OutOfBoose
#ReleaseTheAyerCut
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Still the best CBM and most likely will remain so for many years to follow.
Personal preference is one thing, but judging something by your own standards of what a comic book movie is or should be is another. There are tons of different iterations of the character and the vast majority of his popular stories have little or nothing to do with superpowers, magic and aliens. It's like saying that the likes of Year One, The Killing Joke or the Long Halloween, possibly the most iconic Batman stories ever written, were originally created for people who don't like comic books, because they happen to be more grounded than what you specifically identify with. I can never understand people who argue that a medium, or an adaptation for that matter, should only be done one way.After the brilliant origin film Batman Begins the setting was perfect for Nolan to go nuts with the sequel and introduce superpowers, aliens, the Batfamily, magic and what have you. I like my comic book movies awfully comicbooky, so the fact that we got a solid crime drama with one amazing performance and light comic book theming was a big disappointment. TDK, a comic book movie for folks that don't like comic book movies, lauded by the masses as not only the greatest comic book movie ever made but the greatest that will ever be until the heat death of the universe is an ongoing irritation for me.
Personal preference is one thing, but judging something by your own standards of what a comic book movie is or should be is another. There are tons of different iterations of the character and the vast majority of his popular stories have little or nothing to do with superpowers, magic and aliens. It's like saying that the likes of Year One, The Killing Joke or the Long Halloween, possibly the most iconic Batman stories ever written, were originally created for people who don't like comic books, because they happen to be more grounded than what you specifically identify with. I can never understand people who argue that a medium, or an adaptation for that matter, should only be done one way.
The Dark Knight is at the superhero pedestal exactly because it resonates both with people who love comic books and with people who don't. It takes all the basic elements that make the character so great by also making him accessible to those who wouldn't give a damn.
I believe I have been quite clear that while TDK does what it does quite well it's not for me.
No it wasn't clear at all when you said stuff that clearly showed a specific predetermined opinion of what comics are in general. The idea that The Dark Knight only appealed to people who have no connection to comic books makes no sense. I mean this is a forum about superheroes, everyone here likes the genre one way or the other, and the movie still crushes every single poll created to pitch something against it. That was mostly the argument I was referring to.After the brilliant origin film Batman Begins the setting was perfect for Nolan to go nuts with the sequel and introduce superpowers, aliens, the Batfamily, magic and what have you. I like my comic book movies awfully comicbooky, so the fact that we got a solid crime drama with one amazing performance and light comic book theming was a big disappointment. TDK, a comic book movie for folks that don't like comic book movies, lauded by the masses as not only the greatest comic book movie ever made but the greatest that will ever be until the heat death of the universe is an ongoing irritation for me.
Christopher Nolan announced early on that his plans were to make Batman more grounded in reality for his movies, so he chose not to use the Lazarus Pit for Ra's AlGhul.After the brilliant origin film Batman Begins the setting was perfect for Nolan to go nuts with the sequel and introduce superpowers, aliens, the Batfamily, magic and what have you. I like my comic book movies awfully comicbooky, so the fact that we got a solid crime drama with one amazing performance and light comic book theming was a big disappointment. TDK, a comic book movie for folks that don't like comic book movies, lauded by the masses as not only the greatest comic book movie ever made but the greatest that will ever be until the heat death of the universe is an ongoing irritation for me.
Christopher Nolan announced early on that his plans were to make Batman more grounded in reality for his movies, so he chose not to use the Lazarus Pit for Ra's AlGhul.
Even with that in mind, his movies took comic book moments and characterization to heart with some altercations that don't shy away from the source material and are recognizable to comic readers.
The other stuff are pretty hard to ground, unless they do the magician stuff like in 2009's Iron.. Sherlock Holmes with the evil warlock of that story.I do find it odd that Nolan was committed to grounding his bat themed billionaire vigilante, but not his adventurers in time, space or the mind. Or old timey magicians.
Personal preference is one thing, but judging something by your own standards of what a comic book movie is or should be is another.
This tends to happen when something is SO GOOD that a certain group of people get almost jealous in a way. It's a testament to it's legacy.It's a fantastic film, the only film I've seen more than twice in a theater. I think it's become a bit of a punching bag for contrarians but what can you do? I grew up on Blade Runner so the shift in audience attitude isn't really surprising.