Age of Ultron Discussion of an Infinity Gauntlet story

[Mightyally]

I am going to list what I got that could indicate an involvement of the IG in Avengers 2 or 3 and how I think it´s linked together. It´s a lot to read so buckle up.

After having read this:

1. If you do think this is possible, please share your thoughts and some more leads that you might have found that I didn´t. Perhaps you agree but some pieces are just placed wrong.

2. If you don´t believe that the IG is going to be a part of TA2 or 3 please share why as well!

3. If you didn´t read it all, just share what you think!

Acknowledge the Mind Gem maybe?
The scepter is wielded by Loki in the Avengers. It definitely had some juice to bring to the party. It could control minds, open rifts, shoot awesomely bluish energy and it also in some way changed the wielders and the victim’s mind and eye color(to blue). It is also connected to the cosmic cube a.k.a. the Tesseract, which now is located at Odin’s crib. http://goo.gl/bQewK The blue so called mind-soul/infinity-gem in the comics with Thanos kindaaaa reminds me of this scepter. Coincidence?

Thanos will be back
Thanos was introduced during the end of the Avengers movie. The uttering of the words “To challenge them is to court death” makes Thanos smile. His goal is to impress the entity Death (one of the 4 Big Bang survivors). So in the comics his quest to impress her involves finding the infinity gauntlet, which in the movies is conveniently located at Odin’s crib. Thanos should therefore go towards Asgard. Don’t take the quotation serious btw, it is more of an ending line that´s telling us Thanos is going to enjoy visiting us in some other way. I think that Thanos and the IG are going to play an awesome part of what I believe to be an Avengers trilogy. It is also likely that he keeps pulling some strings in the upcoming movie Guardians of the galaxy. I´m convinced that more pieces of the puzzle will be given in the upcoming Marvel movies thus linking them together more clearly.

If Thanos is at all interested in the Infinity Gauntlet.
1. The scepter was able to, with the help of the cube, open a rift. This made it possible to instantly travel vast distances in space. If Thanos could do it again with another gem, it would be possible for him to teleport into Odins crib. This is of course if an All/Sky-father is unaware or careless enough to not investigate what the cube is capable of. Since we have seen that Odin possesses knowledge of the gems and the IG it is safe to say that he also knows some about the cube since they seem to be connected. We also know that Odin is connected to the cube from the Cap movie? Odin is wise, no way Thanos sneaks in!

2. The IG in Asgard is hard to get a hold of and Thanos must go in with force, hence probably battle Odin (which only would be like the most awesome battle ever seen! Yes!) Of course Thanos would have to gain the gauntlet and some gems. But it’s way more likely that Odin gets distracted and they never fight, but still awesome.

Comic-Con 2010

Thor the movie

Marvel official webpage 2011/when Avengers were set in motion:

How come only certain gems were removed? Could it be because one of them was going to be stolen and used in the scepter by Loki? Warlock Adam is by the way given the green soul gem, and he is a member of The Guardians of the galaxy. So naturally green and blue shouldn’t be in Odin´s possession, which they aren’t. That doesn´t explain why Odin even has the IG with the reality, power, time and space gem. Well I’m just spitballing here, but perhaps Odin took it from Le Thanos before he could assemble all gems. If Odin had some gems and built the Tesseract perhaps Thanos came for it in the Avengers, Idk it´s tricky.

http://goo.gl/C3WFp If you pause at 00.28 seconds, you see Thanos hand. Why did they suddenly film his right hand like that?
We do know that IG in the MCU is right-handed and now we know Thanos doesn´t have it thus acknowledging Odin´s likely possession of it.

Now that Warlock Adam and his galaxy guardian buddies appear in the MCU he could manage to get a hold of the green gem.

Signs from the new Thor trailer that could indicate an involvement of the Infinity Gauntlet
Thor trailer: http://goo.gl/amtIW
“Some believe that before the universe, there was nothing. They are wrong, there was darkness. And it has survived” My first thought was Galactus the devourer, (who I thought was the only survivor of the Big Bang). Galactus is known for using his Heralds, one dude that gets an item with the ability to channel power cosmic yada yada yada. Galactus doesn´t fit the profile here at all! So I checked and there were actually 3 other survivors. Death, Eternity and a super entity that actually is turned into the infinity gems: http://goo.gl/i90nO
Thanks to IMDB http://goo.gl/EVRVw it was confirmed that the movies was going to be about the nine realms since Malekith and Algrim were going to be in the TDW. If we talk Malekith, we could talk Surtur and if we talk Surtur we could easily be dealing with someone like Thanos. If Thanos is pulling the Malekith-strings, could Malekith in the trailer, be referring to Miss D or this Super entity that became the infinity gems?

