Day of the Dead Casting news: Ving Rhymes is cast as....

[Horrorfan]

Captain Rhodes


This has been reported on sites like dreadcentral.com and bloody-disgusting.com, along with other tidbits. The filmakers say it would be arrogant to assume they could just refilm the original and make a better movie, so this will be a reimagining, more in the vein of the dawn of the dead remake than anything.

I can't wait for this movie!

 

[MaskedManJRK]

...Okay...if this is a sequel to Dawn, and Ving was in that, wouldn't it make sense that he would play the same character?

 

[Mr. Credible]

how nice.

we already have a thread about this movie, though.

 

[Joker]

yeah, it's gonna suck, who cares?

 

[Mr. Credible]

well, the dawn remake was really good, so... who knows?

 

[Joker]

well, the dawn remake was really good, so... who knows?

no it wasnt

 

[Mr. Credible]

yes, it was. it was in no way a bad movie.

 

[zer00]

You know...I liked the Dawn remake for what it was. It was one of the few good remakes...though it's barely a remake.

But jesus leave Day the **** alone

 

[black_dust]

just leave all the deads alone

 

[Horrorfan]

Dawn of the Dead remake was FANTASTIC. I would argue in many ways that it is superior to the original, even if it is less groundbreaking.


This is NOT a direct sequel to the Dawn remake btw. It could be set in the same universe, but it's not following directly on.

 

[Joker]

Dawn of the Dead remake was FANTASTIC. I would argue in many ways that it is superior to the original, even if it is less groundbreaking.

If I could see you, I would slap you right now...

1. They had no real reason for going to the mall. They just pulled the idea out of there asses. I guess they wanted to get some shopping done or something?

2. The security guards were a**holes for no reason. Why the hell would anyone act like they were still doing there job when it's the zombie apocalypse outside? And how he suddenly changed over to being all noble at the end for no reason? What was that about?

3. All the other characters were incredibly generic. You had ******** ladies man, bad ass, crazy girl who breaks down because she's a girl, crazy guy who breaks down because he's a big girl, and strong feamle lead. They had no real development for any of them because they were trying to fit way too many characters into at once. The original only worked as well as it did because there were only 4 people, and 1 of them wasnt even in it for the whole time.

4. The girl with the dog was a giant f**king idiot, and I doubt would have even lasted long enough to get to the damn mall in the first place with her care more for the life of pets than her own.

5. The zombies ran. What the f**k? It worked in 28 days later because they werent really zombies. And it doesnt make any sense. If you die the first thing that happens is rigor mortis, so you would be much to stiff to do anything other than shamble around very stiffly. Then everything goes loose, so you wouldnt be able to do anything other than shamble around loosely.

6. The wait time for becoming a zombie was incredibly inconsitent, but always way too short.

7. Why the hell did they make it so you had to be bitten? If you had to be bitten, how the hell did the infection spread so quickly? Where the hell did the first one come from? It's much better with the dead just rising, all of them.

8. The soundtrack was awful. The Muzak that made the first one great was gone, replaced by some idiot covering Disturbed (one of the s**tiest nu-metal bands) like a lounge singer. Very funny

 

[ToddIsDead]

First, I must applaud the Joker. Great post sir.

Second, the only one who should remake Day of the Dead is George Romero himself. I would love to see what his original epic vision of the movie was, before he was made to scale it down. Even then, it would still be weird and I wouldn't be completely cool with it. I hate remakes.

 

[kainedamo]

If I could see you, I would slap you right now...

1. They had no real reason for going to the mall. They just pulled the idea out of there asses. I guess they wanted to get some shopping done or something?

Um... it was the closest place to them?? It was what was most handy at the time. And as it turned out, the decision to go there was wise.

[qoute]2. The security guards were a**holes for no reason. Why the hell would anyone act like they were still doing there job when it's the zombie apocalypse outside? And how he suddenly changed over to being all noble at the end for no reason? What was that about?[/quote]

Alot of good horror films have one or two guys that act like jerks for seemingly no reason. The power went to their heads. They saw that they had this tiny bit of power and decided to take it. It made things very interesting. The guy your talking about, he was a total badass!! At the start he was on a power trip but he soon wised up. It's no deeper than that.

3. All the other characters were incredibly generic. You had ******** ladies man, bad ass, crazy girl who breaks down because she's a girl, crazy guy who breaks down because he's a big girl, and strong feamle lead. They had no real development for any of them because they were trying to fit way too many characters into at once. The original only worked as well as it did because there were only 4 people, and 1 of them wasnt even in it for the whole time.

They're very different movies. That was your first mistake. You shouldn't try to compare them, they're very different kinds of horror movies. The original is classic and great for what it is. It's good that it has time to focus on only a small amount of characters. But the remake is a different movie. I thought it was very good for what it was.

4. The girl with the dog was a giant f**king idiot, and I doubt would have even lasted long enough to get to the damn mall in the first place with her care more for the life of pets than her own.

