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I thought it was hysterical, I hate using this term, but....pwnd comes to mind.
 
I did not post any statement as fact or opinion...can you give a source for EVERYTHING you post here? No.... I simply heard in the NPR report on this subject that some were saying this was not the first time this sort of thing had come up with her name. THE REASON, I did not state it as FACT, was because it was simply from the news report I was listening to on my way home from work....I didn't state it to prove a point or even try to prove something I said in opinion or as fact.


And what the hell is with your last statement....lmao.

As for my last statement, I'm sorrhy that the Casablanca reference went over your head.

However, in post #4484, which I responded to, you wrote:

"Well, I have not seen the entire video, so its not a judgment I can make. But, yes some have said that within that speech there were some questionable statements, and that she has a history of this type of thing.

As I said, I have not seen the entire speech.....I might try and watch it all later on today when I get some time. "


That was all.

You did not cite NPR. You cited "Some have said". "Some" is not a valid source, particularl wrt Fox News and it's overuse of 'Some people say" segues to push innuendo into their reports.

So in that post, you used a Fox News technique to dennigrate a woman who'd just been slandered and that slander primarily perpetuated by... Fox News.

You got slammed for not sourcing your claims against Sherrod. Since the facts show you did not cite a source, that slam has been validated.

Ifyou didn't actually intend to further the villification process being perpetrated on Ms. Sherrod, apologize for some incredibly poor wording. If that was your intent, Man up and admit it.
 
First of all, it would be very hard for me to "man up" on anything... My intent was not do anything except be a part of the conversation. I did not cite NPR because I didn't see a need to, it was not a direct quote from anyone, I simply heard through the different interviews that day what I said....I did not quote anyone therefore a source IMO was not needed. This is done all the time here, in all forums. Now, if the rules are different for me....ok. But, really it wasn't a big deal.

Since you seem to be the only one that had a problem with what I said, I see no reason to apologize to anyone for anything. I didn't do anything wrong...

Unless you are her brother or something, and I'll apologize for upsetting you so much...other than that, nothing to apologize for...
 
There aren't too many times when I am dumbfounded on the boards...but this is one of those times. :dry:
 
Jane Skinner, the wife of NFL Commissioner Roger Goddell has left Fox News.

Jenna Lee from Fox Business News has replaced Jane Skinner on "Happening Now" weekdays...

Good choice, she's a sharp lady...
 
Unless you are her brother or something, and I'll apologize for upsetting you so much...other than that, nothing to apologize for...
Nothing like showing one's feeling gets hurt easily in a forum, by proxy of someone else, to demonstrate one's uber masculinity. :funny:
 
Bill had Laura Ingraham on tonight and I forgot how much I despise her-Hannity style of Conservatism. Ingraham bashed Michelle trying to get legislation passed to push public schools to offer healthy food choices.

Her argument was based around a few incredibly inane points:

That the government has no right to legislate the food of PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
That it infringes upon the rights of the child. Apparently public schools offering healthy food, instead of crap food, infringes upon the right to choose - even though in the same breath she said that if you are concerned about your kids diet you can pack him some tuna and an apple. (Why can't you pack your kid McDonalds instead?)

She brought up the Administration being distracted from larger issues, which is obviously a laughable position.

She then resorted to the most telling, most damning point of the entire rant. She mocked Obama on arugula. I have no doubt Ms. Ingraham attacks Democrats for playing class warfare with tax cuts and the like while this is blatant Conservative class warfare.

Unfortunately the more I listen to Republicans, the more I am convinced that they have learned nothing from 2008.

The way I now see it, the Future of America depends on the Tea Party. When a Republican President acts more like George Bush than Ron Paul after a 2012 election, it will be up to the Tea Party to attack the GOP with the force they have put on the DNC.

If they do...IF THEY DO - we can see the creation of a legit third party.
 
Today's Tea Party is nothing more than the extremist arm of the GOP. It would be different if this were primarily Ron Paul tea partiers...but it's not.
 
I think it is unfair to paint the ENTIRE Tea Party with one brush.

But even if we assume that you are correct, I have no interest in Today's Tea Party. I care about Tomorrow's.
 
I think it is unfair to paint the ENTIRE Tea Party with one brush.

But even if we assume that you are correct, I have no interest in Today's Tea Party. I care about Tomorrow's.

The evidence is right in front of you man...and I'm pretty sure you've agreed with me on this in the past.

Today's Tea Party is the Sarah Palin Tea Party...which is nothing more than an extremist arm of the GOP.
 
A large portion of the Tea Party is Sarah Palin inspired. A portion of it is Ron Paul. A portion of it is neither. A portion of it is both.

Furthermore, I don't think it's fair to lobby even a group of Sarah Palin supporters as "extreme". Those Tea Partiers that are simply members of the Palin Cult of Personality are no more extreme than the members of Obama Cult of Personality.
 
I don't see people who support Obama advocating succession, assisination, bigotry etc. They may not be right 100 percent of the time, but saying that they are as extreme as Teabaggers is false equivalency. Show me a picture of an Obama supporter calling Sarah Palin a c*nt, b*tch or any bigoted term for women, or going to her speeches strapped, ya know, just because.
 
If a legitimate 3rd party = the Tea Party, then I'll stick with the 2 party system, thank you very much.
 
