DC ELSEWORLDS: Reimagining Keaton Sequels & DC Films that Never Were

[Frodo]

That's what I'm talking about!

The flying scene would be rad as hell, watching Diana go from TV super-jumps to big-screen wire-work to rival Superman all like "Yeah, she flies now."

Another big one would be seeing Themiscyra and something like the young Diana opening.

I also had the idea of flashing back to WWII, since the TV show shifted the setting to present day after the first season in order to save money. This could play into the story as well; show Diana picking up one of her old cases in a plot that bridges the two eras. Lyle Waggoner would of course play both Steve and Steve Jr. and really show off how he makes the two characters distinct. Come to think of it, that'd be another way to reconfigure the body-switch idea.

(While I was image searching, I learned that Waggoner almost landed Batman instead of Adam West. The hits just keep on coming.)

I could certainly see them creating a much more massive Themiscrya than the budget of the tv series , and it probably would have combine real sets and locations with mat paintings.

I could see wonder woman's home island, during the contest sequences, looking akin to some of these locations from 80s era films

Conan the Barbarian

Vulcan, Star Trek 3

The original Clash of the Titans , 1981

The Never ending Story


I could also see Ursula Andress as Antiope to Cloris Leachman's Hippolyta

And I could see the actor who played Short Round from Indian Jones playing Maxwell's son

Lyle Waggoner was pretty close to being or first TV Batman

 

[Jordacar]

What's funny is that the bullets/bracelets effect...they pretty much nailed it the first time.

 

[Airwings]

I imagine that the Aquaman, Flash, Wonder Woman, and Superman films all take place in the Burtonverse with alot of Batman hints and nods.

As such, Burton would radically reinterpret the costumes in some cases, with the typical 90s tendency to have heroes all look similar to Keaton's Batman by wearing mostly armored black costumes as opposed to brighter colors of their comic book counterparts..


I think of the aesthetic of tv and film Superhero properties from the 90s like this in terms of blacks, and greys in their suits

I like your idea of the cathedral like structures in Burtons Atlantis.
I gotta think that's what Burton's Atlantis would look like.

As far as Van Dien and Ulrich go, it's totally 90s casting.
Van Dien was popular due to Starship Troopers and Ulrich had Scream , so they were both two "of the moment" guys briefly in the late 90s.

Casper had a brief role in Sleepy Hollow, so that would have been wear Burton thought of him for the role.

Maybe Burton is preparing for his own JL then

But if he's gonna do what you suggest - have all of them them wear black leather suits - it would take away most of the magic.
Singer made the early X-Men look like bikers. That would totally not work here.

Who's that in your third pic? He could pass for Ocean Master.

While your actor choices were much in demand during late 90s, they were also flavor of the month back then
In the case with Ulrich and Dien, they were also products of the time and they both lacked something that could have made their careers longer.

I too believe Burton would have gone all gothic with Atlantis. The Gotham of the sea.
Maybe change it into a nightmare realm with monsters straight out of hell?
You know what he did with Penguin, lol

Two of my pics disappeared. I want you to see them
Here are links

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/b...st/scale-to-width-down/1000?cb=20170307134419

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/b...est/scale-to-width-down/640?cb=20130813005354

 

[Frodo]

SMALLVILLE : THE ADVENTURES OF SUPERBOY (1957 through 1960)
Producer : William Dozier

The Cast

Clark : Richard Beymer

Lana : Nancy Kwan

Pete : Ivan Dixon

Lex : Dennis Hopper

Chloe : Shirley Maclaine

Whitney : Tucker Smith

Johnathan Kent : John Wayne

Martha Kent : Greer Garson

Lionel Luther : Vincent Price

Jor El voice and Flashbacks : Charles Laughton

 

[Frodo]

Maybe Burton is preparing for his own JL then

But if he's gonna do what you suggest - have all of them them wear black leather suits - it would take away most of the magic.
Singer made the early X-Men look like bikers. That would totally not work here.

Who's that in your third pic? He could pass for Ocean Master.

While your actor choices were much in demand during late 90s, they were also flavor of the month back then
In the case with Ulrich and Dien, they were also products of the time and they both lacked something that could have made their careers longer.