I think everyone that watched the movie thought she was an idiot. What's your problem with one character that behaves like an idiot? It made things more interesting. Your actually shouting "No!! Ah!! Don't do that you idiot!!"

5. The zombies ran. What the f**k? It worked in 28 days later because they werent really zombies. And it doesnt make any sense. If you die the first thing that happens is rigor mortis, so you would be much to stiff to do anything other than shamble around very stiffly. Then everything goes loose, so you wouldnt be able to do anything other than shamble around loosely.

Do you really know that for sure?? No ones ever been undead before, you really can't be sure about that. For all you know, zombies would have the ability to run, and then maybe later when they're falling apart they could lose it.

6. The wait time for becoming a zombie was incredibly inconsitent, but always way too short.

I wouldn't say inconsistent, in every case it was quick. If the person is already dead it's faster, but if the person is still alive it takes longer to turn.

7. Why the hell did they make it so you had to be bitten? If you had to be bitten, how the hell did the infection spread so quickly? Where the hell did the first one come from? It's much better with the dead just rising, all of them.

I'm not sure been awhile since I watched it. But as far as I remember it wasn't cleared up one way or the other about whether every dead person turned or if it was just people that were bitten.

Your complaints are minor. Sure, the film isn't gonna be everyones cup of tea. But you're trying too hard to measure the film up against the original, when it should be looked at as an individual movie.

 

[Horrorfan]

If I could see you, I would slap you right now...

1. They had no real reason for going to the mall. They just pulled the idea out of there asses. I guess they wanted to get some shopping done or something?

2. The security guards were a**holes for no reason. Why the hell would anyone act like they were still doing there job when it's the zombie apocalypse outside? And how he suddenly changed over to being all noble at the end for no reason? What was that about?

3. All the other characters were incredibly generic. You had ******** ladies man, bad ass, crazy girl who breaks down because she's a girl, crazy guy who breaks down because he's a big girl, and strong feamle lead. They had no real development for any of them because they were trying to fit way too many characters into at once. The original only worked as well as it did because there were only 4 people, and 1 of them wasnt even in it for the whole time.

4. The girl with the dog was a giant f**king idiot, and I doubt would have even lasted long enough to get to the damn mall in the first place with her care more for the life of pets than her own.

5. The zombies ran. What the f**k? It worked in 28 days later because they werent really zombies. And it doesnt make any sense. If you die the first thing that happens is rigor mortis, so you would be much to stiff to do anything other than shamble around very stiffly. Then everything goes loose, so you wouldnt be able to do anything other than shamble around loosely.

6. The wait time for becoming a zombie was incredibly inconsitent, but always way too short.

7. Why the hell did they make it so you had to be bitten? If you had to be bitten, how the hell did the infection spread so quickly? Where the hell did the first one come from? It's much better with the dead just rising, all of them.

8. The soundtrack was awful. The Muzak that made the first one great was gone, replaced by some idiot covering Disturbed (one of the s**tiest nu-metal bands) like a lounge singer. Very funny

I would kick you in the balls , but seeing as you didnt like the remake you probably don't have any

People like you are confused. You think because it came first or was more groundbreaking, it makes the original better. No, it just makes it the first to do it. sure it deserves credit for it, but the movies aged horribly. poor acting, poor effects, everything about it screams CHEESE. Its more funny now than anything.

But to your points

(1) why did they go to the mall in the original? This one is a no brainer....it has supplies and relative safty assuming you can wipe it out. Come on man, that shouldnt even be a serious question if you have half a brain.

(2) some people in the real world (shock coming up) ARE *******s for no reason. But even these had semi good reasons...they WANTED the mall to themselves. everyone else, to them, was intruders. Its territorial behaviour.

(3) I think the characters were great, unlike the bland people in the original (white swat guy, black swat guy, moody chick, moody pilot). they had other emotions other than siting around sulking and feeling sorry for themselves. basically, they weren't boring.


(4) if you loved a pet, and just after loosing your whole family, i think you would want to try and save it too, as irrational as it may be.

5. You have never met a real zombie, so you cant say **** about if they can run or not. oh yeah I forgot, people like you just fear change. besides if you wanna get technical, george romeros zombies arent even real zombies. so if you want to say one thing isnt zombies, you gotta include the originals too (zombies are originally from voodoo, and nothing like the flesh munchers in romeros movies).


6. infection from any disease can be inconsistant. if you get the flu and a friend does, who the **** says there is a definite time table of symptoms and infection? different people have different immune systems. again, yet another obvious point if you actually thought about it.

7. if your bitten, its infered that its some kind of virus. do you relaly want the full origin?? i mean its fairly obvious how a virus like that would replicate....you bite, pass it on, they bite, pass it on, and so on and so fourth. before anyone realised the true danger it would probably be way too late. if you cant imagine that, then you have no imagination.

8. i think down with the sickness was much more intense and kick ass that cheesy 70s techno pop, but thats just me.

