Discussion: Racism - Part 2

[hellified]

Didn't the Florida PD offer public statements to defend their position on releasing Zimmerman? Like, maybe, given the prevalence of the "stand your ground" law, they had no choice about whether to release him without any immediate evidence to contradict his story of being attacked?

I don't see anything on Wikipedia about what the Florida DA did or didn't do. The Sanford police chief and county state attorney apparently had charge of the investigation, and they didn't pursue the case. Public protests ensued, both men stepped down from the investigation, and then State Attorney Angela Corey took over the prosecution by the Florida governor's appt. If you want to claim that the police chief and the first attorney were racists because they didn't pursue Zimmerman, that's a possible argument. But I don't see how the arresting officers had any alternative but to let Zimmerman go under state law-- though none of that exculpates officers who have genuinely committed crimes against black persons, as in the cases of Sandra Bland and Freddie Grey.

I don't think stand your ground applied in this case and it wasn't brought up during the trial. But whats the real crux of the issue isn't what the law states at any given incident its that the gatekeepers and people in authority have defacto power in executing the law. And yes I'm claiming race played a factor in the police chief and first attorney determining to not pursue the case. If a black zimmerman killed a white trevor martin who was unarmed with junk food in his pockets we all know there wouldn't need to be an outcry months later for a further investigation of that incident. It would have happened regardless of the outcome.

 

[Schlosser85]

He probably would have been shot dead on the sidewalk.

 

[chaseter]

Rachel Dolezal is back in the news.

 

[ouroboros]

I don't think stand your ground applied in this case and it wasn't brought up during the trial. But whats the real crux of the issue isn't what the law states at any given incident its that the gatekeepers and people in authority have defacto power in executing the law. And yes I'm claiming race played a factor in the police chief and first attorney determining to not pursue the case. If a black zimmerman killed a white trevor martin who was unarmed with junk food in his pockets we all know there wouldn't need to be an outcry months later for a further investigation of that incident. It would have happened regardless of the outcome.

I believe it was one month.

I don't concede that every Afro American suspect in a murder case automatically gets different treatment. But assuming that a black guy was in the exact same position as Zimmerman on that night-- someone with no serious record, who was a member of a citizens' watch group, and a resident at a similar gated community-- it's entirely possible he would have been released for the time being, at least until a district attorney or similar authority weighed in.

 

[ouroboros]

He probably would have been shot dead on the sidewalk.

You mean like O.J. was shot during the White Bronco Chase, because his buddy Cowlings claimed that O.J. was holding a gun to his head?

I notice, in reading up on Cowlings, that though he was initially charged with a felony for helping Simpson flee the cops, the charge was dropped for "lack of evidence"-- which I consider code for "we don't wanna try him and create another media circus."

 

[chaseter]

Way to go loser white guys...says black guy.

http://nypost.com/2017/04/06/lavar-ball-blames-3-slow-footed-white-guys-for-uclas-demise/

 

[Docker2.0]

Way to go loser white guys...says black guy.

http://nypost.com/2017/04/06/lavar-ball-blames-3-slow-footed-white-guys-for-uclas-demise/

Why didn't you comment on that guy that went to NYC to kill black dudes?

 

[chaseter]

Am I the official spokesperson for all white people? That guy deserves life in jail for a hate crime. He will get life in jail. What is going to happen LaVar Ball? Nothing. So...your point is???

 

[Kelly]

Are we actually comparing one incident to the other? Really?

LaVar Ball racist? sure..... Idiot? definitely. Worth my effort typing this post? no.

 

[chaseter]

I only think one person is comparing.

 

[Kelly]

I only think one person is comparing.

Hmmmm....

I would say that ANY insertion of racism into an incident that is then placed in this thread would be a comparison to all other incidents placed in this thread. That is just the reality of it.

 

[chaseter]

Hmmmm....

I would say that ANY insertion of racism into an incident that is then placed in this thread would be a comparison to all other incidents placed in this thread. That is just the reality of it.

