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[Blade X]

I'll probably be in the minority here, but one of my favourite CBMs in the last few years was Punisher War Zone. It was more faithful to the character than any X-Men or Spider-Man movie to date. It was unapologetic, ultra-violent action from the get-go. I loved it.

I agree. That movie was great and very underrated. However, it's another example of an R rated superhero movie that flopped.

 

[Blade X]

I don't think they'll go hard r or go over the top with the swearing. This is still a CBM movie after all. I think they want R so they aren't bound to the PG-13 guid-lines which let you get away with little considering the nature of this character.

I think that the reason this movie is getting an R rating is because there won't be any merchandise for this movie. People have forgotten that Marvel has refused to make merchandise based off of the FOX own Marvel property's because FOX would reap most of the profits from that merchandise. If Marvel was making merchandise for this movie, I'm pretty sure that it would be rated PG-13. I bet FOX wish they had scooped up Marvel before Disney did.

 

[-JKR-]

The Tom Jane Punisher was a far superior movie, and incredibly underrated. And it showed what you can do in an R-rated movie without turning it into an exaggerated gore-fest.

With that being said, Deadpool is going to be rated R because the guys making it thankfully have some common sense. And to whoever keeps saying that Deadpool's pretty much PG-13 material, he should read this great write-down (which is probably one of the best I've ever read about the character):

http://www.the-fanboy-perspective.com/who-is-deadpool.html

 

[Blade X]

Didn't expect anyone to take the Slater position. I think the video has the proper response to the Slater position.

Based on Kingsman, which while not a superhero movie in the strictest of interpretations, is still the type of tone I think Deadpool is going for. And it did pretty well at the box office. Records, no. But it did take in well over triple it's budget. And considering that the budget isn't high, it should be very easy for Deadpool to have success.

And Weasel looks great.

I totally agree with everything you said. Hell, the success of KINGSMEN (in addition to Marvel not making any merchandise for this movie) is the reason why this movie is getting an R rating. Of course, there is still the possibility that FOX might changer their minds and release a PG-13 cut for the theatrical release of this movie and save the R rated cut for a DVD/Blu Ray release. I think that a PG-13 version of this movie would be a bigger hit at the box office then an R rated version would. I think that a DP movie could become FOX IRON MAN movie.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

Wish he was more scarred. In those pics he looks a little scarred but quite aged

Er, why?

I think that the reason this movie is getting an R rating is because there won't be any merchandise for this movie. People have forgotten that Marvel has refused to make merchandise based off of the FOX own Marvel property's because FOX would reap most of the profits from that merchandise. If Marvel was making merchandise for this movie, I'm pretty srure that it would be rated PG-13. I bet FOX wish they had scooped up Marvel before Disney did.

That'd be a latter reason I think.

I reckon it's like this:

1) First and foremost the creative people want that rating and with the success of the leaked footage Fox are smart to keep them on board.

2) After that I imagine Reynolds fighting for it aided the decision.

3) The success of Kingsmen with that rating.

4) The low budget reduced risk of financial loss compared to a larger budget.

5) And finally since there won't be any merch and Marvel gets majority portion of profits if there was that removed the kid audience factor

 

[-JKR-]

It won't be released as PG-13 version, if they've just announced that they're going for an R rating.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

If it's a great movie with excellent marketing I can see it doing as well as if it were PG.

They're on track for the markettjng and here's hoping the quality is great

 

[StarLord]

I want to get into the Deadpool comics.

What are your top 5 must have?

I remember seeing a cover with all the heads of the marvel characters on the floor. I don't know if that was a parody or a real storyline in his comic.

Joe Kelly's Deadpool Classics is the way to go, but if you go back a couple of pages a few posters have given their suggestions too.

 

[Human Torch]

Eh,this is pretty disappointing for me. I'd rather they make it PG-13 and have an unrated DVD.

 

[The Endless]

Why would you be disappointed with it being R rated?

 

[Blade X]

And to whoever keeps saying that Deadpool's pretty much PG-13 material, he should read this great write-down (which is probably one of the best I've ever read about the character):

http://www.the-fanboy-perspective.com/who-is-deadpool.html

And you should carefully read a person's post before commenting on it. Like I have said several times, DP was ORIGINALLY created for and aimed at all ages. Just because a bunch of fans turned pro think that (and when they get the chance/opportunity, make) any heroic or anti hero characters who uses guns,knives,and swords to kill bad guys (in a non graphic or gory manner) are automatically not suitable for all ages or young kids, doesn't make it true.

