DC starts own Studio?!?!

[RAMORE]

I don't know if this has been talked about yet but on the hype's front page they had a story basically saying not that they were starting a studio (WB would revolt especially after TDK) but that they have one guy with five jobs trying to manage DC movies along with everything else and they don't get the attention they need. So they are looking into doing something about starting a division to confront this.

This all has to do with the HUGE $$$ TDK is making (the guy even says so in the story) they know if done right with more creative control (like Marvel) they can be really good money makers.

I for one am glad Now maybe I can see a Green Lanter movie before I die

 

[cerealkiller182]

If DC started a studio and WB owned DC wouldnt that mean WB owned DC's studio thus WB wouldnt reall care

 

[RAMORE]

Oh maybe...you have a point maybe they're planning something like that I would be in favor of it.

 

[Heretic]

I would assume that WB would have some say over what one of its divisions did, especially when it affects billions of dollars in revenue. That said, I would also assume that the WB execs would look at DC Comics as this silly little childrens company that cannt make any real decisions on how to make money (overlooking the billions and billions DC has made for the company over the years)

 

[RAMORE]

^true

 

[matrix_ghost]

Dc could be like Marvel , a producing their own properties with WB handling distribution. Of course WB would still be the main shareholder but i think that DC could benefit from this instead of having certain exec. , who don't have a clue about CB characters , pulling all the strings.
Of coure in order to to that , they need some $$$. But really if your parent company if WB , why doesn't WB not create a seperate division for DC

Heck they could've used alot of the fired employees of New Line to roll into DC

 

[The Major]

matrix:

That wont happen.

WB isn't going to let other studios make money off their own properties.

I have no clue how they sometimes lose their rights to other studios like Fox. That really shouldn't be able to happen.

 

[matrix_ghost]

matrix:

That wont happen.

WB isn't going to let other studios make money off their own properties.

I have no clue how they sometimes lose their rights to other studios like Fox. That really shouldn't be able to happen.

Who talking about losing the rights to other studios
Since WB owns DC , i'm pretty sure they own the rights to all DC characters.
Watchmen is a exception ( i think) due to the troubled project being passed to several studios.
But i think WB owns the vast majority of DC comics.

My point is that DC could become a production company with WB only distrubiting their movies. Of course all the revenue still goes to WB , only that in this case DC fully develops their own movies just as they want it.
You know without idiots like Jon Peters deciding that Superman shouldn't fly and should fight polar bears.
I think that is the main reason why several projects are in development hell. Exec. who really have no idea how to make certain comic book movies .

Get the people who know how to make this stuff. Surely the guys at DC know how and where to get good script writers .

 

[The Major]

Who talking about losing the rights to other studios
Since WB owns DC , i'm pretty sure they own the rights to all DC characters.
Watchmen is a exception ( i think) due to the troubled project being passed to several studios.

It may be an exception but I would have thought WB should have had better safeguards against that from happening. They have armies of lawyers just for stuff like that.

But i think WB owns the vast majority of DC comics.

They do.

My point is that DC could become a production company with WB only distrubiting their movies. Of course all the revenue still goes to WB , only that in this case DC fully develops their own movies just as they want it.

DC doesn't need to go that far. It just needs credibility to get things done within WB itself.

It needs a branch just for controlling adaptions.

You know without idiots like Jon Peters deciding that Superman shouldn't fly and should fight polar bears.

I know.

DC should be able to keep better control over who gets control of franchises to avoid this from happening.

The execs should be able to convince franchise experts of said franchises , like say Simone, Perez or Rucka for WW, that they understand the franchise before trying to adapt it. This should be mandatory.

I think that is the main reason why several projects are in development hell. Exec. who really have no idea how to make certain comic book movies.

Agreed.

For some reason they still think comics are below them.

Yet they're more then eager to get the credit and profits for successful films with are faithful to the comics.

There are exceptions, of course. But they are not the norm.

Get the people who know how to make this stuff. Surely the guys at DC know how and where to get good script writers .

Both sides need each other. WB does know more about making films then DC, but DC knows more about the franchises. WB holds the edge since they have the power in the relationship. Unfortunately that can become arrogance.

At the very least they need to be creative consultants with veto power for every draft for adaptions, the people making the calls actually understand the comics like Uslan and that these people have sufficient time just for supervising adaptions not just one thing in a list of priorities.

 

[Sawyer]

I'd poop a brick if DC started its own studio.

 

[GreenKToo]

(sigh) W.B. can't see the forest for the trees.

 

[REDophile]

The thing is, WB/DC are just too disorganized to get anything done. Yes, WB owns every single part of DC, but the rights to all of their films in development are assigned to different producers....
Jon Peters has Superman
Charles Roven has Batman and Flash
Michael Uslan has Batman and Shazam
Joel Silver has WW and Plastic Man
Donald DeLine has GL

In contrast, Kevin Feige oversees everything for Marvel and keeps the studios in check. There's no one like Feige that can do the same thing for WB/DC. Unless one WB exec steps up and takes a leadership role for all of DC, we're gonna keep hearing the same disappointing news.