I too believe Burton would have gone all gothic with Atlantis. The Gotham of the sea.
Maybe change it into a nightmare realm with monsters straight out of hell?
You know what he did with Penguin, lol

Two of my pics disappeared. I want you to see them
Here are links

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/b...st/scale-to-width-down/1000?cb=20170307134419

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/b...est/scale-to-width-down/640?cb=20130813005354

I should have been clearer that I actually imagine Burton going more of the Black rubber route of Mantis and Nightman ,

I meant to use the X men and Nick Fury pics as examples of the trend at the time to have heroes dressed in black, but even still , you're correct ,that the " What If " Burton vision of Aquaman would take away alot of the magic from the characters myths.

Instead, it would be very much a mixture of the gothic , dark , fairly tale , type of tone that Burton likes combined with the trend of Black suited or armored heroes of the 1990s

I imagine that it would be one of those films that people would look back on now and ask "why didn't they just use the original costumes?" in addition to being the type of film in which people today would say , " That's very 1998" .

It would be one of those films that were very much identified with the moment in time they were made in , but would be considered dated in terms of the look , the casting, the music soundtrack , etc, to the 1990s.

Unfortunately I could see the pics that you posted.

 

[Frodo]

In a world of Cops, Punks, and Freaks, there's two sides to every story...

HARVEY (1992)
Director : Brian De Palma

The Cast

Harvey Dent/ Two Face : Mel Gibson

Gilda Dent : Annabella Sciorra

Sal "Boss" Maroni : Harvey Kietel

Carmine " The Roman" Falcone : Michael Gambon

Albert Falcone : Patrick Dempsey

Sophie Falcone : Linda Fiorentino

James Gordon : Robert Duvall

Batman / Bruce Wayne : Alec Baldwin

Flass : Clancy Brown

Christopher Dent flashbacks : Ed Harris

Rupert Thorne : Danny Aiello

Tony Zucco : Gabriel Olds

Catwoman / Selina Kyle : Laura San Giacomo

 

[Airwings]

I should have been clearer that I actually imagine Burton going more of the Black rubber route of Mantis and Nightman ,

I meant to use the X men and Nick Fury pics as examples of the trend at the time to have heroes dressed in black, but even still , you're correct ,that the " What If " Burton vision of Aquaman would take away alot of the magic from the characters myths.

Instead, it would be very much a mixture of the gothic , dark , fairly tale , type of tone that Burton likes combined with the trend of Black suited or armored heroes of the 1990s

I imagine that it would be one of those films that people would look back on now and ask "why didn't they just use the original costumes?" in addition to being the type of film in which people today would say , " That's very 1998" .

It would be one of those films that were very much identified with the moment in time they were made in , but would be considered dated in terms of the look , the casting, the music soundtrack , etc, to the 1990s.

Unfortunately I could see the pics that you posted.

So the guy who almost comes off as Ocean Master is actually a character called Mantis?
Never heard about him. Who's he??

I hope Burton would knew better than going all black and taking away the magic.
His Cage Supes had a suit with more vibrant colors, atleast.
But do you think he would have followed the 90s trend in the costume department?
Not making his own trends?

Lol, yes. There's a chance that people today will look back at the film, shake their heads, and ask what the studio and director were thinking.
Maybe Burton will step forward and say he's sorry for the mess of the film he did back then
Schumacher did!

However, it's not a bad thing per se to make a film that's typical for its own time. If it's good enough, it will survive the test of time and become timeless..
Look at T2, Jurassic Park, Ghostbusters, BTTF, Karate Kid etc etc
Some look more dated than others, like the cheesy Total Recall. But it's still held in high regards.

If the cast and soundtrack feel dated, but still have quality, it's not a failure at all
It would rather be pure nostalgia then. Something that people will look back at with fond memories.
But there are examples that never struck the right chords, not even during its own time.
Batman & Robin!!!! lol

 

[Frodo]

So the guy who almost comes off as Ocean Master is actually a character called Mantis?
Never heard about him. Who's he??

I hope Burton would knew better than going all black and taking away the magic.
His Cage Supes had a suit with more vibrant colors, atleast.
But do you think he would have followed the 90s trend in the costume department?
Not making his own trends?

Lol, yes. There's a chance that people today will look back at the film, shake their heads, and ask what the studio and director were thinking.
Maybe Burton will step forward and say he's sorry for the mess of the film he did back then
Schumacher did!