 

[Kane52630]

Why would you be disappointed with it being R rated?

He probably can't get in?

 

[JaD]

That's what I hear. And to be fair I've only seen him in The Proposal, X-men Origins Wolverine, Green Lantern, Van Wilder, and Blade Trinity so I've inadvertently only seen his worst performances.

Yeah, those aren't anything great. In comedies, I think his comedic timing is brilliant. One of my favorite comedies of him is Just Friends which no one probably saw but it's hilarious. (Chris Klein is great in that too )

As a dramatic actor he was amazing in Safe House and Buried. I hope Deadpool will revitalize his career .

 

[The Endless]

And you should carefully read a person's post before commenting on it. Like I have said several times, DP was ORIGINALLY created for and aimed at all ages. Just because a bunch of fans turned pro think that (and when they get the chance/opportunity, make) any heroic or anti hero characters who uses guns,knives,and swords to kill bad guys (in a non graphic or gory manner) are automatically not suitable for all ages or young kids, doesn't make it true.

He doesn't just kill bad guys. He casually shoots people in the head if they prefer the Star Wars prequels to the original films. He keeps a blind old woman as a prisoner and locks her up in a torture room if she disobeys him. He stabs himself in the head because he has an itch.

Deadpool isn't suitable for young kids.

 

[Human Torch]

Why would you be disappointed with it being R rated?

I don't like graphic violence,nudity & vulgarity/swearing. That's pretty much what the R rating gives you. I admit, I don't have the largest Deadpool comic collection,but the stuff I have was funny/cool enough to get me interested in the character with it's PG-13 sensibilities.

It's also a fairly poor business decision to exclude kids from something like this that's basically a slightly more "hard core" Spider-Man type.

 

[Flint Marko]

He doesn't just kill bad guys. He casually shoots people in the head if they prefer the Star Wars prequels to the original films. He keeps a blind old woman as a prisoner and locks her up in a torture room if she disobeys him. He stabs himself in the head because he has an itch.

Deadpool isn't suitable for young kids.

That's exactly the Deadpool I want to see.

 

[Sithborg]

And you should carefully read a person's post before commenting on it. Like I have said several times, DP was ORIGINALLY created for and aimed at all ages. Just because a bunch of fans turned pro think that (and when they get the chance/opportunity, make) any heroic or anti hero characters who uses guns,knives,and swords to kill bad guys (in a non graphic or gory manner) are automatically not suitable for all ages or young kids, doesn't make it true.

You will pardon me if I don't see anything "all ages" about the direction Liefield was taking New Mutants/X-force. I mean, it was sort of the 90's thing to have violent anti-heroes. PG-13 does allow a fair amount of violence (still weird to me that GI Joe had more stabbings than Origins), but why limit yourself. The good Deadpool stories are inherently violent and adult. Why limit themselves?

The Slater position is just weird to me. Everything pointed to them wanting to make it R. Why hurt the creative vision?

 

[The Endless]

I don't like graphic violence,nudity & vulgarity/swearing. That's pretty much what the R rating gives you. I admit, I don't have the largest Deadpool comic collection,but the stuff I have was funny/cool enough to get me interested in the character with it's PG-13 sensibilities.

It's also a fairly poor business decision to exclude kids from something like this that's basically a slightly more "hard core" Spider-Man type.

I think they've weighed up the business side of things. The film only has a budget of like, 50-60 million.

Deadpool's origin story alone demands it to be Rated R. The guy got cancer, volunteered himself to the Weapon X program to find a cure. He got a cure, but it left him looking like a walking tumour. Then because of his advanced healing factor he was used in experiments and dissected and ripped apart over and over and over again. This left him completely fractured psychologically. You can't skip any of that stuff out, because that is what makes Deadpool what he is. We NEED to see all the horrific things that happened to him because it helps us understand and in a way, sympathize with him... even when he is killing people for money or just for fun.