I don't see people who support Obama advocating succession, assisination, bigotry etc. They may not be right 100 percent of the time, but saying that they are as extreme as Teabaggers is false equivalency. Show me a picture of an Obama supporter calling Sarah Palin a c*nt, b*tch or any bigoted term for women, or going to her speeches strapped, ya know, just because.

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If a legitimate 3rd party = the Tea Party, then I'll stick with the 2 party system, thank you very much.

Imagine the Tea Party not as your twisted perception of it, but what it should be: a political movement actually advocating a return to a Constitutional Republic.

A true (classical) liberal government based around the platform of destroying the IRS and replacing with the FairTax. A deregulation of the industry, leading to lower prices and more goods (especially in pharmaceuticals). Term limits. A fiscally responsible government :up:

The benefits to FairTax, deregulation and term limits help solve larger problems in Washington as a whole. The FairTax removes the politicization of taxation and takes a large chunk of lobbying work away by removing the need to appeal to government for tax credits. Deregulation serves also to remove special interest by removing the need for corporations to lobby Washington. Term limits prevent career politicians.

What? An actual platform to "Change the Culture of Corruption in Washington"?

How remarkable.
 
I don't agree with the FairTax. I'm in the middle of conservative country that loves the FairTax, and even with it being beefed up to sound like the greatest thing since sliced bread, they can't sell me on it. 30% sales tax? No thanks. You can't give me enough extra cash on my paycheck to make up for that.

Deregulation, as in the same deregulation that led to this economic meltdown in the first place? Sorry, I'm not a "WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE BIG BUSINESS" kind of guy.

There's really not a single thing that I've heard about the Tea Party that I agree with.

As the proud Liberal that I am, I don't have any inherent problems against the tax system that we have. I am happy that my tax dollars can go to social programs that help those that are less fortunate so that they can better their own situations and succeed. Yea, sometimes those tax dollars are misused, and people can take advantage of those social programs, but honestly I don't trust the people behind the Tea Party to spend my tax dollars in ways that I approve of any more than the current Democrats and Republicans.
 
First of all, it would be very hard for me to "man up" on anything... My intent was not do anything except be a part of the conversation. I did not cite NPR because I didn't see a need to, it was not a direct quote from anyone, I simply heard through the different interviews that day what I said....I did not quote anyone therefore a source IMO was not needed. This is done all the time here, in all forums. Now, if the rules are different for me....ok. But, really it wasn't a big deal.

Since you seem to be the only one that had a problem with what I said, I see no reason to apologize to anyone for anything. I didn't do anything wrong...

Unless you are her brother or something, and I'll apologize for upsetting you so much...other than that, nothing to apologize for...

Interesting world you live in. Only a blood relative can take offense for something that offended.

NPR became an issue because YOU raised it as your source in an attempt to weasel out of being the person who made an unattributed statement. "Some say" this is a sign of first degree jerkitude. Oh, that should have a source.

I am that source. That's an example of manning up.

You know damn well at least one person reading this board found what you said to be inappropriate and offensive, applying a new layer of slander on a woman who had enough of it to lose her job.

If it wasn't your intent to insult her, apologize for your very poor choice of words. If it WAS your intent all along to make her look guilty of something bad time to step up and admit it.

If you can't do either, that tells everyone reading this things about you that you probably will regret becoming known.
 
Bill had Laura Ingraham on tonight and I forgot how much I despise her-Hannity style of Conservatism. Ingraham bashed Michelle trying to get legislation passed to push public schools to offer healthy food choices.

Her argument was based around a few incredibly inane points:

That the government has no right to legislate the food of PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
That it infringes upon the rights of the child. Apparently public schools offering healthy food, instead of crap food, infringes upon the right to choose - even though in the same breath she said that if you are concerned about your kids diet you can pack him some tuna and an apple. (Why can't you pack your kid McDonalds instead?)

She brought up the Administration being distracted from larger issues, which is obviously a laughable position.

She then resorted to the most telling, most damning point of the entire rant. She mocked Obama on arugula. I have no doubt Ms. Ingraham attacks Democrats for playing class warfare with tax cuts and the like while this is blatant Conservative class warfare.

Unfortunately the more I listen to Republicans, the more I am convinced that they have learned nothing from 2008.

The way I now see it, the Future of America depends on the Tea Party. When a Republican President acts more like George Bush than Ron Paul after a 2012 election, it will be up to the Tea Party to attack the GOP with the force they have put on the DNC.

If they do...IF THEY DO - we can see the creation of a legit third party.

No the Tea Party is not the answer. They are simply a more radical version of the right wing republicans. IF we are ever going to be able to change this govt and the way it works we are going to have to find common ground. Not try to follow the fringe. Turn off the pundits and talking heads.
Start figuring out what is our biggest dysfunction and find a way to fix it.

I think our biggest problem is money influencing policy. We have to wean the piglets from the teat. They aren't going to do it themselves.
We have to set some campaign rules. The way it is now they can't do their jobs for raising money.

I personally think we could do without the Senate. It's nothing but a House of Lords. They make it far too easy for the money men to manipulate the legislation. Sometimes all it takes is one anonymous Senator to stop a bill.
But that's just me thinking out of the box.
 
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