🇺🇸 Discussion: General Election 2024, 🥥 VS 🍊

[Lily Adler]

So your argument is it has to be white guy because the country is too racist and sexist?

Then this Biden's fault. He chose his VP.

Does Pete work for those states or not because of the gay?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Does Pete work for those states or not because of the gay?

I think in a straight up primary, Pete does worse then Kamala.

For what it's worth, while the country is more stark in it's divide, I do not think it's "more" racist or sexist. I think the lines are just more definitively drawn.

I also think that people undersestimate how much of Hillary's problem was Hillary. There was a lot of sexism and racism (Obama residual) but a lot of people just hate Hillary herself. Part of it valid, part of it decades of right wing media attacks.

Kamala Coconuts doesn't have that issue. And I agree people aren't enthused by her. But they also aren't turned off by her. She's that "generic dem" with a boost in women and POC voting.

 

[Kane52630]

Matt "Longlegs" Gaetz

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

88% of American adults are straight according to a U.S. Census poll from a few years ago.

93% of voters in the 2022 and 2020 elections were straight according to the exit polls.

While it wouldn't be impossible for an openly gay elected president there's a lot of voters who wouldn't support one either.

Yes it bothers me a lot that straight white male candidates (and incumbents) have electoral advantages over other identities but that is our unfortunate reality.

 

[Lily Adler]

88% of American adults are straight according to a U.S. Census poll from a few years ago.

93% of voters in the 2022 and 2020 elections were straight according to the exit polls.

While it wouldn't be impossible for an openly gay elected president there's a lot of voters who wouldn't support one either.

Yes it bothers me a lot that straight white male candidates (and incumbents) have electoral advantages over other identities but that is our unfortunate reality.

Or at least they say they are.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

J.D. Vance Left His Venmo Public. Here’s What It Shows

The Republican VP nominee's Venmo network reveals connections ranging from the architects of Project 2025 to enemies of Donald Trump—and the populist's close ties to the very elites he rails against.

www.wired.com

 

[Kane52630]

 

[Bran The Man]

It never stops being funny being when you see these "free-thinkers" say things like, "Think for yourself, don't follow the herd!"

Only to turn around and follow the herd.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Shapiro sticks with Biden as pressure grows among top Democrats for president to drop out of race

Shapiro and other top Pennsylvania Democrats maintain they are solidly behind Biden.

www.pennlive.com

 

[Lily Adler]

Shapiro sticks with Biden as pressure grows among top Democrats for president to drop out of race

Shapiro and other top Pennsylvania Democrats maintain they are solidly behind Biden.

www.pennlive.com

So that means Beshear was given the VP slot.

 

[Cap2024]

88% of American adults are straight according to a U.S. Census poll from a few years ago.

93% of voters in the 2022 and 2020 elections were straight according to the exit polls.

While it wouldn't be impossible for an openly gay elected president there's a lot of voters who wouldn't support one either.

Yes it bothers me a lot that straight white male candidates (and incumbents) have electoral advantages over other identities but that is our unfortunate reality.

STOP mixing up straight people and homophobes. It's something homophobes do that is asinine and completely wrong.

All/most homophobes are straight, yes. HOWEVER not all straight people (common sense) are homophobes.

Furthering their narrative of acting like straight people automatically equates being homophobic only helps homophobes further incorrectly believe that their views are in the majority. Most straight people these days - aren't homophobic.

The percentage of straight people has zero weight here unless one wants to ridiculously make the claim that all straight people are homophobic. The data that actually does matter is those akin to the below link polling views regarding LGBTQIA+ people (of which, 67% support marriage rights, 76% support protection from discrimination, 60% opposed to religious discrimination against the community). The percentage of straight people has no bearing - since straight people aren't a monolith.

Poll shows US public support for LGBTQ+ protections falling for first time since 2015

New survey suggests decline has strong correlation between Christian nationalism and opposition to inclusive policies

www.theguardian.com

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

STOP mixing up straight people and homophobes. It's something homophobes do that is asinine and completely wrong.

All/most homophobes are straight, yes. HOWEVER not all straight people (common sense) are homophobes.

