Deadpool & Wolverine Deadpool & Wolverine at the BoX office

[Ctfxcwatcher]

It does make you wonder how big the biggest multiversal cameofest ever, Secret wars, could be. Many geeks are getting bored of all this but the GA seem as excited as ever for crazy crossover stuff.

After doing some thinking, I really think Secret Wars will outdo Endgame's Opening weekend. 357 is still such an astonishing number but Marvel potentially having their legacy characters all meet up for one true last ride before the eventual MCU reboot, is an event. It would be about almost a decade since Endgame. Inflation alone will help. But having the leads be possibly Jackman, Tobey, RDJ,...maybe Evans returning...Deadpool...idk, sounds like the potential true first 3 billion dollar film to me.

 

[Spider-Fan]

It does make you wonder how big the biggest multiversal cameofest ever, Secret wars, could be. Many geeks are getting bored of all this but the GA seem as excited as ever for crazy crossover stuff.

I am sure Secret Wars will do well. Clearly the cameo fests work. My faith in it me enjoying it is low, though

 

[Iceman]

After doing some thinking, I really think Secret Wars will outdo Endgame's Opening weekend. 357 is still such an astonishing number but Marvel potentially having their legacy characters all meet up for one true last ride before the eventual MCU reboot, is an event. It would be about almost a decade since Endgame. Inflation alone will help. But having the leads be possibly Jackman, Tobey, RDJ,...maybe Evans returning...Deadpool...idk, sounds like the potential true first 3 billion dollar film to me.

If they have a run of great films building up to these Avengers films with the narrative that the quality is back and RDJ somehow convinces geeks that he’s taking this Doom role as seriously as his serious roles I think we will at least see a $300m weekend if Deadpool itself can do more then $200m with an R rating. If Doomsday manages mega numbers then SW could go stratospheric.

The legs of D&W will also tell a story of how well this has gone down with the GA/WoM and how quickly or not they tire of it. Also I think for Secret Wars they’ll have so many ridiculous cameos that they’ll put a few in the trailers and let some leak to really pump the hype while still having tons in reserve. If there was any doubt about throwing the entire kitchen sink in when it comes to Secret Wars cameos, D&W’s numbers has removed it.

 

[SomeOldGuy]

$21.5m Monday per deadline ($23m per EmpireCity BO) either way a great number.

 

[JP]

$23 million would be crazy!

 

[psylockolussus]

Disney could greenlit a Deadpool & Wolverine 2 now, if they want to, though we don't know what Marvel Studios' grand plans for the next 4 years are and their sequels take a little longer than most active franchises. The other major studios would greenlit a sequel as quickly as possible with those numbers.

As for Doomsday/Secret Wars- having Andrew/Tobey/Ryan/Hugh and mixing them up with the Avengers are going to be huge and monumental. Its probably bigger than Endgame's cast even if ScarJo and Chris Evans are absent. Though I'm not sure yet if one of those 2 films could surpass Endgame's global box office run. That is such a high bar to surpass.

I'm enjoying the Mcu's box office success at the moment because next year would be a big test, if D/W's success is going to benefit Brave New World/Thunderbolts*/First Steps. Crossing the $400/$500 million mark worldwide would be a challenge for those three. Fantastic 4 probably needs to show off RDJ in marketing to attract a lot more people.

 

[SomeOldGuy]

$23 million would be crazy!

You know what’s even crazier? Turns out it’s 24.

 

[Pennywise]

 

[SomeOldGuy]

Half a billion coming today!

 

[lenz]

I'm enjoying the Mcu's box office success at the moment because next year would be a big test, if D/W's success is going to benefit Brave New World/Thunderbolts*/First Steps. Crossing the $400/$500 million mark worldwide would be a challenge for those three. Fantastic 4 probably needs to show off RDJ in marketing to attract a lot more people.

I think Brave New World may make decent money, but likely a big loss due to budget. I don't have high hopes for that even as a film.

Thunderbolts is really exciting for me because of the approach they are taking. Much more grounded in feel, more practical stunts, I expect it to be in the vein of Winter Soldier. The mistake being made is I think it should have been an R-rating. I completely undestand why it wasn't, but if we are looking at something in the 600m -700 m range, I think an R rating helps a film in that area with the vibe its going for. It changes the age demo, sure, but that demo is likely to repeat view a film like this (if good) at a higher rate to make up for the loss of a younger demo. It's an extremely undeserved audience appetite in the genre. So basically you get similar box office returns, but the film is even more distinctive.

A great Fantastic Four film, conservatively, easily makes 375m plus in its first weekend. That's extremely conservative from my perspective. Nothing more I can say.

 

[Iceman]

Half a billion coming today!

Good early signs for a decent second weekend hold (relative to how big it opened).

 

[Iceman]

I think Brave New World may make decent money, but likely a big loss due to budget. I don't have high hopes for that even as a film.

