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Dawn of the Planet of the Apes

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As ballsy as WB is sometimes, there was no excuse for Jonah Hex.
 
Green Lantern was actually worse because it was a bigger film, had a template to go by (Marve Studios) and was suppose to be the launch pad for future DC movies, and it failed. Heck, no one talks about the film so it's also forgettable.
 
Apes was one of the best movies of that year
i think some mean best emotional character story and not best movie.

was the editing,cinematography good? was Franco good? was the pacing good?

its all about Caesar.
 
Oh look at that person and their silly opinion. Let me take it upon myself to correct this situation... :o
 
Saying that WB is often just as bad doesn't change anything about my confidence in Fox to make a good movie.

It just means that WB is just as bad, which is quite true. I don't think its a coincidence that WB's better films are made in partnership with Legendary.
 
i think some mean best emotional character story and not best movie.

was the editing,cinematography good? was Franco good? was the pacing good?

its all about Caesar.

None of those things were bad.

And yes, it was all about Caesar. God forbid a movie have a solid emotional center, a rousing story and a dynamic protagonist.
 
None of those things were bad.

And yes, it was all about Caesar. God forbid a movie have a solid emotional center, a rousing story and a dynamic protagonist.
but thats why i like the movie. everything about the direction and franco was bad and boring.
 
I liked 'Rise' though I really think many people, including critics, were NOT expecting a whole lot but were surprised by it. So to me it was a sleeper hit.

But by all means, it wasn't a perfect film but a surprisingly entertaining film.
 
I thought Rise was better than good, I thought it was a great movie.

What really elevates it is the interaction between the apes. Most directors would've totally fumble the ball there but that part specifically was perfectly executed.
 
wb was equally as bad
they lucky the hit it big with harry potter and batman

They didn't micromanage those properties, though, thanks to David Heyman and Christopher Nolan. When you let producers and directors make the film they want to make, it tends to end up doing better for both sides involved. Not that allowing creative control always makes for a better film, but neither is micromanaging either.
 
I thought Rise was better than good, I thought it was a great movie.

What really elevates it is the interaction between the apes. Most directors would've totally fumble the ball there but that part specifically was perfectly executed.

Agreed, I remember not wanting to see it at all, even after all the great write-ups I didnt fancy it, eventually bit the bullitt and went with a friend, and thought it was a great film.

That feeling amplified the more I watched the movie, it really is a good film.
 
I thought Rise's direction and cinematography were good and I thought it's pacing was just fine. The biggest flaws of the film were the underwritten and mediocre performances by the actors.

That being said I still think that the film is very, very good because it has honest to god heart and Ceaser is a wonderful character.

I have no problem with people disagreeing with me but Rise of the Planet of Apes touched me and got under my skin like very few blockbusters. Not quite great because of the flaws but it came damn near the greatness line.
 
I have no problem with people disagreeing with me but Rise of the Planet of Apes touched me and got under my skin like very few blockbusters. Not quite great because of the flaws but it came damn near the greatness line.

I think it was this scene, among others, that really made the film for me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLeWbA8hHao
[YT]PLeWbA8hHao[/YT]
The showing I was in had some people talking. The second that scene came up, however, the theater was so quiet you could hear a pin drop. I even think I heard someone close to me say, "Holy ****!" :woot:

I'd almost equate that moment to Darth Vader telling Luke, "No, I am your father." It practically came out of left field, and now that line and the moment I experienced it in theaters is forever engrained in my mind.
 
One of my favorite parts about that moment is the gorilla's reaction.
 
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I think it was this scene, among others, that really made the film for me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLeWbA8hHao
[YT]PLeWbA8hHao[/YT]
The showing I was in had some people talking. The second that scene came up, however, the theater was so quiet you could hear a pin drop. I even think I heard someone close to me say, "Holy ****!" :woot:

I'd almost equate that moment to Darth Vader telling Luke, "No, I am your father." It practically came out of left field, and now that line and the moment I experienced it in theaters is forever engrained in my mind.
I really didn't think speech was going to happen till like the very end of the film, but this **** caught me by surprise I remember vividly I went the day the film was released and no one in the audience was expecting that. I think the audience in unison said "holy ****!" lol
 
What made the movie great for me was that Caesar had a ridiculously great story arc, everything he does he is justified for doing. You can tell that he is growing up, he is maturing and when he has had enough of the human bs you can tell. He is freaking scary when he is just sitting in his cage, just observing and when he is watching over the other apes while Maurice is talking to him. God damn rarely does a movie show such an incredible arc but the fact that it was an ape was ridiculously impressive. I understand the complaints about Franco but he was a side character, the complaints about the romance coming up out of nowhere was really stupid because its not the focus of the movie. I loved that kept Lithgow to a short role because the thing with Alzheimer's is that if you do too much you can exploit it and then the movie won't be as strong, he was in it long enough to see he has it bad and to start caring about him.
 
I thought the first film was ok. Serkis was great at what he does but the rest was nothing to write home about. And the whole virus angle I was never keen on in the first place. I like the original version better where all this happened over centuries of time. The plot convenient virus part always seemed a pretty lazy way to set up the status quo. I hope they draw things out more in the sequels. PotA is big idea sci-fi and deserves to be painted on a really big canvas of (in-story)time. If you condense it all that ends up happening is that it feels cheap rather than epic.
 
I think it was this scene, among others, that really made the film for me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLeWbA8hHao
[YT]PLeWbA8hHao[/YT]
The showing I was in had some people talking. The second that scene came up, however, the theater was so quiet you could hear a pin drop. I even think I heard someone close to me say, "Holy ****!" :woot:

I'd almost equate that moment to Darth Vader telling Luke, "No, I am your father." It practically came out of left field, and now that line and the moment I experienced it in theaters is forever engrained in my mind.

It shows the power of that scene that I had heard about it and knew when it was going to happen, yet my jaw dropped and I was just as silent as the rest of the cinema when it did come along in the movie. Superb stuff and definately one of the scene's of that year.
 
To me that scene was undercut by the clunky way they had Malfoy crowbar Heston's iconic line in there.
 
^Well as someone who has never really been a big Apes fan, it didnt bother me too much, was just sort of a nod to the old movie/s.
 
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