'Batman v Superman' Fallout: Warner Bros. Shakes Up Executive Roles

[BMCAABY]

Guess why they're fanboy choices? Because they're really really good. They redefined a handful of DC characters for the better. They know how to do cross-series storytelling and they understand the characters.


I'd rather not take the risk with Johns. His track record is 50/50. Dini and Timm are proven.

Geoff Johns track record is non-existant. That would be like critiquing the Kevin Fiege choice based on those crappy movies he executive produced and produced. Johns knows what is best and has proven so when he has a bigger involvement. This is proven by the animated movies and the cw shows where he had significant control ovwr.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

Geoff Johns track record is non-existant. That would be like critiquing the Kevin Fiege choice based on those crappy movies he executive produced and produced. Johns knows what is best and has proven so when he has a bigger involvement. This is proven by the animated movies and the cw shows where he had significant control ovwr.

It's not "non-existent" - you literally just mentioned the animated movies and CW shows he did - which were all good, but not nearly as good as the animated movies/shows/games that Dini and Timm produced.

 

[Jonwo]

It's good that WB has decided to create a DC Films division which should have happened years ago when they created DC Entertainment. I assume this won't affect television and animation since they're doing really well.

 

[Marvel Knight]

Those reports were false. I read an interview with GJ where he said his primary contribution was getting the hodgepodge villain's name changed from Legion to Parallax. You can clearly tell that the middle of the film is filled with Hollywood gimmicks and clichés, and that's certainly not how Johns writes.

There was also a lot of awkward fanboyism in the script, that made it read like a comic book.

That's definitely Johns.

He'll never admit the truth about his involvement in it. It wasn't supposed to be something that was revealed.

That film obviously had major problems behind the scenes. Par for the course with WB/DC it seems.

 

[Mandon Knight]

I commend their effort, even though I know this is all motivated by their desire to make money, and less about doing the material justice.

That being said, Johns was reported to have had a strong creative influence on the Green Lantern script for 2011's film. That didn't work out well.

He should stick to the comic books, not screenwriting.

Studios very rarely care about 'source' or material to the bigger picture, it's the $$$ they care about it above and beyond. This move proves that.

As for Johns, he wouldn't be my choice to control things as such.

 

[samsnee]

Interview with Johns following the announcement. He wants a brighter more optimistic DCEU.

http://www.vulture.com/2016/05/geoff-johns-dc-films.html

 

[Orba]

He certainly seems to be saying the right things, now the question will be if that reaches the screens.

 

[Lencho01]

I guess "hope and optimism" is the new "gritty and realism". They're still singing that "film maker" driven tune, though.

 

[jmc]

I'm guessing that approach will eventually be phased out. Making individuals films director driven whilst still being cohesive in a wider universe is only ever going to get you mixed results.

 

[Lencho01]

I'm guessing that approach will eventually be phased out. Making individuals films director driven whilst still being cohesive in a wider universe is only ever going to get you mixed results.

I think it's just another buzzword. Like Marvel is pretty much the same, you just need to do something that doesn't go against what they've done or are planning to do. If someone had gone to them with a less joyless Superman/Batman film years ago, I doubt they would've made it.

 

[FunkMiller]

Interview with Johns following the announcement. He wants a brighter more optimistic DCEU.

http://www.vulture.com/2016/05/geoff-johns-dc-films.html

There's a thinly veiled **** you to Zack Snyder and his sensibilities in that interview that I whole-heartedly approve of.

 

[Abudefduf]

http://www.vulture.com/2016/05/geoff-johns-dc-films.html

Well, congratulations Johns, you've shown us that you have the best words. Now, live up to them and go fix Justice League.

 

[StormC]

Bruce timm and dini are such a fanboy choice. They are in charge of animation lead projects and I think thats what they prefer.
Geoff Johns has had 0 control over the storytelling or the personalities of the characters.
The man is a phenomenal writer, he knows storytelling and how the characters should be.

