Days of Future Past Days of Future Past News and Discussion - Part 2

[Deaths Head II]

On top of preferring X-Men on their own, I would rather not let the directionless X-Men franchise confuse the comparatively way more tight-knit Marvel film universe. Fox's X-Universe can't even keep it's own cameos straight between films and I don't want them adding their continuity issues to the Marvel films.

 

[The Infernal]

It's possible. Singer hinted that Apocalypse may be in this movie.

I don't want him to play that much of a role yet though.

When did this happen? All I remember reading about that is one article where they claim that Apocalypse is probably in the movie because they read something into Bryan's reaction to questions about him.

 

[X-Maniac]

On top of preferring X-Men on their own, I would rather not let the directionless X-Men franchise confuse the comparatively way more tight-knit Marvel film universe. Fox's X-Universe can't even keep it's own cameos straight between films and I don't want them adding their continuity issues to the Marvel films.

I wonder if this big announcement is some sort of crossover movie, perhaps with heroes (Avengers and Fantastic Four, perhaps?) going up against Galactus.

Marvel/Disney must be desperate to get their hands on Galactus, Silver Surfer, Skrulls, etc.

Some sort of crossover might make sense. For Marvel/Disney, the advantage is creative (in being able to use these characters and not be so restricted), for Fox it's financial (because, let's face it, the X-Men and FF films have never reached the box office heights of Avengers).

But who knows what they have in mind.

 

[X-Maniac]

When did this happen? All I remember reading about that is one article where they claim that Apocalypse is probably in the movie because they read something into Bryan's reaction to questions about him.

The thing is that no one has denied that Apocalypse is in the movie. Singer could have responded in another way.

I'm not sure it would be wise for them to build expectation that he is in the movie if he isn't.

Difficult to know what they have in mind. Apocalypse could be in the movie, or they might have a teaser/cliffhanger to him being in the next movie. Lauren Shuler Donner did talk previously of an X4 leading directly into an X5 and in the animated series, the attempts to change the future in DoFP triggered the Age of Apocalypse.

They have combined storylines before. X2 combined God Loves Man Kills, part of the Phoenix Saga and Wolverine's origins all into one movie in a very natural way, because all three elements were linked to each other. X3 didn't manage to combine Dark Phoenix and The Cure very well at all, because the two plots weren't linked by good storytelling.

 

[marvelrobbins]

People are remembering the animated series wrong.

Days of future past was done In season 1 as part of their way to get the then very popular Bishop Into show and part of season 1 storyline Involving sentinles.

One's Man worth was their attempt to do their own version of age of apocalpse.And you
can call that a ripoff of the terminator.

 

[The Infernal]

The thing is that no one has denied that Apocalypse is in the movie. Singer could have responded in another way.

I'm not sure it would be wise for them to build expectation that he is in the movie if he isn't.

No. Thing is that people are reading into something that could be anything and calling it a hint based on nothing substantial. They're hardly going to deny every rumour that's floating about the net. That's never been how it works. The absence of evidence is not evidence itself.

If there is another article or interview where Singer actually did hint at something then I'll entertain it, but I'm not about to pretend that an interviewer reading a lot into the way Singer answered a question is an actual hint.

 

[Mr.M]

New Marvel Fox announcement in the next months huh? Sweet! Hope its Deadpool, Silver Surfer or X Force. I doubt they announce anything post DOFP for the main series this early.

I think it will be some FF news, or plans to combine the two universes. I don't think X-4 will be on the table until next year earliest. Even then, the cast is getting older and I think DoFP will be the last hoorah of sorts if I had to guess. A sequel to DoFP set in the 80's seems more likely.

Unfortunately, the only deals I can see being worked out between the MCU and Fox are part time character loans and small side deals. I don't think the universes can be creatively combined until the rights revert. So I think we may see Silver Surfer in the MCU while the rights are still at Fox. Or Black Panther with Fox.

What's the easiest way to get these characters exposure? By introducing them in established franchises. BP by himself will probably flop. SS movie is risky considering the budget it needs.

Another unlikely but plausible possibility, the Fox universe could acknowledge events in the MCU and vice versa, so while we may not get cameos, we can get small easter eggs here and there.

However, if Fox intends to combine X-Men and FF together, I think there is enough there for a cohesive universe, and they will work with whatever they have. MCU will not be a part of it in any way. I don't think Marvel/Disney cares about combining mutants into their world. Cosmic beings like Galactuc and SS are a much higher priority, so much so that they were willing to forgo rights for Dare Devil.

 

[X-Maniac]

No. Thing is that people are reading into something that could be anything and calling it a hint based on nothing substantial. They're hardly going to deny every rumour that's floating about the net. That's never been how it works. The absence of evidence is not evidence itself.

