Decoding THE MATRIX TRILOGY anyone? Discuss the films here.

[Spider-Man Luvr28]

*Sighs.*:facepalm

 

[Spider-Fan]

In before the close/move!!!

 

[Darthphere]

Double face palm!

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[Drizzle]

Triple face palm!
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[Darthphere]

What?! Quadruple face palm!

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[Spider-Fan]

Septuple face palm!!!

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[Drizzle]

 

[Darthphere]

Septuple face palm!!!

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You son of a *****, you can't do that knowing the image limit.

 

[Darthphere]

It's glorious.

 

[Darthphere]

All context is now lost.

 

[Spider-Fan]

You son of a *****, you can't do that knowing the image limit.

Just because you didn't think of it

 

[DyeLorean]

I'm rewatching the trilogy after a long time. I don't know why the sequels get so much hate, I don't think they are THAT bad. Sure, they get a little more philosophical, and somethings don't make a lot of sense, but I'm still glad they tried to achieve something that big.
I still believe the Neo fight with the Merovingian dudes and the highway chase right after it from Reloaded is one of the best action sequences ever.
There's one thing I don't completely understand and is the Arquitect explanation about 'other' Neos that came before him, and all that talk about the Matrix versions. Maybe I'm not reading too much into it, or is just doesn't make any sense and that's what bothers people.
Gonna watch Revolutions now.

 

[Alien Anal]

My issue with the sequels is more to do with the creative path they went with them. Zion felt too advanced and i didn't like that it seemed like anyone could wake up from the Matrix.

The sequels seemed to have lost that film noir style that made the first one so different and interesting. The contrast of this old school detective type movie mixed seamlessly with amazing powers made it that much more fun.

The costumes became too self aware and too much attention was focused on the special effects.

 

[DyeLorean]

Yes, I agree.
Just finished Revolutions, and I think the movies feel coherent, but there's something missing from that first movie, they got into too much detail of how the Matrix works (too many characters/programs), and that took away some of that 'intimacy' that you felt watching the first one, where you had the crew from their ship, and nothing else. It was straightforward, the movie flowed naturally.
The sequels introduced too many things into the equation, some of them worked, and some of them didn't.
But I still feel like is a very decent trilogy.

 

[Alien Anal]

One thing i have been wondering is why did they need to eat the Oats looking stuff in the ship and not something tastier?

Zion seemed pretty advanced to not be able to manufacture something a little more appealing

 

[DyeLorean]

The explanation was that it had all the vitamins (and stuff) the body needed for long periods of time without proper food -or at least that's what I remember-.
Also, during the making of the first movie, maybe they didn't even imagined how Zion would look like. As far as I know, they made Matrix as a stand alone film (pretty much like Back To The Future).

 

[Lord]

One of the things i didn't like was that Reloaded and Revolutions seemed like a single film, it didn't feel like a trilogy because each part didn't have the same importance as the others, It's probably because they were shot back-to-back, sure the Back to the Future sequels did the same thing but the fact that the 1st film also had a cliffhanger made the end of the trilogy seem complete.

It's strange that WB didn't make another Matrix film considering the money it made and the money movies like Transformers and Inception are making, i think that they should have used the Merovingian story arc in Reloaded and only gone with Smith's return in Revolutions

 

[Rocketman]

I'm gonna get hate for this, but it's just my opinion:
This is the best trilogy EVER.

- So ridiculously ambitious.
- So unbelievably innovative on a technical level.
- Amazing visuals, amazing storytelling.
- Has a downright bold audacity that has YET to be matched. The balls of these movies is something to be in awe of.

It's the Original Star Wars Trilogy of our time. Star Wars matches the checklist above in every way, except for one thing:

- Tying all of this together in a complicated philosophical meditation, that combines eastern and western philosophies, and makes you THINK. It ties all of this together flawlessly. No other trilogy/series has ever done that.

[BLACKOUT]Star Wars doesn't make you think. I love Star Wars. But I'm being honest. Sorry, guys! [/BLACKOUT]

 

[Asteroid-Man]

You honestly believe Star Wars doens't make you think? It challenges the notion that the world is completely Black and White, it tells us not to be afraid to rebel. AND it IS a combination of eastern and western philosophies; it draws elements of feudal Japan and Europe.

On a side note, I re-watched the Matrix the other day and I must say I forgot who truly amazing it was ...and then I rewatched 2 and 3 and I remembered why I forgot; the second two wiped the awe from the first one right from my mind. 2 and 3 were almost like a parody of the first one.