The guy racist murdering others is worse than the guy saying racist things in public so to me there is no comparison other than both are instances of racism...which is what this thread is about. Condemning another is not condoning the other so they aren't comparable to me...other than the perp was racist.

 

[Kelly]

Agreed...

 

[RockSP]

"My half white son couldn't win because of white guys."

 

[Docker2.0]

Are we actually comparing one incident to the other? Really?

LaVar Ball racist? sure..... Idiot? definitely. Worth my effort typing this post? no.

The reason I brought it up is because some people seem to ignore certain situations but love to scream that minorities whine way to much. Some people have said(in so many words)that minorities(particular blacks)whine about racism but are the most racist people around. Yet when a situation like dude going out of his way to murder blacks in hope to get a race war started, not a word is said. This dude came to NYC with murder on his mind. Ball SAID something but yet it's being blown out of proportions. Was it stupid? Yes because his kids are mixed so is he part of the problem as well? Or was he just selling his brand? Huge difference!

 

[TheCommissioner]

Woman banned from Uber for life after racist tirade

http://www.theroot.com/uber-bans-pa..._source=theroot_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

apparently this all started because the driver didn't have an Iphone charger

 

[Docker2.0]

Wasn't she Dominican? That's like a Chinese person calling a Japanese person Asian. This country is so divided that it's not even funny. As for that video, she should have charged with at the very least simple assault. Threatening someone with rape is no joke.

 

[Sithborg]

So, it looks like New Orleans is beginning to remove controversial monuments.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/24/us/new-orleans-confederate-statues/

The extent they are going to do it is kind of crazy. But, I guess it is better to take the threat of white supremecists seriously. I can understand some reasonable objections to the Confederate monuments, but jesus h crackers, that Battle of Liberty Place monument should've been destroyed a long time ago.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

What is controversial about removing of the monuments that does not involve racism? These are symbols of racism and treason.

 

[hellified]

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Florida Construction Company Gets Caught On Camera Openly Discriminating Against Black People! "They Don't Want No Black People"

 

[hellified]

Evidence tossed in ex-Hawk Scott’s drug case

The two-year-old drug case against former Hawks player Mike Scott has all but ended after a Banks County judge suppressed critical evidence against him, writing that county deputies “did not enforce the law in a racially neutral manner.”

In a ruling signed Friday, Banks County Superior Court Judge Currie M. Mingledorff found that county sheriffs had no grounds to stop Scott’s car, which precipitated the incident, showed no probable cause to arrest Scott and his brother Antonn, who was driving the car, and that the subsequent search of the car was not proper.

“In my 35 years of practicing law, this could be the worst case of racial profiling I have ever seen, and hopefully this will lead to Banks County, Georgia, re-evaluating their policies,” Steve Weiner, Scott’s attorney, said in a Tuesday email.

According to Mingledorff’s ruling, 44 of Register’s 47 arrests on more than 1,400 traffic stops in 2105 and 2016 involved minorities in a county that is more than 90 percent white — “truly shocking” numbers, the judge said. “The court does not believe the BCSO Criminal Interdiction Unit enforced the law in a racially neutral manner when interacting with the Scott brothers,” he added in his ruling.

http://www.ajc.com/sports/basketball/evidence-tossed-hawk-scott-drug-case/YdqSk7Ul8VU8KZoQtwkhGJ/

 

[chaseter]

Harvard to hold black only graduation: https://www.google.com/amp/www.inde...aduates-may-2017-ivy-league-a7730686.html?amp

Separate but equal?

I like how their goal is to reclaim a white colonist institution. Equality!

 

[hellified]

now google how Harvard was built on slavery...

 

[Docker2.0]

now google how Harvard was built on slavery...

And there was a hush in Jerusalem.

 

[chaseter]

Speaking of Jerusalem, I'm pretty sure Egypt doesn't do Jewish only graduations. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

People demand equality and an end to racism but purposefully separate themselves from everyone else. Yeah, that's gonna solve racism. What's next, separate drinking fountains at the school? Can't drink from those white colonialist fountains.