Thunderbolts is really exciting for me because of the approach they are taking. Much more grounded in feel, more practical stunts, I expect it to be in the vein of Winter Soldier. The mistake being made is I think it should have been an R-rating. I completely undestand why it wasn't, but if we are looking at something in the 600m -700 m range, I think an R rating helps a film in that area with the vibe its going for. It changes the age demo, sure, but that demo is likely to repeat view a film like this (if good) at a higher rate to make up for the loss of a younger demo. It's an extremely undeserved audience appetite in the genre. So basically you get similar box office returns, but the film is even more distinctive.

A great Fantastic Four film, conservatively, easily makes 375m plus in its first weekend. That's extremely conservative from my perspective. Nothing more I can say.

Great to hear on Thunderbolts, I’d be very happy with those numbers.

F4 is one of the MCU films I most want to do well. Just hope we get tons of good news about the film and the hero characters to make up for many fans’ disappointment over Doom. The GA will likely take care of themselves.

 

[Scarlet Spider]

Cap 4 will most definitely lose money. Unsure about Thunderbolts. F4 is a second reboot of a failed franchise. Even if it's good, it has alot going against it.

 

[SomeOldGuy]

Good early signs for a decent second weekend hold (relative to how big it opened).

I’d be happy with anything above 80 next weekend, but yeah early signs suggest more. Over at BOT Charlie jatinder said it looks so far like Tuesday will top Monday. Wednesday will be the tell.

 

[Iceman]

I’d be happy with anything above 80 next weekend, but yeah early signs suggest more. Over at BOT Charlie jatinder said it looks so far like Tuesday will top Monday. Wednesday will be the tell.

Whatever the drop it will already have made a number by next weekend that I would have been more than happy with for the entire run ahead of time lol.

 

[lenz]

Cap 4 will most definitely lose money. Unsure about Thunderbolts. F4 is a second reboot of a failed franchise. Even if it's good, it has alot going against it.

I get the Trank fiasco, but a decade will have passed when the new film opens. I don't think enough people even saw it for it to have any meaningful long term damage.

 

[PunyGod]

The mistake being made is I think it should have been an R-rating. I completely undestand why it wasn't, but if we are looking at something in the 600m -700 m range, I think an R rating helps a film in that area with the vibe its going for. It changes the age demo, sure, but that demo is likely to repeat view a film like this (if good) at a higher rate to make up for the loss of a younger demo.

You know I think the superhero movie market is starting to age now just like the comic book market. I've tried to get kids to watch any superhero movie and they just don't care. So maybe Marvel needs to start changing their target audience.

 

[lenz]

I’d be happy with anything above 80 next weekend, but yeah early signs suggest more. Over at BOT Charlie jatinder said it looks so far like Tuesday will top Monday. Wednesday will be the tell.

Looks like 90 m + could be possible with these numbers.

 

[lenz]

You know I think the superhero movie market is starting to age now just like the comic book market. I've tried to get kids to watch any superhero movie and they just don't care. So maybe Marvel needs to start changing their target audience.

I agree. One of the great benefits of Deadpool in the fold is it forced their hand to continue what was already established. Now they are directly bearing the fruit of that.

Even if they didn't have DP, they should have learned from Joker. R-rated, prestige appeal, a whole different sector of the audience to draw from. Insane legs after a 97 million opening. Not a crazy budget. Filmmaker friendly. Crazy DVD and blu ray numbers, which sold more than other cbm's that made more theatrically.

It's a balance, you want to keep a younger audience still, but also understand that as your audience matures, you need to diversify your offerings.

 

[Iceman]

I get the Trank fiasco, but a decade will have passed when the new film opens. I don't think enough people even saw it for it to have any meaningful long term damage.

Agreed. An advantage of going completely under the radar.

 

[BlackFox]

Half a billion coming today!

Crazy and not even been out for a week yet, my only fear is this success will go to Deadpool's head and he will be banging on about it the next time we see him.

 

[Pennywise]

 

[SomeOldGuy]

I get the Trank fiasco, but a decade will have passed when the new film opens. I don't think enough people even saw it for it to have any meaningful long term damage.

I’ll just say this: the one thing I absolutely did not expect from Deadpool & Wolverine was to come out absolutely pumped for reboots of Fantastic Four and X-Men. I have not watched the old Fox films in forever, but seeing all those old characters again reminded me there was some really cool stuff there and yes, it’s way past time we got Storm and Cyclops and Reed and the ever lovin’ Thing back on the big screen. Frankly, this is the first time in the post-Endgame era that I’m actually excited about what comes next in the MCU. Again, did not expect that, and hopefully I’m not the only one.

 

[BlackFox]

So its pretty much guaranteed to cross $1B then it seems, staggering for an R rated movie.

Just goes to show the comic book movie is far FAR from dead, if you make the team ups and characters people want with the right talent behind it they will come out in their droves still. NOW GIVE US THE BLOODY X-MEN!!

 

[Scarlet Spider]

I get the Trank fiasco, but a decade will have passed when the new film opens. I don't think enough people even saw it for it to have any meaningful long term damage.

It's not just the Trank film. EVERY F4 fiom has been bad. It's a franchise with a stigma. The new film takes place outside of the MCU and has no bankable stars. It has alot going against.