If there is another article or interview where Singer actually did hint at something then I'll entertain it, but I'm not about to pretend that an interviewer reading a lot into the way Singer answered a question is an actual hint.

I guess that's one way of looking at it. On the bright side, the speculation is helping build buzz for the movie, even if that gossip turns out to be without any substance whatsoever.

 

[The Infernal]

Oh, you and your optimism.

 

[X-Maniac]

Oh, you and your optimism.

How would you prefer I look at it?

 

[def28]

I think it will be some FF news, or plans to combine the two universes. I don't think X-4 will be on the table until next year earliest. Even then, the cast is getting older and I think DoFP will be the last hoorah of sorts if I had to guess. A sequel to DoFP set in the 80's seems more likely.

I really hope it is that a deal has been made with Marvel and Fox. I doubt that it will be FF combining with X Men news. Last we heard about that, they said it wouldnt be till the FF are established and we have alot of time before the film is released. With a 2015 release date I doubt it will be casting for that film either.

The FF film didnt get much past 300m WW and I dont think the sequel even got to 300. X Men even with FC and Wolverine still grossed more. They really gain nothing by crossing them over this early. Fans are not exactly wanting this to happen either.

My guess is for a new X Men property (DP, New Mutants, X Force). The expanding of X Men makes more sense and they wont cost as much as a FF or main X film. Millars job seems to be looking at options for other films, not setting up Singers next ones. So I highly doubt anything related to FC or the Main series will be announced this early before DOFP comes out.

FC proved even with the ****tiest X men roster the X Men still sell haha. So I really don't look at it as a big risk at this point, and after DOFP people will be wanting more X Men. FF seems the more sketchy imo. Im sure a SS movie is at the least being discussed, but its gonna be pricey. Sooner or later those films will happen.

 

[The Infernal]

How would you prefer I look at it?

I'm only kidding.

 

[X-Maniac]

I'm only kidding.

Oh, okay, I thought you were wanting me to be cynical, negative and embittered. I tend to be a 'glass half-full' kinda person, though that's increasingly difficult in these grim times.

 

[GuestStar2004]

is it certain that the fantasic 4 reboot will be set in the 60s?

 

[X-Maniac]

is it certain that the fantasic 4 reboot will be set in the 60s?

The time period of the reboot hasn't been given. The 60s is possible, given the space race of that era, but I think it's more likely to be a modern-day setting so they can interact with other characters.

Starting them in the 60s and then moving to present day would mean recasting, and that's not likely so soon after a reboot. They will probably want to stick with the new cast from the reboot.

 

[The Infernal]

Oh, okay, I thought you were wanting me to be cynical, negative and embittered. I tend to be a 'glass half-full' kinda person, though that's increasingly difficult in these grim times.

No, no. Don't you worry, I have all those bases covered.

 

[Mr.M]

is it certain that the fantasic 4 reboot will be set in the 60s?

60's would leave me inclined to believe that they have at least discussed a model or proposal to eventually combine forces with the MCU. A 60's movie doesn't overlap with Avengers timelines and can setup the Silver Age MCU. It could be key for getting the more flamboyant Marvel characters out of the woodwork in a hippies style superhero universe set in the heart of the Space Age. I'd say the chances they go this route are maybe 15%. Everything we heard up till this point suggests the reboot will be an updated take on the series. But a 60's movie does set up the possibility of merging both worlds down the road. You have to think Avengers timeline is post 2000, so a 60's FF series between the events of CA: TFA and Avenger movies is a shoe in in terms of continuity.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

I think it will be some FF news, or plans to combine the two universes. I don't think X-4 will be on the table until next year earliest. Even then, the cast is getting older and I think DoFP will be the last hoorah of sorts if I had to guess. A sequel to DoFP set in the 80's seems more likely.

Unfortunately, the only deals I can see being worked out between the MCU and Fox are part time character loans and small side deals. I don't think the universes can be creatively combined until the rights revert. So I think we may see Silver Surfer in the MCU while the rights are still at Fox. Or Black Panther with Fox.

What's the easiest way to get these characters exposure? By introducing them in established franchises. BP by himself will probably flop. SS movie is risky considering the budget it needs.

Another unlikely but plausible possibility, the Fox universe could acknowledge events in the MCU and vice versa, so while we may not get cameos, we can get small easter eggs here and there.