It is obvious that the war occurs both in Asgard as well as in Midgard. This could mean that mighty Thor is away fighting which renders Odin weaker thus making it possible for Mr Thanos to bust in! Steal the Infinity Gauntlet! And most bodaciously get the hell out, only to collect the green gem in Guardians of the galaxy. We don´t know for sure that the gems will be separated but I don’t really think it is possible that all the gems are in Odin´s treasure vault. If they were and Thanos got them, the Avengers couldn´t stand a chance. If Thanos failed to attack Asgard with Malekith, would the Avengers defend Asgard (->the gauntlet) against yet another attack, no! I think that that´s exactly what Marvel realized and therefore officially “released” IG V.2 to the public, making it possible to see that some gems were missing. Skadouch! The scepter/blue gem and Adam Warlock/green gem might be hunted and you can bet your bacon that the Avengers will be there to prevent the Titan from completing his golden glove.

Remember that in the comic books the IG appears on different hands with different color combinations. MCU has chosen to have them in their own way. First of all it is a right handed glove. Second of all the red gem is located on the middlefinger knuckle. We know that the picture of the IG from Comic-con 2010 is containing the same IG used in Thor 1 (That´s why it was in comic-con) so don´t get deceived by the bad picture from the Thor movie. It is the same gauntlet. The last pic of the IG from 2011 arrived when Avengers 1 were set in motion, it missed some gems. The gems of the gauntlet are from left to right starting with the thumb: Yellow, Green, Red, Orange and Purple. This means that if Odin still has the gauntlet it´s only going to contain the yellow, red, orange and purple gem. It is possible that the yellow gem (located on the thumb knuckle) isn´t there, it is hard to tell if it´s brightly yellow or just white but it´s shaped as if something was there so.

Don´t take this super serious. Remember that I am just a fan trying to puzzle some pieces together. We really know nothing for sure I just you found it interesting in some way!

 

[cherokeesam]

Yeah, I've said pretty much most of what you posted here for many months now. I'm positive that the story is going to revolve around Thanos trying to steal (back?) the Gauntlet from Odin's Treasury, and he needed to maneuver the Tesseract into place in Asgard (via Loki's failure in TA1) to accomplish this. Of course, he'll need a distraction to keep Thor and Odin occupied while he snatches the gauntlet, and that's where the Marauder army (more Thanos mercenaries?) comes into play.

 

[Mightyally]

Yes okey! It is nice to hear you say that.

Back...Yes could be. I must try to find more information about Thanos before Thanos Quest. Then I can come up with a theory about how Odin got the IG.

I wonder how big Thanos army will be. Exciteeed

 

[Vartha]

I remember someone saying that Loki was supposed to make a deal WITH Thanos for the Gauntlet, I don't remember who tho other than it was someone with one of the movies.
It IS possible Loki takes one jewel to TEASE Thanos

 

[Mightyally]

Haha the trickster God

You don´t mean the mind gem? Or another just to make sure
Thanos won´t win if he gets the glove?

 

[Vartha]

Gem, Jewel Loki borrows stuff without asking quite a bit. lol
BUT, what if it was ODIN who removed the Gem so the Gauntlet couldn't be used, seeing as Frigga had seen Loki talking to Thanos?
SEE this topic would be best in the Thor threads more than Avengers, even tho it would take the Avengers to CRUSH Thanos with the IG.

 

[Rock Sexton]

I remember someone saying that Loki was supposed to make a deal WITH Thanos for the Gauntlet, I don't remember who tho other than it was someone with one of the movies.
It IS possible Loki takes one jewel to TEASE Thanos

Takes it from where though? That would imply he did it back in the Thor movie and that he knew of Thanos before he dropped into the void, presumed to have died.

 

[Vartha]

Takes it from where though? That would imply he did it back in the Thor movie and that he knew of Thanos before he dropped into the void, presumed to have died.

I remember hearing that Loki promises Thanos the Gauntlet for his help in Avengers.

