Do Bond fans hate Roger Moore ?

[Batman*]

I always thought that most audiences liked Moore's portrayal of Bond, but I've since read that thats only the general public and that most actual Bond fans dislike him because he wasn't serious enough, is this true ?. And if not, where does he stand for most Bond fans ?, 2nd best, 3rd best ECT.

 

[deathshead2]

I enjoyed his bond.

 

[The Chairman]

I love Moore (I love all the Bonds except for Lazenby and Dalton, and even them I really like). His films were fun, he had a lot of the best one liners, & overall he did a great job with the part.

 

[Catman]

Roger Moore is the funny Bond. I have nothing against Moore cause he was a lot of fun. It's just that he didn't do the best movies.

Live & Let Die = Crap
TMWTGG = Crap
TSWLM = AWESOME! His best!
Moonraker = Crap
FYEO = People love it but I don't.
Octopussy = Lots of fun
A View To A Kill = Not as bad as people make it out to be but he was too old.

So, yeah, I have nothing against Moore. He was fun but he was the funny one and his movies weren't really that good. With the exception of The Spy Who Loved Me. Had all his films been like that then maybe I would love him.

 

[Lord Blackbolt]

Live and Let Die was awesome....it had a vodoo priest and had that awesome scene where Bond tricks the lady with the cards so he can take her virginity.

 

[swifty]

I don't understand the hatred toward Moonraker....so what if bond was in space......WHY NOT?

Then Man with Golden Gun...another perfect bond movie for me.

 

[st barbara]

I think that Moore's portrayal of Bond was too "light". He was also hampered by plots that were frequently less believable than some of the other people who played Bond. He also didn't seem to have the tough edge that I enjoyed in Connery and Dalton, almost as if he was still playing Simon Templar with a namechange !

 

[Catman]

Live and Let Die was awesome....it had a vodoo priest and had that awesome scene where Bond tricks the lady with the cards so he can take her virginity.

Yes...Live & Let Die does have it's good moments. The song by Paul McCartney is one of the series best. Although Paul was probably on acid when he wrote it.

But, the movie still sucked. To begin with...the teaser was horrible! Worst teaser in Bond history. James Bond is not even in the teaser. How can you have a James Bond teaser without Bond? I mean, yeah, it worked in FRWL but here it was a shame. Secondly, Roger Moore got the worst introduction of all the Bonds. Yes his introduction did indeed say to the world that he's the "funny Bond" but it was lame nonetheless. Connery was introduced at a casino, Lazenby rescued Tracy from drowning at the ocean which was followed by one of the best fight scenes in Bond history, Dalton got introduced during that paint ball battle gone wrong scenario, and Brosnan got a pretty cool introduction with the guy in the bathroom, 006, and the airplane. Now, look at Moore's introduction. His whole introduction revolves around him hiding some Italian princess from M. And, now let's talk about the film itself. Honestly...I felt like I was watching Shaft sometimes. It's obvious that they were trying to cash-in on the success of blaxploitation films. Just like they tried to cash-in on the success of Star Wars with Moonraker.

I don't understand the hatred toward Moonraker....so what if bond was in space......WHY NOT?

I'm not even gonna waste my time explaining this to you. Maybe Kevin Roegle will take his time and explain it carefully.

 

[mister Lennon]

I liked his work a lot, in fact , he is my favourite bond after sean connery. If Connery would never played bond, roger would be the first one. He was charm and classy, and with a great sense of humour. The only con of him is that he was too old in his last movies and his sense of humour was too campy in those last movies. But for the rest, he is a great, great bond.

 

[mister Lennon]

I mean, when i heard james bond, i think about connery or moore at the moment.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

I always thought that most audiences liked Moore's portrayal of Bond, but I've since read that thats only the general public and that most actual Bond fans dislike him because he wasn't serious enough, is this true ?. And if not, where does he stand for most Bond fans ?, 2nd best, 3rd best ECT.

That goes for all fandom - if they percieve something to be not completely serious (Moore's Bond, Schumacher Batman movies, Hackman's Lex Luthor) they hate it, regardless of it's actual merits.

 

[The Englishman]

Roger Moores Bond was a dodgy Bastard! He tricks solatair into giving up her Viginity to him and he virtually Sexually assaults Octopussy!!!

 

[Two-Face]

I like Roger Moore and his Bond was good in LALD and FYEO but Moore's Bond too light or campy in some Bond films but I hated other Bonds in OHMSS and LTK. Brosnan, Connery and Craig hold best 007.

 

[Batman*]

That goes for all fandom - if they percieve something to be not completely serious (Moore's Bond, Schumacher Batman movies, Hackman's Lex Luthor) they hate it, regardless of it's actual merits

Come on, you can't blame us for hating these, at least not "Batman And Robin". Hackman's Luthor on the other hand was great.

Roger Moores Bond was a dodgy Bastard! He tricks solatair into giving up her Viginity to him and he virtually Sexually assaults Octopussy!!!

See, Moore's Bond wasn't all Mr Nice Guy.

 

[odiin]

For the most part I find Roger Moore's movies very boring. It's not even necesarrily because of his light, campy potrayal of Bond, but also the fact that there is little to no action in his movies, and even when there is most of the time you only see his back because it's really a stunt double.

But to be honestly, I don't so much dislike him so much as I like all the other Bond's MORE (no pun intended) I thought he was great in his own way it's just his "own way" doesn't suit my tastes much.

I do have to give him props for one of my single favourite moments in a Bond film. In For Your Eyes Only when the little ice skater girl is in his room and wants him to have sex with her, and he just has this priceless look on his face and says:

"Put your clothes back on, and I'll buy you an ice-cream."

That simply would not have worked with anyone but the 50+ year old Roger Moore.

