Discussion: Global Warming, Emission Standards, and Other Environmental Issues

[Kelly]

Every time I come to the politics forum I hear "heretic never posts proof. Heretic never posts links supporting his opinion". Then I post outright proof backing me up 100%. Then the person changes the argument for a few pages before they revert back to "heretic doesnt post proof"

Just do me the favor of admitting that you are a troll and lets move on.

And for the record...I'm the one who said I havent seen proof...you claim not to need any...so in this joking discussion, I have a higher standard of proof than you do.

ok...

 

[Kelly]

What's going on with squirrels?

I don't remember exactly, but millions of dollars are being spent to get squirrels across a highway...."endangered squirrels, across a highway".

 

[Carcharodon]

I like all squirrels, endangered or not...

Endangered squirrels are so much cuter. Tastier, too.

 

[Marx]

I don't remember exactly, but millions of dollars are being spent to get squirrels across a highway...."endangered squirrels, across a highway".

Interesting.

 

[Carcharodon]

Interesting.

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=337848

 

[Marx]

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=337848

Wow...I must have missed that thread.

 

[StorminNorman]

The SuperMod Marx is a mere mortal after all!?

 

[Marx]

The SuperMod Marx is a mere mortal after all!?

 

[Kelly]

Endangered squirrels are so much cuter. Tastier, too.

Note: Earlier, I hit edit instead of quote......oooops.

 

[Carcharodon]

Note: Earlier, I hit edit instead of quote......oooops.

I was wondering about that.

 

[Kelly]

I usually do that about 3x a week....lol

 

[StorminNorman]

Had my first three days of oil recovery work. 7 days a week, 12 hours a day work

I must say, I have earned a lot of respect for BP's handling. Every beach on the gulf coast has BP presence - and will continue to have BP presence - until the clean up is over. The biggest pain in the ass has been the over-the-top OSHA regulations. Though I don't mind it too much.

I was talking to one of the crew leads that have been working for 7 weeks and he said that those "in the know" who he has talked to are expecting the recovery to take around 5-10 years. They are building "permanent" offices all along the gulf coast already.

Also, BP has been really good about taking care of locals. Fishermen are getting paid 1,200 dollars a day for boat rental (which has actually caused problems for local restaurants getting sea food - not because the sea food is gone, but because few fishermen want to fish when they can clean).

I am thinking about staying on for at least a 6 months. It sounds like OSHA is going to want to eventually cut back to 6-5 day/8 hour weeks.

 

[Marx]

7 days a week at 12 hours per day? That's alot of work man...

 

[StorminNorman]

84 hours a week. In the Florida sun. We have five flags: white, green, yellow, red and black. They are based on heat indexes (temperature and humidity factored in). Black is 130 degrees and I think red is 100. Yellow is probably 80 or so. It's never been below yellow, and is normally in the red.

The impact it has on the job is significant. When on yellow, we work 30-40 mintues with a 15-20 minute break. Red, it's 30 work/30 break. Black 10 min work, 40 min break.

I haven't done beach work yet (been mostly loading and unloading boom), but apparently the sand only amplifies the sun and heat. When we start dealing in oil, we have to wear Class B or C hazmat suits (which consists of full body - but not air tight - paper suits and either a breathing respirator (Class B) or an air filter (Class C). That is the work I am not looking forward to, lol.

It's totally worth it though. The money is good (we should take home a grand a week), I have handled the heat extremely well and the chance to be apart of history is priceless. Not to mention the fact that it is going to be better than a military record when it comes to me running for office in Florida.

Everything I have heard points to the notion that OSHA will shut down the 7/84 week after a while. In my HAZWOPER class (which was a complete joke - nothing covered in class is really pertinent to our operations) it mentioned that OSHA typically recommends 5-6 days at 8 hours shifts.

I'm working at Port St. Joe currently, just give you reference if you hear anything about operations there

 

[Marx]

84 hours a week. In the Florida sun. We have five flags: white, green, yellow, red and black. They are based on heat indexes (temperature and humidity factored in). Black is 130 degrees and I think red is 100. Yellow is probably 80 or so. It's never been below yellow, and is normally in the red.

The impact it has on the job is significant. When on yellow, we work 30-40 mintues with a 15-20 minute break. Red, it's 30 work/30 break. Black 10 min work, 40 min break.

