual arcs are short, but all still have the overall plot involving Matt trying to get his life back on track and get over his previous "doom and gloom" attitude. I think Daredevil deserves all those Eisner award nominations runawayboulder just posted.

 

[CConn]

I'm sorry, but saying "I don't like stories that are important" just never makes any sense to me.

 

[SpideyForPrez]

I'm not saying that I don't like stories that are important. I'm saying that too many writers try and be important and fail by dragging a story out too long.

DD is refreshing because it isn't trying to be important, it's trying to be entertaining and it's succeeding. At least, it is with me.

I understand that you and other readers may not like it because you want all your stories to have a certain weight and feel like the events will mean something. But I don't think a character like Daredevil needs that kind of thing. He's a street level vigilante. Not the kind of hero who stops cosmic level threats, not an Avenger (because I'm ignoring most of the Avengers books), or anything on a huge scale.

That being said, I'm looking forward to the "Omega Effect" story and expect that to be a bit more important since it involves all the major crime syndicates. That's about how important Daredevil should be to the MU at large. IMO, I understand if you feel otherwise.

 

[kguillou]

I dont think anyone's saying that, but there's a reason why literally everyone has been saying Waid's DD is a breath of fresh air. He's bringing it all back to basics without resorting to regression. Everything that's happened to DD the past decade still happened and still very much has consequences, but Waid is simply moving the character forward by having him not walllow in his own misery and move on. Its nice to have shorter stories too because the average arc nowadays is 6-7 issues.

 

[CConn]

I'm not saying that I don't like stories that are important. I'm saying that too many writers try and be important and fail by dragging a story out too long.

DD is refreshing because it isn't trying to be important, it's trying to be entertaining and it's succeeding. At least, it is with me.

I understand that you and other readers may not like it because you want all your stories to have a certain weight and feel like the events will mean something. But I don't think a character like Daredevil needs that kind of thing. He's a street level vigilante. Not the kind of hero who stops cosmic level threats, not an Avenger (because I'm ignoring most of the Avengers books), or anything on a huge scale.

That being said, I'm looking forward to the "Omega Effect" story and expect that to be a bit more important since it involves all the major crime syndicates. That's about how important Daredevil should be to the MU at large. IMO, I understand if you feel otherwise.

Well, yeah. Stretching a story out to long is still bad writing either way.

If you want a good example of how to write incredible, yet short, arcs...look at Rucka's Batwoman origin. That was only three issues, but felt massive due to have epic and seminal.

 

[SpideyForPrez]

I dont think anyone's saying that, but there's a reason why literally everyone has been saying Waid's DD is a breath of fresh air. He's bringing it all back to basics without resorting to regression. Everything that's happened to DD the past decade still happened and still very much has consequences, but Waid is simply moving the character forward by having him not walllow in his own misery and move on. Its nice to have shorter stories too because the average arc nowadays is 6-7 issues.

Exactly.

 

[CConn]

I dont think anyone's saying that, but there's a reason why literally everyone has been saying Waid's DD is a breath of fresh air. He's bringing it all back to basics without resorting to regression. Everything that's happened to DD the past decade still happened and still very much has consequences, but Waid is simply moving the character forward by having him not walllow in his own misery and move on. Its nice to have shorter stories too because the average arc nowadays is 6-7 issues.

Again, I'm not saying I want dark, miserable DD stories. But Matt has not moved an inch the past four issues. He's been stuck in stagnant little stories that have had no consequence.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Daredevil's fun. In the current climate of the comics industry, that's a pretty rare and precious commodity in a series, so I'm content with it. I kind of don't even care where Waid's ultimately working on taking things. As long as I can get some good art and a fun adventure in each issue, I'm good for now. If he's still drawing things out in another 3 or 4 months, that might change, but for now it's fine.

 

[SpideyForPrez]

Well, yeah. Stretching a story out to long is still bad writing either way.

If you want a good example of how to write incredible, yet short, arcs...look at Rucka's Batwoman origin. That was only three issues, but felt massive due to have epic and seminal.

I actually read "Elegy" for the first time last week from my library and I agree. It was short but a had a great weight to it, got me really interested in Batwoman too. I'm considering picking up her solo book, even though Rucka's not writing it, since I enjoyed it so much.

 

[CConn]

I dunno, I buy like 10 Marvel comics and they're all pretty fun; Avengers Academy, JiM, WatXM, etc.

 

[CConn]

I actually read "Elegy" for the first time last week from my library and I agree. It was short but a had a great weight to it, got me really interested in Batwoman too. I'm considering picking up her solo book, even though Rucka's not writing it, since I enjoyed it so much.

You should. Shockingly, Williams' writing has been pretty on par with Rucka's.

 

[SpideyForPrez]

Yeah Avengers Academy, Thunderbolts, Daredevil and Spider-Man are some of my favorite books right now because they're all fun. But I do agree with Corp that fun books are the minority in comics today where most of them try to be epic and earth-shattering.

 

[runawayboulder]

I don't think the Omega story has been drawn out too long. Waid has carefully mixed it in during the first year of DD. It should be over for good after this coming crossover. Anymore after that would be definitely too much.

 

[CConn]

I hate to be the jerk who keeps disagreeing, but fun books are always there, it's just the majority of us dumb****ers who read comics pay more attention to the doom and gloom of the trite never-ending series of crossovers and "earth shattering" events.

 

[runawayboulder]

I try to mix it up between the light stuff and the wide-screen comics epic stuff.

 

[E-Man]

One of the things I love about the shorter stories is that it keeps things from being longer than they should. I'm fine with a 6 issue arc, but right now these stories are being told at the perfect pace. I've seen Daredevil do so much in the first 10 issues, but none of them feel rushed at all. With this comic you can tell that it's not following a pattern that's easy to predict. It is going at the perfect pace.