However, if Fox intends to combine X-Men and FF together, I think there is enough there for a cohesive universe, and they will work with whatever they have. MCU will not be a part of it in any way. I don't think Marvel/Disney cares about combining mutants into their world. Cosmic beings like Galactuc and SS are a much higher priority, so much so that they were willing to forgo rights for Dare Devil.

eh.... i don't think Black Panther will flop at all... he's something yet to be seen on screen imo

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

This is what I think is going to happen:

X-Men are going to be rebooted like Fantastic Four. Completely new (and younger) cast that can interact not only with new FOX properties (like the aforementioned new FF) but also be on par with what's going on in MCU. And before anyone says, "There hasn't been enough time between films"--look at Superman Returns vs. Man Of Steel, the Toby Maguire Spider-Man films vs. The Amazing Spider-Man, the old FF films vs. Trask's new project, etc. These studios are no longer waiting "years" to fix s*** or even restart franchises that have been huge profit-makers. Nolan's Dark Knight run is OVER and now it's going to be reimagined in the likeness of Man Of Steel so they can get their own Justice League movie off the ground. So basically, everyone is relaunching their stuff now...except FOX's X-Men.

FOX stands to make a lot of $$$ by mixing their characters with the bigger selling franchises at Marvel, but there would have to be some conditions: Let's keep it real: there is no way that Marvel is going to allow Halle Berry as Storm in their universe, or a dead/MIA Cyclops, etc. That is all FOX's s*** and would die with a new envisioning of the franchise.

And isn't it about time? The current X-cast has done a good job but they've been on the map for 13, 14 years now and it's time to retire the 90's feeling sitcom. Let's face it: there are far more things WRONG with the current X-Men/Wolverine franchise than right. First Class was a step in the right direction. They need to continue with it and go all the way.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Ok we get It you hate the X-men films.

They aren't going to make any deal with disney.Announcing a reboot before DOfp Is even In theatres Is kiss of death.

The spider-Man trilogy was more sucessful than the Amaging Spider-Man.

 

[Angamb]

If Fox really wanted a reboot, they would have done it with FC. without Bryan Singer been signed as first director, and without connections to original trilogy.

And now that Singer is finally back as the director, and with the return of 8 actors of original trilogy, it really isnt the right moment to reboot.

if DOFP is a huge movie, the fans will want to see more of THAT. Same as Fox, so to reboot just after this sequel is really really risky.

And would that lead to a Third Charles Xavier, and probably a third Magneto?

Seems really unlikely if you ask me. Its isnt the same case as Superman movies, or Spiderman reboot.

If DOFP is a huge success, it will be because the two already introduced casts, not just because 'X-men sells', since we have already seen it hasnt sold that much yet.

So to drop all of DOFP strengths isnt a smart decision.

 

[georgec]

The nice thing about time travel is that you can do a reboot without doing a reboot.

 

[Mad Ones]

I feel like this movie is going to be the swan song for the original trilogy cast. A well respected departure for everyone to make up for X3. Which is why I believe James and Famke will be included in some capacity.

 

[psylockolussus]

Why do people keep saying that this will be the last film for the original cast? Because the fans prefer the cast of First Class more, that the series will thrive more by rebooting this series just like Fantastic Four/Spider-Man, to be more creative by focusing on smaller characters/spin-offs. This is the first movie of the original since 2006, making this as their last movie or the last movie in the series before the reboot is not smart. And as if the original cast are tired of appearing in X-Men movies, they are all excited and willing to return in a X-Men movie. They have the original masterminds of this series- Bryan Singer and Lauren Shuler Donner on board, a reboot isn't happening any time soon.

 

[Norek]

Why do people keep saying that this will be the last film for the original cast? Because the fans prefer the cast of First Class more, that the series will thrive more by rebooting this series just like Fantastic Four/Spider-Man, to be more creative by focusing on smaller characters/spin-offs. This is the first movie of the original since 2006, making this as their last movie or the last movie in the series before the reboot is not smart. And as if the original cast are tired of appearing in X-Men movies, they are all excited and willing to return in a X-Men movie. They have the original masterminds of this series- Bryan Singer and Lauren Shuler Donner on board, a reboot isn't happening any time soon.

Maybe because the actors are getting older and some of them may not be able to do this forever, or maybe because we had a shift in focus in FC, so it seems logical to carry on with it... I don't know why other people keep saying it, but I can tell you why I think this may be the last film for them.

Knowing that this movie will bring up the whole time-travel, parallel universe thing to the franchise, I feel like it would be the perfect send-off to the old cast. I feel like we didn't get the ending we deserved, so this is a chance for Singer to end the OT respectfully, the way he intends to, so even if he never returns to the franchise after this, he would know that there won't be someone like Ratner who'll come after and **** up everything.

Besides, if DOFP is all about going back to the past to chance something, that might mean that the OT will remain in a parallel universe to the FC one (if they successfully chance the past of course) one the movie ends, like the new Star Trek. Talking about time travel is confusing indeed. But I feel like there would be no better time to wrap up the OT than now. I would much rather prefer to see a good ending to their story, than to see it stretch out to something like X3.

But who knows?