 

[thedeadite]

richard cheese is hilarious

dawn of the dead remake was a decent modern horror flick..but in no way can compare to the original....Romero's zombie flicks where never really about the zombies..the main stories where social commentaries with the zombie threat in the backround (for the most part)

i will say that of the recent classic horror remakes...dawn of the dead was the only one that i actually enjoyed though...when i stopped looking at it as "dawn of the dead" and just watched it as a zombie movie.

 

[StrainedEyes]

Maybe Captain Rhodes will end up being the twin brother of the Ving character in Dawn of the Dead. It was never proved that his brother died.

 

[FOG3]

Originally posted by The Joker
1. They had no real reason for going to the mall. They just pulled the idea out of there asses. I guess they wanted to get some shopping done or something?

Yeh, I said in another post that this movie had more in common with 28 days later than the original Dawn. If they had gone somewhere other than the mall it could've been a totally new zombie flick and I wouldnt have been so hard on it. There were some really good ideas but I could never get over that it was pretty much tied to another movie for no reason.. its a remake that basically proved to me they dont need to be doing remakes in the first place.

Now Day of the Dead is being remade? I think thats my favorite one out of the series, and the fact that theyre even bothering is just so annoying to me... I will have no problem skipping this one.

 

[Matt]

Here is the reason Dawn of the Dead (the remake) sucks. Zombie movies are only as good as their characters. Afterall, without interesting characters, every zombie movie is the same. You have thousands of zombies pounding on doors and windows trying to eat the few survivors. What set the original Dawn of the Dead apart is that you cared about these people barricaded in the mall. They gave the audience a reason to give a damn whether they lived or died. Without that element, the movie will inevitably suck. The remake Dawn of the Dead gave us cliches, none of which were developed. There was no reason to be invested in these character's survival, and in the end...that is why it was a bad movie.

 

[black_dust]

Here is the reason Dawn of the Dead (the remake) sucks. Zombie movies are only as good as their characters. Afterall, without interesting characters, every zombie movie is the same. You have thousands of zombies pounding on doors and windows trying to eat the few survivors. What set the original Dawn of the Dead apart is that you cared about these people barricaded in the mall. They gave the audience a reason to give a damn whether they lived or died. Without that element, the movie will inevitably suck. The remake Dawn of the Dead gave us cliches, none of which were developed. There was no reason to be invested in these character's survival, and in the end...that is why it was a bad movie.

Agreed, and the theme with every Dead film is "The zombies arent the bad guys its the people that are living" but with Dawn remake you didn`t really feel that way.

 

[kainedamo]

It's a different movie! It's a different movie! Stop comparing it to the original!

I thought the remake was kick ass. I enjoyed the characters for what they were. Sure, it's not got the delopment and hasn't got as much to say, but it's a well made, tense action/horror flick and pretty faced paced. It's good, but for entirely different reasons than why the original was good.

 

[Horrorfan]

I can't believe people think the original dawn had better characters....god bless romero for inventing the modern zombie, he was a groundbreaking film maker, but the actors were wooden, and the characters only had one dimension to them: sulky. You never really see any other side to them apart from them sitting around feeling sorry for themselves.


and so what if the film didnt have a lot to say? most films that have a message usually has a liberal slant that tries to force its views on everyone, and it could also be said that it's also a bit hypocritical of George to insult consumer culture since without it, he wouldn't be making movies (and though it's peanuts, $1 million bucks is a decadant amount to spend when you're bashing capitalisim and consumerisum yet spending someone else's cash).

 

[Flexo]

I can't believe people think the original dawn had better characters....god bless romero for inventing the modern zombie, he was a groundbreaking film maker, but the actors were wooden, and the characters only had one dimension to them: sulky. You never really see any other side to them apart from them sitting around feeling sorry for themselves.

Okay, I'm calling you out. You've never seen the original Dawn of the Dead, have you?

Seriously, Roger didn't spend all his time moping. Peter and him would make jokes, even when outside the mall. And what about when all the characters are going around the mall picking up whatever they want?

 

[Horrorfan]

Okay, I'm calling you out. You've never seen the original Dawn of the Dead, have you?

Seriously, Roger didn't spend all his time moping. Peter and him would make jokes, even when outside the mall. And what about when all the characters are going around the mall picking up whatever they want?

I can't remember many jokes. Maybe one or two but nothing significant. and the second part, well, that wasnt funny, thats what you WOULD do in a mall if you didnt have to pay for anything. It wasn't particular to them.

 

[CrypticOne]

This is a sequel to Dawn of the Dead?

 

[Flexo]

I can't remember many jokes. Maybe one or two but nothing significant. and the second part, well, that wasnt funny, thats what you WOULD do in a mall if you didnt have to pay for anything. It wasn't particular to them.

While they were shopping, they weren't acting depressed.

There are many moments in the film were the characters act like they're trying to adjust, not just sinking into a state of self pity.