However, it's not a bad thing per se to make a film that's typical for its own time. If it's good enough, it will survive the test of time and become timeless..
Look at T2, Jurassic Park, Ghostbusters, BTTF, Karate Kid etc etc
Some look more dated than others, like the cheesy Total Recall. But it's still held in high regards.

If the cast and soundtrack feel dated, but still have quality, it's not a failure at all
It would rather be pure nostalgia then. Something that people will look back at with fond memories.
But there are examples that never struck the right chords, not even during its own time.
Batman & Robin!!!! lol

He's a hero only I remember I think.
He had a very brief series and tv movie on Fox when Fox was really starting hit it's stride .
MANTIS was actually played by Supergirl's Carl Lumley, and it was the first thing I ever same him in.

I think he was paralyzed and the suit gave him the ability to walk, if I remember correctly.
I don't think the series even lasted a full season , but in those very dry days of new superhero live action content , it was a brief distraction to watch.
It was sort of the take what you can get days of the mid 1990s .

 

[Jordacar]

^You forgot to mention that it was a Sam Raimi / Rob Tapert production

 

[Frodo]

From the producers of Dark Shadows

DOCTOR FATE (1966-1968)

The Cast

Doctor Fate /Kent Nelson : Richard Burton

Inza Nelson :Rosenda Monteros

Zatanna : Marlo Thomas

Hawkman : Charlton Heston

Hawkgirl : Inger Stevens

Etigan : Albert Finney

Constatine : Michael Caine

Deadman : Alan Deleon

The Spectre : Robert Stack

Jonah Hex : James Colburn

Vandal Savage : Ricardo Montalban

Firestorm / Ronnie Raymond , Professor Stein : Gary Lockwood and Peter Cushing

 

[Airwings]

He's a hero only I remember I think.
He had a very brief series and tv movie on Fox when Fox was really starting hit it's stride .
MANTIS was actually played by Supergirl's Carl Lumley, and it was the first thing I ever same him in.

I think he was paralyzed and the suit gave him the ability to walk, if I remember correctly.
I don't think the series even lasted a full season , but in those very dry days of new superhero live action content , it was a brief distraction to watch.
It was sort of the take what you can get days of the mid 1990s .

Thanks for the update!
It was an interesting costume with the metallic parts
(but I guess the designers used plastic for that... it's cheaper, and easier to wear)

 

[The Lazarus Pit]

John Carpenter’s
BATMAN
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[Frodo]

John Carpenter’s
BATMAN​

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Awesome.
I watched escape from New York a couple nights ago and then did a John Carpenter TMNT casting on the Cast in a previous time thread.

I also think that Tom Akins ( Halloween 3, Escape From New York,The Fog) would have made a pretty good Carpenter Gordon

 

[Airwings]

WARNER BROTHERS PICTURES PRESENTS

WONDER WOMAN (1996)
Director : Tim Burton
Producer : Jon Peters
Script : Kevin Smith and Daniel Waters
Music : Danny Elfman

Cast

Wonder Woman/ Diana Prince : Geena Davis

Steve Trevor : Bill Pullman

Cheetah/ Barbara Minerva : Catherine O' Hara

Dr. Pyscho : Danny Devito

Antiope : Susan Sarandon

Hippolyta : Glenn Close

Etta Candy : Kathy Bates

Burton's Paradise Island

Burton doing a gothic Wonder Woman
I see that you have pics of black costumes

Geena Davis would kill it as WW. Such obvious actress.
Pullman will be a very good Steve.
I imagine O'Hara doing a hysterical Cheetah, lol

With Burton onboard and in full creative control, Paradise Island will have a very different meaning. ROFL

 

[Frodo]

Burton doing a gothic Wonder Woman
I see that you have pics of black costumes

Geena Davis would kill it as WW. Such obvious actress.
Pullman will be a very good Steve.
I imagine O'Hara doing a hysterical Cheetah, lol

With Burton onboard and in full creative control, Paradise Island will have a very different meaning. ROFL

Glad you like it Airwings.

I also think O'Hara would be hysterical and would go big in terms of acting as Cheetah.

Geena Davis would have been a great WW. She had presence and stature, in addition to having the ability to be warm, wise, and noble.

It's also easy to believe her as a warrior . At the same time, I could see her playing her shy and reserved alter ego Diana Prince .

I could totally see Pullman's Steve having some good one liners much like Pine's Steve Rogers.

 

[Airwings]

Unfortunately I could see the pics that you posted.

