Do you consider Ang Lee's Hulk MCU canon?

[Loki882]

I don't really consider it canon, but I can see why some people do. There's not much in TIH that directly contradicts Ang Lee's film (except for the origin montage during the opening credits of course). Heck, at the end of Hulk, Banner ends up in South America (and he's in Brazil at the beginning of TIH). You could also say that Gen. Ross's borderline psychopathic obsession with capturing Banner was at least in part the result of what happen in the Ang Lee film (William Hurt Ross did say that they'd been trying to capture Banner for years). It is rather easy to just look at TIH as a loose sequel to Ang Lee's version, so some people do.

 

[Levsky]

I don't really consider it canon, but I can see why some people do. There's not much in TIH that directly contradicts Ang Lee's film (except for the origin montage during the opening credits of course). Heck, at the end of Hulk, Banner ends up in South America (and he's in Brazil at the beginning of TIH). You could also say that Gen. Ross's borderline psychopathic obsession with capturing Banner was at least in part the result of what happen in the Ang Lee film (William Hurt Ross did say that they'd been trying to capture Banner for years). It is rather easy to just look at TIH as a loose sequel to Ang Lee's version, so some people do.

Perhaps Marvel Studios wanted this movie to feel like it's a continuation of Ang Lee's flick by inserting some allusions for people who watched "Hulk" from 2003 as it was only 5 years difference between those two. At the same time, they didn't risk making a clear and obvious reference since they prefered it to feel like an independent movie for people who didn't know Hulk from his previous film. In other words, that was a simple compromise.

 

[Lord]

The setting was similar because TIH was a rework of a previous script for a Hulk 2 movie, but it's still a reboot because everything else contradicts the events of Ang Lee's film.

 

[Levsky]

I'm not sure if it contradicts those events or not because I watched Ang Lee's film years ago and I don't remember much of it (it's even better for me, lol).

 

[kedrell]

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[Human Torch]

Whereas if you want to be merciful, you can show them TIH. That way they'll be bored into a stupor and not even notice their own execution.

Yep,TIH is boring .He was staring at cave moss and having pointless trippy dream scenes throughout that one too,I guess.

 

[Dark Raven]

It can't be MCU canon because General Talbot died in Ang Lee's Hulk, and now he's showing up again (in the form of Adrian Pasdar). I think before they might've been sitting on the fence and trying to keep it ambiguous, but with Talbot, they're having to commit to a decision.

 

[CoherentChaos]

They could always throw it back into ambiguity by stating the Talbot "still has scars" from his last encounter with the Hulk.

If Nick Fury can survive the laundry list of bodily damage that we hear about in his secret bunker, then I think the military can save one of its generals from explosion related injury.

Not saying that it has to be handled this way, but it could.

 

[ss3walkman]

I liked Edward Nortons Bruce Banner....:-(

Same here! I thought he was perfect. Fit the look extremely well. I felt so bad for dude in the movie which is what you want from a portrayal of Banner. I always thought Bana looked to tough for the role. I watch now and think to myself "he was kickin butt in Troy". Norton looks like Banner from comics.

BTW I feel they could've played more into Banner being the reason they found Captain America from the deleted TIH scene. Even a mention in Avengers where Cap says "so your the guy who found me" and response something simple like "that was the other guy". That would have been awesome

 

[Lantern Venom]

The Ang Hulk and Bruce Banner both reminded me more of the ones we saw in the Avengers than their stated TIH counterparts. I think both Lee's Hulk and TIH are outstanding movies, but I couldn't help but think about the imagery from the 2003 movie when watching Avengers.

 

[Lord]

BTW I feel they could've played more into Banner being the reason they found Captain America from the deleted TIH scene. Even a mention in Avengers where Cap says "so your the guy who found me" and response something simple like "that was the other guy". That would have been awesome

I'm glad they didn't go tat angle, i realy disliked the idea, makes the world seem much smaller and with too many coincidences.

 

[Fudgie]

Nope. It's obvious TIH is the one that's canon.

 

[Loki882]

Avengers did reference the deleted scene from TIH where Banner tried to kill himself.

 

[CoherentChaos]

Plus how would anyone know that Hulk was responsible for Steve's frozen slab to float off into detection? For all anyone knows, global warming was responsible for releasing Steve from his frozen tomb.

I don't think anyone in the MCU would know in particular that Hulk had something to do with Steve's recovery. That shot was just a treat for us fans, and only us fans would reasonably have knowledge of it.