NOW that the deal is done and Thanos gave his help, maybe Loki takes one of the gems to tease Thanos in some way or maybe even hides the Gem for later giving Thanos part NOW and Part LATER to keep him from killing Loki for not giving him the tesseract

 

[Rock Sexton]

I remember hearing that Loki promises Thanos the Gauntlet for his help in Avengers.

NOW that the deal is done and Thanos gave his help, maybe Loki takes one of the gems to tease Thanos in some way or maybe even hides the Gem for later giving Thanos part NOW and Part LATER to keep him from killing Loki for not giving him the tesseract

Oh, ok you mean he's going to take it in T:TDW

 

[Mightyally]

Could it have been possible for Loki to take the gem back in the Thor 1 movie?

I mean that he had the gem in his possesion when he fell in the void? Perhaps that is why Thanos found him?
Together with Thanos tech (built by the Chitauri) they managed to tap into the cubes power. Thanos tought the cube and Loki to be of use so
as a leader Thanos gave his solider a gem/allowing him to keep it and told him to collect the cube.

Unfortunately for mr T Loki failed and now the gem as well as the cube are in Asgard.
Maybe this theory is insane Idk, it´s hard to speculate about^^

 

[cherokeesam]

Could it have been possible for Loki to take the gem back in the Thor 1 movie?

I mean that he had the gem in his possesion when he fell in the void? Perhaps that is why Thanos found him?
Together with Thanos tech (built by the Chitauri) they managed to tap into the cubes power. Thanos tought the cube and Loki to be of use so
as a leader Thanos gave his solider a gem/allowing him to keep it and told him to collect the cube.

Unfortunately for mr T Loki failed and now the gem as well as the cube are in Asgard.
Maybe this theory is insane Idk, it´s hard to speculate about^^

I don't think Loki had any Gems at all when he fell into the abyss, no.

But I think you, and Vartha, and I are on the right track here. The way I see it: sometime in the distant past, Thanos made the Gauntlet, and he and Odin (and whatever other cosmic poobahs) squared off in an epic battle which Odin (somehow) managed to win. Odin now keeps the Gauntlet along with other cosmic artifacts in his Treasury for safekeeping --- it *was* supposedly one of the most secure sites in the cosmos, until Loki unlocked the back door to let those filthy Jotuns in. But Odin took the extra step of removing the most powerful Gem from the Gauntlet to depower it, and placed/discarded the Soul Gem somewhere far, far away.

So now Thanos' quest is to (a) get the Gauntlet from Odin's Treasury, probably at least attempting that in TDW; and (b) get the Soul Gem "key" to power it up, and that's the maguffin that the GOTG find in *their* possession.

Nice, neat, simple way to link the Avengers films, TDW, and GOTG, and set up an Infinity Gauntlet showcase in Avengers 2.

 

[Mightyally]

I don't think Loki had any Gems at all when he fell into the abyss, no.

But I think you, and Vartha, and I are on the right track here. The way I see it: sometime in the distant past, Thanos made the Gauntlet, and he and Odin (and whatever other cosmic poobahs) squared off in an epic battle which Odin (somehow) managed to win. Odin now keeps the Gauntlet along with other cosmic artifacts in his Treasury for safekeeping --- it *was* supposedly one of the most secure sites in the cosmos, until Loki unlocked the back door to let those filthy Jotuns in. But Odin took the extra step of removing the most powerful Gem from the Gauntlet to depower it, and placed/discarded the Soul Gem somewhere far, far away.

So now Thanos' quest is to (a) get the Gauntlet from Odin's Treasury, probably at least attempting that in TDW; and (b) get the Soul Gem "key" to power it up, and that's the maguffin that the GOTG find in *their* possession.

Nice, neat, simple way to link the Avengers films, TDW, and GOTG, and set up an Infinity Gauntlet showcase in Avengers 2.

It feels like the red gem would be nice to remove

 

[jaqua99]

I don't think Loki had any Gems at all when he fell into the abyss, no.

But I think you, and Vartha, and I are on the right track here. The way I see it: sometime in the distant past, Thanos made the Gauntlet, and he and Odin (and whatever other cosmic poobahs) squared off in an epic battle which Odin (somehow) managed to win. Odin now keeps the Gauntlet along with other cosmic artifacts in his Treasury for safekeeping --- it *was* supposedly one of the most secure sites in the cosmos, until Loki unlocked the back door to let those filthy Jotuns in. But Odin took the extra step of removing the most powerful Gem from the Gauntlet to depower it, and placed/discarded the Soul Gem somewhere far, far away.