Furthering their narrative of acting like straight people automatically equates being homophobic only helps homophobes further incorrectly believe that their views are in the majority. Most straight people these days - aren't homophobic.

The percentage of straight people has zero weight here unless one wants to ridiculously make the claim that all straight people are homophobic. The data that actually does matter is those akin to the below link polling views regarding LGBTQIA+ people (of which, 67% support marriage rights, 76% support protection from discrimination, 60% opposed to religious discrimination against the community). The percentage of straight people has no bearing - since straight people aren't a monolith.

Poll shows US public support for LGBTQ+ protections falling for first time since 2015

New survey suggests decline has strong correlation between Christian nationalism and opposition to inclusive policies

www.theguardian.com

I said a lot of voters - and by that I meant ~24% of voters, which was what Gallup, Morning Consult, and some other polls from 2019 showed when the question was posed to respondents.

Nobody asks if straight people can be presidents, so straight candidates for president start in less of disadvantage.

That's all.

 

[Cap2024]

I said a lot of voters - and by that I meant ~24% of voters, which was what Gallup, Morning Consult, and some other polls from 2019 showed when the question was posed to respondents.

Nobody asks if straight people can be presidents, so straight candidates for president start in less of disadvantage.

That's all.

You said a lot of voters are straight. Exactly. THAT is COMPLETELY different than saying a lot of voters are homophobic.

Straight is not a synonym for homophobic. Most straight people statistically - aren't.

It's akin to if you posted the total number of white people in the country, rather than racists, as a number against a POC candidate. I'm certain you wouldn't do that due to knowing that not all white people are against POC. Same thing here.

Don't conflate the two. Conflating them strengthens the false narrative homophobes love to run with to inflate their numbers.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Republicans have nothing so here's Hulk Hogan tearing his shirt for Trump

On the final day of the Republican National Convention, in an attempt to spice up what has been a real snoozefest thus far, former professional wrestler and racist ranter Hulk Hogan, whose real name is Terry Bollea, took the stage.. In his trademark...

www.dailykos.com

Hulk Hogan Is Getting the Redemption Story He Never Earned

A biopic that won't tell the whole story serves no one.

www.gq.com

CNBC - Democratic megadonors push Biden to quit race, as Kamala Harris events fill up

• Donors who fund the Biden campaign are using their leverage with congressional leaders to pressure the president to drop out.
• As donors get cold feet, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, her husband former President Bill Clinton and Biden campaign co-chair and media mogul Jeff Katzenberg have all made pleas to donors, asking them to stick with Biden.
• Events that feature Vice President Kamala Harris, Biden’s likely successor should he step aside, have started to sell out.

 

[blueharvest]

Georgia Democrats file challenges to keep Kennedy and others off presidential ballot

Georgia Democrats are challenging efforts to place Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and three other candidates on the state’s presidential ballots It's part of a nationwide effort to block candidates who could siphon votes from incumbent President Joe Biden.

apnews.com

 

[blueharvest]

At the RNC, GOP speakers target Kamala Harris as speculation grows over Biden dropping out

Republicans in Milwaukee are taking direct aim at VP Harris in command in possible anticipation for her stepping up for the Democratic nomination.

www.usatoday.com

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Convicted felon takes the stage to accept Republican nomination again

Donald Trump, who is a convicted felon , will officially accept the Republican nomination for president Thursday night. He isn’t the first criminal to address the crowd at the Republican National ...

www.dailykos.com

Trump's crazy slips out at RNC with praise for 'late, great Hannibal Lecter'

Seems the breathless reporting that Donald Trump was a changed man who would give a different kind of speech at the Republican National Convention might have been a tad premature. Because after more than an hour of mostly reading from the teleprompter,...

www.dailykos.com

 

[blueharvest]

 

[blueharvest]

 

[Mani-Man]

CNN can eat a bag for all i care.
Whole left media is tame as it gets when they are in front of any Right winger, but when it comes to later having teeth or when it is about knocking democrats down...then they have fire.

 

[blueharvest]

 

[Lily Adler]

Between Democrats trying to get rid of Biden as the nominee because megadonors don't trust he can win and all the Republican infighting at the RNC, I think we need to rethink a Two Party system...

 

[Kane52630]

From the grave

 

[blueharvest]