Unless they bring in Uatu and he feels obliged to tell the Avengers about it for whatever god damn reason. :P

 

[metaphysician]

I don't really consider it canon, but I can see why some people do. There's not much in TIH that directly contradicts Ang Lee's film (except for the origin montage during the opening credits of course).

Other than "every scene involving General Ross, no exceptions". The character is different in all ways save the name.

 

[Jedi_Atticus]

I watched Hulk last week, not as bad as when I first saw it 11 years ago. Not to sound like Scooby Doo but I consider ITH a requel.

 

[Spider-Fan]

TIH used certain aspects of the movie. Like Banner being Hulk already and he is in South America. Outside of that, Ang's Hulk is non-cannon.

 

[Hordakfan]

It's NOT a Marvel film. It's NOT a Marvel Studios film. It's NOT a MCU film.

IT. DOES. NOT. EX. IST.

Hulk is a licensed studio film from Universal while TIH is from Marvel Studios. 2 different studios and made from 2 different origins and different everything.

 

[Steelsheen]

i must be one of the rare few who actually liked Ang Lee's Hulk. true there are several continuity errors if one takes the Bana-Norton versions as part 1 and 2, but on a surface level, they do seem continuous.

the biggest issue i had with Norton's TIH is that it falls short on understanding rage and the psychological and emotional complexities for a character that fundamentally COULDNT trust himself AND trust ONLY himself. Lee's version hit that out of the ballpark.

its sad how Hulk "fanboys" didnt seem to get it. maybe the noisiest ones who trashed Lee's Hulk wasnt interested in the more cerebral approach to the story? that was the common observation i had when i was discussing with the "fanboys" during the time it was released in theaters

in any case, looking at Ruffalo's portrayal of Banner/Hulk, i cant find much commonality between his and Norton's-- despite that that is supposed to be canon . what i find most significant though is that it seems Ruffalo took the psychological aspects of Lee's Hulk story and merged it with the unique portrayal of his own. which begs the question-- if rumors are to be believed that Ruffalo was actually thisClose before the role went to Bana, if they got Ruffalo with Lee's Hulk story if maybe the Hulk franchise wouldnt be this dubious

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

i must be one of the rare few who actually liked Ang Lee's Hulk. true there are several continuity errors if one takes the Bana-Norton versions as part 1 and 2, but on a surface level, they do seem continuous.

the biggest issue i had with Norton's TIH is that it falls short on understanding rage and the psychological and emotional complexities for a character that fundamentally COULDNT trust himself AND trust ONLY himself. Lee's version hit that out of the ballpark.

its sad how Hulk "fanboys" didnt seem to get it. maybe the noisiest ones who trashed Lee's Hulk wasnt interested in the more cerebral approach to the story? that was the common observation i had when i was discussing with the "fanboys" during the time it was released in theaters

in any case, looking at Ruffalo's portrayal of Banner/Hulk, i cant find much commonality between his and Norton's-- despite that that is supposed to be canon . what i find most significant though is that it seems Ruffalo took the psychological aspects of Lee's Hulk story and merged it with the unique portrayal of his own. which begs the question-- if rumors are to be believed that Ruffalo was actually thisClose before the role went to Bana, if they got Ruffalo with Lee's Hulk story if maybe the Hulk franchise wouldnt be this dubious

There are. More than a rare few who like Ang Lee's Hulk, believe me, search for my thread 'I still love Ang Lee's Hulk' and you will see that. Yeah Ruffalo's Banner seems more like Bana than Norton, and TIH as a movie seems to be treated like the unwanted step child of the MCU these days.

 

[Flint Marko]

Who would vote "yes"? It's clearly a completely separate story. They might have borrowed elements here and there but it's clear as day right from the opening credits of TIH that it's a whole different continuity.

 

[Lilbaz]

I didn't mind Hulk. But it's not cannon as MCU will never reference anything from it.

 

[lordofthenerds]

I think the better question would be "Do you consider TIH to be MCU canon?".

 

[AndrewGilkison]

The Ang Lee movie wasn't made by Marvel Studios so no, it's not canon. The confusion comes from the fact that the story for TIH was originally going to be used for a sequel to Ang's Hulk movie. I think Zak Pen was gonna be the writer for that one too.

 

[Spiderine]

Hell nah.....

Anything not made by Marvel studios and certainly everything made before 2008 Iron Man is in a world by itself.