See that's the thing, Deadpool isn't just some wacky guy who rivals Spider-Man with the one liners. He's a deeply disturbed guy who makes fun of the world because otherwise he'd be crying his eyes out.

 

[Hush]

I don't like graphic violence,nudity & vulgarity/swearing. That's pretty much what the R rating gives you. I admit, I don't have the largest Deadpool comic collection,but the stuff I have was funny/cool enough to get me interested in the character with it's PG-13 sensibilities.

It's also a fairly poor business decision to exclude kids from something like this that's basically a slightly more "hard core" Spider-Man type.

He isn't a slightly more hardcore Spider-man type though, he is Wolverine who has no filter and serious mental issues to go along with psychopathic tendencies.

 

[Blade X]

That'd be a latter reason I think.

I reckon it's like this:

1) First and foremost the creative people want that rating and with the success of the leaked footage Fox are smart to keep them on board.

The FOX execs don't give a damn about what the creative people behind this film wants. The test footage was PG-13, not R.

2) After that I imagine Reynolds fighting for it aided the decision.

Considering the fact that most of the last several movies that he starred or co-starred in flopped, I don't think that Reynolds is any position (much less, has any clout) to influence the decision of the execs to give this movie an R rating.

3) The success of Kingsmen with that rating.

I agree.

4) The low budget reduced risk of financial loss compared to a larger budget.

I agree.

5) And finally since there won't be any merch and Marvel gets majority portion of profits if there was that removed the kid audience factor

FOX would get most of the profits from the merch, not Marvel. This is why Marvel won't make merch for the movie (or the X-Men and FF movies).

 

[Blade X]

It won't be released as PG-13 version, if they've just announced that they're going for an R rating.

They could always change their minds later. Especially if a test audience doesn't act favorably towards the R rated cut of the film or if they find out that a lot kids would want to see this movie. In an ideal world, they would release 2 theatrical cuts of the movie (an R rated version and a PG-13 version) just like studios simultaneously release a 3D and non 3D versions of theatrical movies.

If it's a great movie with excellent marketing I can see it doing as well as if it were PG.

They're on track for the markettjng and here's hoping the quality is great

I agree. IMO, they should try to do a GEICO commercial with Deadpool.

 

[Blade X]

He doesn't just kill bad guys. He casually shoots people in the head if they prefer the Star Wars prequels to the original films. He keeps a blind old woman as a prisoner and locks her up in a torture room if she disobeys him. He stabs himself in the head because he has an itch.

Deadpool isn't suitable for young kids.

1. Were those people who liked the SW prequels innocent bystanders or bad guys?

2. He let Blind Al go at the end of Kelly's run. And, IIRC, there was a reason why he kept Blind Al prisoner and Al actually did care about him.

3. He stabs himself in the head if he has an itch because he has an amped up healing factor and can easily survive it.

 

[The Endless]

1. Were those people who liked the SW prequels innocent bystanders or bad guys?

It was a guy who minutes earlier saved his life.

2. He let Blind Al go at the end of Kelly's run. And, IIRC, there was a reason why he kept Blind Al prisoner and Al actually did care about him.

Yes, but the fact is he still keeps a blind old woman prisoner and harasses and tortures her.

3. He stabs himself in the head if he has an itch because he has an amped up healing factor and can easily survive it.

Yes, but he still casually stabs himself in the head... then carries on talking. You can't have stuff like that in PG-13 films.

 

[def28]

FYI, DP became popular during the 90's, not the mid 00's. His popularity started to rise up because of the Kelly run.

No. The Kelly run didn't get well known till later.
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/10/03/joe-kelly-and-his-relationship-with-deadpool/

I remember buying Deadpool as it came out and at the time it was not a big seller, but now your run is considered to be so essential and important to the character. How do you feel about it?

Well it is so well regarded nowadays but no-one, well except maybe you and a few fans were reading it back then! I was told we were canceled almost every third issue and it got to be so ridiculous because I couldn’t plan anything. Eventually I left with issue #33 because I was just tired of being told we would be gone soon. I had more stories but I feel I said everything I wanted to and it was a good place to leave.

 

[Black Narcissus]

Joe Kelly's Deadpool Classics is the way to go, but if you go back a couple of pages a few posters have given their suggestions too.

I just ordered the first issue.

Thanks.