Did O.J. Do It?

[Santa-Claus]

Um, the prosecution were kind of stupid.

And it's obvious. Everything from the crime scene to the way O.J. goes about it says otherwise. Innocent people don't write books about how they'd hypothetically commit the crime they were accused of committing.

He was legally innocent, not personally or morally.

Very well put young sir

 

[VICTORVONDOOMX]

No not really. They were all very high profile lawyers who had very successful careers.

Again, I'm sure the prosecution would love to hear that...but I'm pretty sure after what they went through they'd tell you otherwise.

Actually, according to the prosecutors themselves, they were too invested in sleepng with each other and interested in their attire to overly concern themselves with what they thought (due to blood evidence) was a slam-dunk case. They brought their B game and they've said it themselves.

 

[The Chairman]

Very well put young sir

Thank you.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Um, okay. Just because a group of 12 people found him innocent (no thanks in part to the prosecution bungling the case), doesn't mean he's innocent. Innocent until proven guilty doesn't mean he's innocent.

Yes, it does. That's what it means. That's why we can't retry you for the same crime.

It just means he cannot be legally persecuted by federal lawmakers until the courts find him guilty.

First off, it's prosecuted. Second, you can be prosecuted if you are innocent. If you are innocent, it means you are not responsible for the act of which you are accused. It means you don't have to serve time, or recompensate the accusers. Ya'know, the things a guilty person might have to do.

He's innocent, for better or worse that's what it is. You want a different system, go live somewhere else. Every one of your posts is just "but, but, but, but....". Sorry, you are mistaken.

 

[The Chairman]

Yes, it does. That's what it means. That's why we can't retry you for the same crime.

Maybe in legal terms, but in personal and moral terms, no. Innocent people go to jail often, and guilty people are often let off. Just because he wasn't proven guilty doesn't mean he's innocent.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Maybe in legal terms, but in personal and moral terms, no. Innocent people go to jail often, and guilty people are often let off. Just because he wasn't proven guilty doesn't mean he's innocent.

A system that sent you to jail over your personal or moral guilt would be a very broken one.

 

[Silicon Surfer]

It is a physical impossibility for the crime to have been committed the way the police say it was. By that scenario O.J. would have had to have committed two bloody murders in a quiet neighborhood in near perfect silence, made a 20 minute drive home, sneak into his house, get cleaned up and changed, and gotten rid of the clothes and weapon so thoroughly that the police never found them. He would have had to do this all in a 1/2 hour.

 

[The Chairman]

A system that sent you to jail over your personal or moral guilt would be a very broken one.

I don't mean guilt as in O.J. actually felt bad about what he did. I mean guilty as in simply responsible for his action. How he he feels about what he did, if he did it, and if he actually did it, is two different things.

 

[Matt]

Do I believe O.J. murdered Nicole and Ron? No, I really don't. But let me clarify what I mean by not doing it. I don't believe he went out of his way to kill them, in my opinion, I believe that he was caught up in some sort of money deal that involved shady individuals and these said individuals kill for their dollar obviously.

I believe whoever he was involved with killed Nicole and Ron as a message to him. Now whether or not this is true or implied this is just all speculation on my part.

But no, I don't believe he killed them, although I do believe he knows who did it and is afraid to say who really did it.

Just out of curiousity, why does a civil suit prove he did it? Just because he was found liable doesn't really prove he actually murdered two people. Not trying to start a flame war but I'm trying to understand the whole "civil suit" argument.

Out of curiousity, how have you come to this conclussion? Is there evidence to back it up. I ask because its the first time I've heard this theory and I am curious.

 

[The Chairman]

Out of curiousity, how have you come to this conclussion? Is there evidence to back it up. I ask because its the first time I've heard this theory and I am curious.

Was anyone else ever thought to be a culprit? I never heard anyone else brought up as a potential suspect.

 

[Mister J]

Sounds like an offshoot of what OJ said about Faye Resnick.

 

[Silicon Surfer]

Was anyone else ever thought to be a culprit? I never heard anyone else brought up as a potential suspect.

By their own admission they never even looked at any other possibilities. They totally ignored everything but O.J.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

i'm curious as to why you think this, last sunrise. care to elaborate?

Well, I just don't see OJ going through with such a gruesome crime and being able to sleep at night. Of course humans in general have done horrible things and are able to sleep at night.

From a logical perspective I can't see OJ being able to contain both Ron Goldman and Nicole. If I remember correctly they said Nicole was in pretty good shape and was very athletic for her age, so with that said, adrenaline would pretty much come into play and both would be able to take OJ(if he did it) temporarily and escape.

It's not exactly far fetched for someone to kill them and make it look like OJ did it by planting evidence such as gloves, blood, shoes, and so forth.

 

[VICTORVONDOOMX]

A quick slash to Nicole's neck puts her right down, giving him ample time to stand over and brutalize that poor young man. Such a thing, believe me, is easily accomplished.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Out of curiousity, how have you come to this conclussion? Is there evidence to back it up. I ask because its the first time I've heard this theory and I am curious.

I'm not saying that I believe it actually happened, I just believe that it's a possibility for someone else to have done it and make it look like OJ actually did it. Do I believe he literally killed them? No. But I do believe he knows who did it and is afraid to be truthful about the crimes.

I could very well be wrong Matt. He may've done it for all I know, but I haven't seen any real physical hard proof that he did do it too.

 

[Silicon Surfer]

According to the police she was killed first, then Goldman. Goldman was younger, fitter and quicker so after arriving on the scene and seeing Nicole messily dead why did he hang around. O.J. could never have caught him. And why did nobody hear a cry for help. O.J. alone could not have stopped them from calling out and the neighborhood was quiet so people would have heard if they did.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

According to the police she was killed first, then Goldman. Goldman was younger, fitter and quicker so after arriving on the scene and seeing Nicole messily dead why did he hang around. O.J. could never have caught him. And why did nobody hear a cry for help. O.J. alone could not have stopped them from calling out and the neighborhood was quiet so people would have heard if they did.

Exactly my point. Unless OJ or whoever managed to be so quiet and sneak up on Ron in the process? Like you said, both of them were fit and could've given the person a real handful.

But no one will ever know the real answers. We're just spectators sitting in front of the computer giving our opinions and theories, we don't know for sure and it's all just speculation at this point.

 

[Silicon Surfer]

Goldman was not incapacitated or too terrified to fight back or respond because his skinned knuckles prove that he did fight back. So why did he not call out for help?

 

[VICTORVONDOOMX]

If the first stab was to the upper chest, this tends to knock the wind out of you and scare you simultaneously... your voice becomes weak and when you try to cry out... it's like those dreams where you can only manage a whisper.
Unfortunatly, I've seen that play out.

 

[Silicon Surfer]

Since he skinned the knuckles of both hands we know that he didn't receive an incapacitating strike right off. Anything such as you suggest that impairs breathing to that extent would also impair the ability to fight back which we know he did. Someone had to be holding his mouth while he was being attacked from the front. There had to be at least two people and probably more.

 

[neotheone]

Okay, OJ wrote a book on how he would do it if he did it... still the rule applies if you're a retired sports star no matter where you are, you can kill people.

 

[\S/JcDc\S/]

This threads asks "Did OJ do it?"

It does not ask "Did OJ get found not guilty?"

Yes Oj did it. Damn murderer. With many black people happy to see him get off even if he did do it. Society is at odds.