 

[Sawyer]

The thing is, WB/DC are just too disorganized to get anything done. Yes, WB owns every single part of DC, but the rights to all of their films in development are assigned to different producers....
Jon Peters has Superman
Charles Roven has Batman and Flash
Michael Uslan has Batman and Shazam
Joel Silver has WW and Plastic Man
Donald DeLine has GL

In contrast, Kevin Feige oversees everything for Marvel and keeps the studios in check. There's no one like Feige that can do the same thing for WB/DC. Unless one WB exec steps up and takes a leadership role for all of DC, we're gonna keep hearing the same disappointing news.

Ugh, Jon Peters and Joel Silver should go **** eachother and leave our movies alone.

 

[The Major]

Uslan would be perfect to lead this type of streamlined adaption branch for DC.

 

[Sawyer]

Uslan would be perfect to lead this type of streamlined adaption branch for DC.

I concur.

 

[DrayvensCrow]

It seems to me that WB/DC Studios would still be able to keep everything streamlined even though each property is assigned/controlled by various producers. By naming someone and giving them the power to keep people like Silver and Peters in check, WB/DC just might be able to reach Marvel's level. I don't know exactly what title they'd have....President-In-Charge-Of-Production? Executive-Executive Producer? They biggest problem to me seems that Silver, Peters or anyone of them could hold both the property and WB/DC hostage as it is currently.

 

[The Major]

They biggest problem to me seems that Silver, Peters or anyone of them could hold both the property and WB/DC hostage as it is currently.

That could be dealt with depending on the contracts. Surely their contracts have a time limit? When that's up take it from them.

 

[TheVileOne]

I don't trust Uslan after Constantine and the Spirit. Sorry, I just don't.

It'd be a good idea to you know maybe start a division to go along with the whole home video thing, so it there's a whole team of people, people who've actually worked at DC as well who can monitor the projects like Marvel does.

But it would sort of be copying Marvel's model. But Marvel at least figured out a formula that appears to be working for now.

 

[The Major]

I don't trust Uslan after Constantine and the Spirit. Sorry, I just don't.

No-one's perfect. I'd still say he is experienced and qualified enough to have some major control over it.

How is Roven?

Paul Dini and Bruce Timm are other candidates.

I'd see this as a group effort. It will take more then one or two people to do it properly. Just as long as they have one clear leader in charge so they aren't going in ten different directions at once.

It'd be a good idea to you know maybe start a division to go along with the whole home video thing, so it there's a whole team of people, people who've actually worked at DC as well who can monitor the projects like Marvel does.

But it would sort of be copying Marvel's model. But Marvel at least figured out a formula that appears to be working for now.

Copying something that works is never bad. Though if they have different methods to get better results then Marvel's they should be able to do that, too.

 

[TheVileOne]

They have it in that all there properties are under one studio's roof rather than spread out at other things. That means if fans want to see interaction between properties, DC could easily beat Marvel at that game if they played their cards right.

The other thing is that they've had this distinct advantage for YEARS and never taken more advantage of it.

The Major, just about one of the few people I would trust in the position as like one of the head honchos is probably Paul Dini. Don't care if he's mainly an animation guy. Paul Dini or someone like Dini, Bruce Timm etc.

Just saying, make Paul Dini like the John Lasseter of DC Films/Studios.

 

[The Major]

Vile:

Yup.

 

[DrayvensCrow]

That could be dealt with depending on the contracts. Surely their contracts have a time limit? When that's up take it from them.

Unfortunately, I believe that Silver's contract is about 10 yrs.

In a perfect world, there would be one all-encompassing contract for producers where the amount would be the only thing negotiable.

 

[The Major]

Unfortunately, I believe that Silver's contract is about 10 yrs.

It is starting to improve.

How far into the ten years are we up to?

In a perfect world, there would be one all-encompassing contract for producers where the amount would be the only thing negotiable.

Hopefully we're getting closer to that happening. It's just not going to happen over night.

I do admit I am being very optimistic thinking that.

 

[TheVileOne]

Not that Paul Dini would ever do it mind you, he'd simply be my first choice to be the guy in charge.

Few have really gotten DC comic stories and brought them to a visual life outside of the comics the way Dini has. That gives him instant credibility as far as I'm concerned. He's a brilliant writer and is responsible for some of the best shows in the last two decades. He's written DC comics. He and Timm came very close to doing a live action version of Batman Beyond as well.

 

[DrayvensCrow]

It is starting to improve.

How far into the ten years are we up to?

About two years, if I'm not mistaken....

Hopefully we're getting closer to that happening. It's just not going to happen over night.

I do admit I am being very optimistic thinking that.

I'm being optimistic by thinking WB would even allow DC to be involved in that kind of descision making. Which they won't. Ever.