And Timm and Dini don't qualify for this? Those guys gave us the definitive Batman of our time.

 

[Jonwo]

I think there is room for different styles of films in a shared universe, Shazam will more light hearted than say Batman for example because of the nature of the character.

 

[writer0327]

I think there is room for different styles of films in a shared universe, Shazam will more light hearted than say Batman for example because of the nature of the character.

Precisely, as a shared universe should be. Every film don't have to match the tone of the film that came before it. We should see all ranges in the genre. There's room for it all.

 

[Wheels]

The biggest problem with this announcement isn't Johns, it's Jon Berg. The film executive you choose is a guy whose's only credits are Meet Dave, Elf, and Edge of Tommorw? Really? I mean if you had a more experienced film guy along with Johns then I'd feel more confident.

 

[CaptainWagner]

I guess "hope and optimism" is the new "gritty and realism". They're still singing that "film maker" driven tune, though.

And I should certainly hope it stays that way. Why would you think they're steering away from the Film-maker driven path? They literally just greenlit a film simply because Margot Robbie wanted to do it.

I think there is room for different styles of films in a shared universe, Shazam will more light hearted than say Batman for example because of the nature of the character.

EXACTLY!

 

[mclay18]

The biggest problem with this announcement isn't Johns, it's Jon Berg. The film executive you choose is a guy whose's only credits are Meet Dave, Elf, and Edge of Tommorw? Really? I mean if you had a more experienced film guy along with Johns then I'd feel more confident.

Jon Berg had been a production executive up until now. The term has different meanings, being that their roles vary with each company/project, but it wouldn't surprise me if Berg was there to keep productions running smoothly and on budget.

So... he might be DC Films' answer to Marvel's Ike Perlmutter. Let's hope he's open to compromise more than Perlmutter was at Marvel Studios.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

But I thought everything was fine?

I don't like Johns, don't have any idea who the other guy is.

 

[Raiden]

Am I the only one who thinks it's a bit of a contradiction for WB to give Berg and Johns more control and at the same time said they're still "filmmaker driven"? We know Snyder wants "dark and gritty", and Johns wants "hope and optimism" in DCEU. If they force Snyder to change the tone of his movie, then it will go against their "filmmaker driven" philosophy, won't it?

 

[Lencho01]

And I should certainly hope it stays that way. Why would you think they're steering away from the Film-maker driven path? They literally just greenlit a film simply because Margot Robbie wanted to do it.

They don't seem any more film maker driven than any other studio. You have an idea and they don't like it, you're out. You have one that they like, you're fine.

 

[jmc]

Don't know how I missed this but I just read Suicide Squad was having reshoots because it wasn't very good. It must be full on panic stations over at WB right now with this whole thing.

 

[batfreakforever]

It doesn't make a shred of difference to me. We won't know what they tweeked. Fans spend too much time on these what if's and if not's. I don't think they'll change their main plan/plots much. WB loves Snyder and they would of booted him off by now.
I got mos and bvs and now justice league part 1 and we will still get part 2 with Snyder because this is his story / trilogy. Part 1 and two are 1 movie essentially. Yeah they are looking over his shoulder but it'll still be his vision. Count me in.

 

[Wheels]

But I thought everything was fine?

I don't like Johns, don't have any idea who the other guy is.

I like Johns as a comic writer but he's probably not the ideal choice to run a film division. His grasp of the DC Universe is pretty solid imo, but then you don't even have a producer with credits anywhere near the likes of Kevin Feige, Kathleen Kennedy or even Lauren Shuler Donner.

 

[Flint Marko]

Don't know how I missed this but I just read Suicide Squad was having reshoots because it wasn't very good. It must be full on panic stations over at WB right now with this whole thing.

It's the rumor that just isn't going away. I didn't buy it at first and I'm still not sure if I do, but it's interesting how often this rumor about reshoots has reared it's head.