I saw this in a reply you gave earlier this week. It was about the cathedral pics
Did you mean fortunately or unfortunately ?

 

[The Lazarus Pit]

An idea of what a Justice League movie would have looked like had Warner Brothers started a DC Cinematic Universe with Christopher Nolan’s Batman Begins, Bryan Singer’s Superman Returns, Joss Whedon’s Wonder Woman, and David Goyer’s The Flash.​

JUSTICE LEAGUE (MAY 2009)

Superman - Brandon Routh



Batman - Christian Bale



Wonder Woman - Morena Baccarin



The Flash - Ryan Reynolds



Green Lantern - Nathan Fillion



Aquaman - Karl Urban



Martian Manhunter - Lance Reddick



Darkseid - Dennis Haysbert

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[Frodo]

I saw this in a reply you gave earlier this week. It was about the cathedral pics
Did you mean fortunately or unfortunately ?

I meant Unfortunately.

 

[Airwings]

I meant Unfortunately.

Why is it unfortunate that you saw the pics?

 

[Frodo]

Why is it unfortunate that you saw the pics? [/QUOTE]

I meant to write "unfortunately didn't see the pics" ..
Sorry about not making clear that Airwings.
I'm a Lois Lane type of writer in the spelling and grammer department.

 

[Airwings]

Why is it unfortunate that you saw the pics?

I meant to write "unfortunately didn't see the pics" ..
Sorry about not making clear that Airwings.
I'm a Lois Lane type of writer in the spelling and grammer department.[/QUOTE]
Lois Lane was given a Pulitzer prize. You must be a really good writer then

As long as you got to see all three pics, I'll satisfied

 

[Frodo]

I meant to write "unfortunately didn't see the pics" ..
Sorry about not making clear that Airwings.
I'm a Lois Lane type of writer in the spelling and grammer department.

Lois Lane was given a Pulitzer prize. You must be a really good writer then

As long as you got to see all three pics, I'll satisfied [/QUOTE]

Thanks Airwings.
The first Cathedral pic is showing up for me but the other two won't for some reason.

 

[Frodo]

From the director of T2 , Aliens, and The Abyss

WONDER WOMAN (1992)
Director : James Cameron

The Cast

Wonder Woman : Sigourney Weaver

Steve Trevor : Bill Paxton

Cheetah : Jamie Lee Curtis

Artemis : Linda Hamilton

Maxwell Lord : Robert Patrick

 

[Airwings]

Thanks Airwings.
The first Cathedral pic is showing up for me but the other two won't for some reason.

I posted a couple links.

Here they are again

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/b...st/scale-to-width-down/1000?cb=20170307134419

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/b...est/scale-to-width-down/640?cb=20130813005354

 

[Frodo]

BATMAN : JUDGEMENT KNIGHT (1992)
Director : James Cameron
Producer : Gale Ann Hurd
Script: James Cameron
FX : Stan Winston
Music : Brad Fidel

The Cast

Batman : Ed Harris, as a grizzled , 40 something, veteran , hard edged Batman.
He's Been Batman since his twenties, i.e. The 1970s.
By day he's Billionaire philanthropist and humanitarian Bruce Wayne.

Robin/ Jason Todd : Edward Furlong, the streetwise, angry, headstrong, and reckless second Robin with something to prove, not only to Batman, but himself.

Catwoman : Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio. Like Harris's Batman, she's been around awhile but shifts back and forth between both sides of the law when it suit her.

Alfred : Sean Connery, as a former SAS , Naval commander Alfred

James Gordon : Paul Winfield. Batman's longtime ally in the GCPD

Ra's Al Ghul : Art Malik. Head of the terrorist organization known as The League of Shadows who plans to unleash a nuclear weapon warhead in the center of Gotham .

Slade Wilson : Charlton Heston, older , Korea and Vietnam veteran version, now a mercenary who's forged an Alliance with the Dark Knight to stop Nuclear armageddon in Gotham.

Deadshot, secondary villain : Michael Biehn, working for The League of Shadows .

Lucius Fox : Joe Morton, Batman's other best friend and tech expert.

Leslie Thompkins : Gloria Stuart. Long time friend of the Wayne's and Bruce's surrogate Grandmother. She's the only person, aside from Alfred, that Bruce will listen to, even in his mid 40s.

Batmobile

Batwing