EDIT: Oh yeah, another problem is that Moore just stayed for too damn long. It got to the point where he was pretty much just beating on a dead horse.

 

[DACrowe]

Roger Moore had a few good ones (The Spy Who Loved Me, For Your Eyes Only and Live and Let Die was enjoyable) and some really bad ones (everything else).

But as a performance, I rather enjoyed his James Bond. But fans (the geeky kind anyway) have a tendency to usually hate anything old in favor of something new (for example look how a year ago people said Brosnan couldn't be replaced and now they are saying Craig would kick his metrosexual ass) or dislike anything that is a take with a sense of humor (look at some of the disdain for Raimi's Spider-Man movies, ROTJ or Moore).

For the record I liked Moore quite a bit. I liked Connery and Brosnan better and tend to think Craig will be better, but who knows maybe if Craig has some really bad movies (and let's face it, outside of Lazenby, none of them got out without some stinkers following them), fans will turn on him too.

Also, keep in mind that fans don't make up the majority. Like until I came to these boards with diehard Bond fans, I'd never known a single person to like Dalton as Bond. ****, I still don't. Yet without having a really good movie under his belt, he is a fan favorite. Go figure.

 

[odiin]

Also, keep in mind that fans don't make up the majority. Like until I came to these boards with diehard Bond fans, I'd never known a single person to like Dalton as Bond. ****, I still don't. Yet without having a really good movie under his belt, he is a fan favorite. Go figure.

Coincidentally, Licence to Kill is in my top 3 favourite Bond movies of all time.

Not terribly big on The Living Daylights, however.

 

[DACrowe]

Wow, different tastes, I guess. I don't think either of his films would crack my top 10 (maybe TLD, but I honestly loathed LTK).

Agree to disagree then.

 

[Catman]

For the most part I find Roger Moore's movies very boring. It's not even necesarrily because of his light, campy potrayal of Bond, but also the fact that there is little to no action in his movies.

What are you talking about? If anything...the action scenes in Moore films can live up to today's standard. Just watch The Spy Who Loved Me for example. I love the Sean Connery films, but I have to admit that some of the action is indeed dated. While Roger Moore's action scenes can still satisfy modern audiences.

 

[Agentsands77]

Like until I came to these boards with diehard Bond fans, I'd never known a single person to like Dalton as Bond.

I've met a solid number. They're a clear minority, but there is still a decent faction that respects and likes Timothy Dalton's 007. I think he deserves a lot more respect than he gets, but ultimately, I appreciate him more than I like him, if you get my drift.

On topic, Roger Moore is a great 007 and he gets plenty of respect from a great many Bond fans. I do think he was in the role for too long and many of his films are very same-y, but he was undoubtedly quite good. Sure, his fight scenes were mediocre and he didn't have a lot of sex appeal, but he was downright hysterical. I laugh with him rather than at him, and it works. He allowed Bond to survive beyond Connery, and for that alone he deserves praise.

I love the Sean Connery films, but I have to admit that some of the action is indeed dated. While Roger Moore's action scenes can still satisfy modern audiences.

Really? I think the Connery action holds up far better than Roger's.

 

[Catman]

I've met a solid number. They're a clear minority, but there is still a decent faction that respects and likes Timothy Dalton's 007. I think he deserves a lot more respect than he gets, but ultimately, I appreciate him more than I like him, if you get my drift.

Actually...Bond novel fans LOVE Dalton. He is considered the best among that group. It is the Bond movie fans and the general public who kinda dislike him.

He allowed Bond to survive beyond Connery, and for that alone he deserves praise.

That is true! Lazenby would have done more damage than good. Moore allowed the franchise to survive. It also helped that he was a big star (remember The Saint) prior to accepting the role. He brought his own fan-base into the franchise. And, that added to the films box office.

Really? I think the Connery action holds up far better than Roger's.

Really? Don't forget that Moore's last Bond film was in 1985. That was 21 years ago. Connery's last EON Bond film was in 1971. I'm not saying the action-scenes are bad! Don't get me wrong! All I'm saying is that they are old-fashioned. Moore's action scenes are more contemporary.

 

[DACrowe]

At least in the sense that they don't so obviously pull punches. I love Connery's first three films more than anything moore did, but whenever I show say FRWL or Goldfinger to new would-be fans they get bored or laugh at the action when the punches are obviously pulled or the Objob fight in Fort Knox. Also the gunplay is a little ridiculous compared to newer stuff.

With that said I wouldn't trade Goldfinger and FRWL for any other film in the series though.

 

[TheCaretaker]

I like Moore even though i am a fan of the novel type Bond, Dalton, etc. Moore was good for what the script gave him and i enjoy his Bond flicks as i do all the other Bond outings.

 

[livrule]

I cannot hate Roger ... he was MY Bond.

I was born in 1975 and by the time I was 6-7 a Bond movie was a HUGE event on TV here in the UK .... normally a Friday or Saturday night.

In some strange way he will always be THE Bond to me .................

BUT ..... View To A Kill was pushing it. The guy looks just too damn old to be a super spy!

 

[Catman]

At least in the sense that they don't so obviously pull punches. I love Connery's first three films more than anything moore did, but whenever I show say FRWL or Goldfinger to new would-be fans they get bored or laugh at the action when the punches are obviously pulled or the Objob fight in Fort Knox. Also the gunplay is a little ridiculous compared to newer stuff.

With that said I wouldn't trade Goldfinger and FRWL for any other film in the series though.

Agreed. Connery stuff are the best. But, it's very old-fashioned when it comes to action and fight scenes. Moore's films are more contemporary so it can be enjoyed by modern audiences. If you watch films like TSWLM, Moonraker, and Octopussy the visual effects are still pretty good. There's no CGI or anything but it's still very good special effects.