So now Thanos' quest is to (a) get the Gauntlet from Odin's Treasury, probably at least attempting that in TDW; and (b) get the Soul Gem "key" to power it up, and that's the maguffin that the GOTG find in *their* possession.

Nice, neat, simple way to link the Avengers films, TDW, and GOTG, and set up an Infinity Gauntlet showcase in Avengers 2.

Generally, that's what it's going to be. Or Thanos needs the soul gem to make everything real? GotG is going to blow our minds I bet

 

[xMagma1Tragx1]

this sequel is primarily interesting because of the "end credits" of movie one ~awesome ~

 

[Vartha]

Oh, ok you mean he's going to take it in T:TDW

I would think Loki would do something connected to the "deal" they had to have struck while he was with Thanos and the Other.
IF, that is, what was said so long ago was true, or still is true. I didn't really see a hint in the Prelude comic but that Frigga was "swatted away" by Loki while he was busy with Thanos and the Other.

 

[Mightyally]

So I heard that someone talked about Ultron getting his hands on an infinity gem.
Possible? Tbh I don´t know how that could happen!

Any thoughts?

 

[ares834]

On the subject of an Infinity Gauntlet film, I just don't think it would work for the Avengers. It's just too big. Don't get me wrong, I love the comic but the Avengers are really just thrown in there. All they really do is get their ass kicked. It's the cosmic gods like Galactus and Death and the Celestials that are a "threat" to Thanos, and even then he just brushes them aside in the end.

Not saying it can't play apart, but if it does the film should be about the Avengers preventing Thanos from getting the Gauntlet not fighting him while he already has it.

 

[jaqua99]

Was just some speculation I came up with lol. Who knows.

 

[Rock Sexton]

So I heard that someone talked about Ultron getting his hands on an infinity gem.
Possible? Tbh I don´t know how that could happen!

Any thoughts?

No.

 

[Broseph44]

I would think Loki would do something connected to the "deal" they had to have struck while he was with Thanos and the Other.
IF, that is, what was said so long ago was true, or still is true. I didn't really see a hint in the Prelude comic but that Frigga was "swatted away" by Loki while he was busy with Thanos and the Other.

Is it the Thor:TDW prelude comic that discusses more about Loki and Thanos' meeting? I might have to grab it.

 

[Mightyally]

http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/07/20/marvel-head-talks-thanos-ultron-comic-con-2013

I really recommend you to watch this video. It confirms alot of things

 

[Ultron]

Mightyally, that is a lot of work/research! Well done!

New to posting on the site, but have read for a long time and I have to say that was one of the best things I have read on here. I love the IG story and hope everything you pointed out is going to come to fruition.

I don't think they could do it in just one Avenger's film, though. I'm sure they don't plan on stopping at a trilogy. If they did the IG they could extend it into A3 or A4? Any thoughts about them doing something like that?

 

[Mightyally]

Mightyally, that is a lot of work/research! Well done!

New to posting on the site, but have read for a long time and I have to say that was one of the best things I have read on here. I love the IG story and hope everything you pointed out is going to come to fruition.

I don't think they could do it in just one Avenger's film, though. I'm sure they don't plan on stopping at a trilogy. If they did the IG they could extend it into A3 or A4? Any thoughts about them doing something like that?

I am glad to hear you say that!

Yeah there are SDCC interviews where they actually said that they have big plans for Thanos in the long run and that the next time we will actually see him again (and not just some of his underlings) is in Gotg!

So yes I expect (think it´s confirmed) that they are going to make a third A movie with him as the big bad wolf. I don´t know 100% if A4 will happen because that´s like 5-6 years from, don´t know if they will keep it up that long. What I do believe on the other hand is that Ant-man, Deadpool, Gotg, F4 is on the move, which opens a spot for Ultron or Thanos to reappear. Both are villains that tend to get away only to appear somewhere else!

I´ll see if I can´t find you those interviews, really good if one is interested

 

[Mightyally]

http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/07/20/marvel-head-talks-thanos-ultron-comic-con-2013

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=38238

Check these out!

 

[DrCosmic]

So I heard that someone talked about Ultron getting his hands on an infinity gem.
Possible? Tbh I don´t know how that could happen!

Any thoughts?

I don't think I'd like that. The Gem would kind of alter the character's abilities, and Ultron would end up being like any other guy who used the Gem to fight the Avengers instead of doing Ultron stuff.