 

[Lord]

I'm gonna get hate for this, but it's just my opinion:
This is the best trilogy EVER.

- So ridiculously ambitious.
- So unbelievably innovative on a technical level.
- Amazing visuals, amazing storytelling.
- Has a downright bold audacity that has YET to be matched. The balls of these movies is something to be in awe of.

It's the Original Star Wars Trilogy of our time. Star Wars matches the checklist above in every way, except for one thing:

- Tying all of this together in a complicated philosophical meditation, that combines eastern and western philosophies, and makes you THINK. It ties all of this together flawlessly. No other trilogy/series has ever done that.

[BLACKOUT]Star Wars doesn't make you think. I love Star Wars. But I'm being honest. Sorry, guys! [/BLACKOUT]

Not quite, this generation's Star Wars wasn't a trilogy, as Star Wars was that generation's Lord of the Rings, this generation's star wars was Harry Potter

 

[DarkSovereignty]

yeah, I agree on Harry potter being this generation's star wars. I mean, yeah, for a few years you couldn't watch a comedy without somebody spoofing the bullet time scene, but I haven't seen one of those in about 5 years. harry potter literally speaks to a generation. The matrix, while the first one was cool, is infamous for having one good movie followed two increasingly disappointing sequels.

 

[Rocketman]

You honestly believe Star Wars doens't make you think? It challenges the notion that the world is completely Black and White, it tells us not to be afraid to rebel. AND it IS a combination of eastern and western philosophies; it draws elements of feudal Japan and Europe.

George Lucas wasn't smart enough to come up with that.
That's a coincidence that people read into.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

I love the Matrix films, but Star Wars is the best sci-fi trilogy, IMO.

 

[Art_of_Crime]

One of the things that really brought me out of the movies was my disgust with the human characters.
Morpheus was a religious nut job, blinded by his faith. That kind of personality just drives me nuts. There is no talking to some people like that.
The rest of the humans just seemed so weak and unmotivated. "lets just eek out our existence, rather than seek peace, or try to better our situation here on the physical plain.
Also I didn't find many, if any of the characters to be developed beyond the surface.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

George Lucas wasn't smart enough to come up with that.
That's a coincidence that people read into.

No it isn't. He draws blatant homages to Seven Samurai as well as multiple other Kurosawa films, and before the release of the film he often used the words "Samurai" and "Fear-East Asia" to describe the "mystical, sword battling" element of the film. You can go find countless interviews PRIOR to the release of the film where he makes mention of this. Hell, Darth Vader is designed after the battle armour of a Samurai and Obi-Wan was modeled after the more traditional attire of the Samurai.
People "read into it" because it's true; it's pretty much common knowledge now.

EDIT:

George Lucas has acknowledged his debt to Akira Kurosawa, and several homages and allusions can be found throughout the Star Wars series. In Star Wars (1977), the robot C3PO echoes the comments of the Japanese peasants when he says, "It seems we are made to suffer. It's our lot in life." Luke Skywalker also bears similarities to both Kikuchiyo (the farmer's son aspiring to warrior status) and Katsushiro (the young man yearning to be a disciple to a master). In The Phantom Menace (1999), the shot of Federation tanks coming over the hill is a direct tribute to the horizon shot of the marauding bandits. Lucas has said Yoda rubbing his head while thinking was a conscious homage to Kambei's head-rubbing gesture. Lucas has also said in interviews that while he was in Japan he became familiar with the cinematic genre jidai-geki ("period film," a category to which Seven Samurai belongs), so it is widely assumed this was an inspiration for his invented word "Jedi" (rebel warrior). Lucas has also employed the rarely seen wipe effect as a scene transition, which Kurosawa uses frequently in The Seven Samurai.

Source: http://www.tcm.com/this-month/article/191476%7C0/Pop-Culture-101-Seven-Samurai.html

"Seven Samurai made an extraordinary impact on me," says Lucas, recalling the first time he saw the epic during his tenure at USC's film school. "I had never seen anything that powerful or cinematographic. The emotions were so strong that it didn't matter that I did not understand the culture or the traditions. From that moment on, Kurosawa's films have served as one of my strongest sources of creative inspiration."

Diehard Stars Wars fans already know that Kurosawa – particularly his film The Hidden Fortress – was a huge influence on Lucas's ongoing space operatic saga, so this screening makes a lot of sense. It also serves as a tribute to the legendary director, whom Lucas served under as an executive producer on Kagemusha, as well as providing Industrial Light & Magic's services for the visual effects in Akira Kurosawa's Dreams.

Source: http://movies.ign.com/articles/508/508820p1.html