I haven't done beach work yet (been mostly loading and unloading boom), but apparently the sand only amplifies the sun and heat. When we start dealing in oil, we have to wear Class B or C hazmat suits (which consists of full body - but not air tight - paper suits and either a breathing respirator (Class B) or an air filter (Class C). That is the work I am not looking forward to, lol.

It's totally worth it though. The money is good (we should take home a grand a week), I have handled the heat extremely well and the chance to be apart of history is priceless. Not to mention the fact that it is going to be better than a military record when it comes to me running for office in Florida.

Everything I have heard points to the notion that OSHA will shut down the 7/84 week after a while. In my HAZWOPER class (which was a complete joke - nothing covered in class is really pertinent to our operations) it mentioned that OSHA typically recommends 5-6 days at 8 hours shifts.

I'm working at Port St. Joe currently, just give you reference if you hear anything about operations there

I think you're doing a great thing...just make sure you stay safe man.

 

[StorminNorman]

Thats my number one priority. i drink probably 12 bottles of water a day, plus a half gallon on the hour drive to work, lol. They are doing a great job putting a priority on safety on the job site.

 

[imdaly]

Truly inspiring, Stormin.

High five.

 

[chaseter]

Wait...10 minutes working and a 30 minute break? Where do I sign up?

 

[VampElvis]

Good on you, Norm! The hydration plan seems sound, and is truly a necessity so keep it up (those who've never lived in our climate don't understand how oppressing the heat/humidity combo can really be). We're all rooting for you and all your co-workers to succeed.

 

[chaseter]

Our climate?

Norm, do you have to wear a full on plastic suit or just a respirator?

 

[StorminNorman]

Truly inspiring, Stormin.

High five.

Good on you, Norm! The hydration plan seems sound, and is truly a necessity so keep it up (those who've never lived in our climate don't understand how oppressing the heat/humidity combo can really be). We're all rooting for you and all your co-workers to succeed.

Thanks guys

Wait...10 minutes working and a 30 minute break? Where do I sign up?

Haha, I really do encourage everyone that is willing to put forth the time to give it a try. It's hard work. Ironically I am not working today - haha.

 

[VampElvis]

Our climate?

HA! Nothing of offense toward anyone. I also live on the Gulf Coast, albeit in a much more swampy area north west of Norm. Our climates are similar, and subtropical, and nothing at all like the climates where many of the other posters on the board are. And if you've never been out working on a pipeline, on a roof, or in an attic down here it's really hard to relate the experience. And it gets 100x worse when you have to wear a respirator.

 

[Anita18]

HA! Nothing of offense toward anyone. I also live on the Gulf Coast, albeit in a much more swampy area north west of Norm. Our climates are similar, and subtropical, and nothing at all like the climates where many of the other posters on the board are. And if you've never been out working on a pipeline, on a roof, or in an attic down here it's really hard to relate the experience. And it gets 100x worse when you have to wear a respirator.

I was just in Baltimore over the weekend and ughhh it was 90F with 40% humidity at 10:30am outside with no sun and I was already like, "graaaaaaaaaargh." And I'm the cold one in our family - mid-70s to low-80s with sun in LA is perfect for me, while my sister prefers cloudy 65F in SanFran! Obviously she was utterly miserable.

So major props to you Norm! Stay safe!

 

[Marx]

60's and 70's is my perfect weather.

 

[chaseter]

HA! Nothing of offense toward anyone. I also live on the Gulf Coast, albeit in a much more swampy area north west of Norm. Our climates are similar, and subtropical, and nothing at all like the climates where many of the other posters on the board are. And if you've never been out working on a pipeline, on a roof, or in an attic down here it's really hard to relate the experience. And it gets 100x worse when you have to wear a respirator.

No doubt I am sure it sucks with a respirator. I live in Texas. My dad owns a construction company. He made me work for him a couple of summers. You haven't felt hot until you are on top of a metal building laying the tin roof in 110 degree weather and having to wear pants, boots, and long sleeve shirts so you don't sun burn. I am sure it is hot in Florida but 10 minutes working and then 30 minute breaks...that just seems posh

Closest I have got to passing out from heat exhaustion was at an A&M football game. I didn't drink enough fluids and it gets extremely, I mean extremely, hot in that stadium in the summer afternoon. You have to stand up the entire game. It was nearly half time and I started to get dizzy and I suddenly went blind and started freaking out. I immediately sat down before I passed out and my vision slowly came back and I went and cooled off in the bathroom.