Do you think DC's approach is a mess compared to Marvel?

[Super_Ludacris]

Marvel is a ****e who will put anything even if its junk (everything post 2003 besides SM 2)

DC is a prude with bad descion-making (rushing whack and overhyped flicks besides BB)

 

[Steve Rogers]

DC is a prude with bad descion-making (rushing whack and overhyped flicks besides BB)

I don't understand posts like this. People love to say things like "DC sucks! Except for Batman Begins." So that leaves Superman Returns. You're basing your decision to call Marvel a ****e based on all the movies put it out since 2003 and yet you base your decision to call DC a prude on one movie. I don't get it.

Why don't we just say that since DC has only put out two movies in the last 10 years while Marvel has put out fifteen or so that a comparison between the two is almost impossible.

 

[Super_Ludacris]

I don't understand posts like this. People love to say things like "DC sucks! Except for Batman Begins." So that leaves Superman Returns. You're basing your decision to call Marvel a ****e based on all the movies put it out since 2003 and yet you base your decision to call DC a prude on one movie. I don't get it.

Why don't we just say that since DC has only put out two movies in the last 10 years while Marvel has put out fifteen or so that a comparison between the two is almost impossible.

Yeah and?....


Catwoman was crap. Steel was crap, Batman Forever was crap, Batman and Robin was crap, Supergirl was crap.. Meanwhile WW, Flash, Arrow and other films are on the shelf collecting dust.

Marvel just plain sucks overall. Blade 3 sucked, Daredevil sucked, Hulk sucked, X-Men 3 sucked, Ghost Rider sucked, Fantastic Four sucked (while gently teething), Rise of the Silver Surfer sucked, Elektra sucked....

Its an easy way to settle it.

 

[Darknightnomis]

Marvel churns out ther movies like some fast food resturaunt.

And the feeling I get afterwards is about the same...I just knew deep down I shouldn't went there in the first place.

Outside of Spidey one and two most of there movies been crap.

And 't give me that X-Men movies were good, becasue they wasn't.

But DC does seem a little on the D-Train by quickly sholving JLA in our faces so quickly and not having soo moives for some of there big gun characters namely Wonder woman.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Marvel by far. Rushing Justice League out the way DC is smacks of desperation, imo....

It is totally desperate. Make no mistake WB didn't like SR's boxoffice numbers and the making of a JL movie just proves it. I've been saying it all along.

 

[Docker2.0]

I think Marvel is is leading the way by far. People say they are throwing out movies left and right but they have to in order to make money. Also, their characters are REALLY diverse so they can make it work. And for people who constantly use the "Marvel movies have been junk" argument, Marvel's movies have made over $100million in 11 of 16 films. That's a good track record! DC is rushing this JLA movie and it really seems off! Other than BB, Constatine, V for Vendatta, and Superman Returns, DC really hasn't been putting out good CB movies. 300 was more of a novel more than anything. And if you look at the last 10 years, DC has had just as many bombs that Marvel has had. So anyone who's saying that WB is doign the right thing with their properties is only fooling themselves. And it all boils down to(once again) fanboyism and who you like most.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

^ I agree, they both are involved in s**tty movies.

 

[Steve Rogers]

Yeah and?....


Catwoman was crap. Steel was crap, Batman Forever was crap, Batman and Robin was crap, Supergirl was crap.. Meanwhile WW, Flash, Arrow and other films are on the shelf collecting dust.

Marvel just plain sucks overall. Blade 3 sucked, Daredevil sucked, Hulk sucked, X-Men 3 sucked, Ghost Rider sucked, Fantastic Four sucked (while gently teething), Rise of the Silver Surfer sucked, Elektra sucked....

Its an easy way to settle it.

So are you counting all the DC films? Not just the recent ones (even though you are only counting recent Marvel films) But then, if so, actually count all the DC films. Not just the ones you think are crap. Same with Marvel. Don't only count the ones that you think are crap.

I interpret your post like this. "I dislike these movies by DC....and I dislike these moves by Marvel....this proves that everything sucks."

*shrugs*

 

[Super_Ludacris]

So are you counting all the DC films? Not just the recent ones (even though you are only counting recent Marvel films) But then, if so, actually count all the DC films. Not just the ones you think are crap. Same with Marvel. Don't only count the ones that you think are crap.

I interpret your post like this. "I dislike these movies by DC....and I dislike these moves by Marvel....this proves that everything sucks."

*shrugs*

Well its like I said in my original post, DC rarely makes any movies but when they do they go with some dumb ass desicions (Catwoman, Supergirl, Steel, this JLA flick). Outside of Burton's first 2 flicks, Begins and the first two Superman joints, there's hardly anything to write home about

and with Marvel I said post 2003 has mostly made for some major suckage. Which it has, so that is my point. But I mean damn if you wanna count the 80's/90's Captain America, Fantastic Four and Nick Fury films and as well as the classic Nicholas Hammond Made for TV Spiderman movie we can count those masterpieces as well.

I made it simple as hell

 

[Steve Rogers]

Well its like I said in my original post, DC rarely makes any movies but when they do they go with some dumb ass desicions (Catwoman, Supergirl, Steel, this JLA flick). Outside of Burton's first 2 flicks, Begins and the first two Superman joints, there's hardly anything to write home about

and with Marvel I said post 2003 has mostly made for some major suckage. Which it has, so that is my point. But I mean damn if you wanna count the 80's/90's Captain America, Fantastic Four and Nick Fury films and as well as the classic Nicholas Hammond Made for TV Spiderman movie we can count those masterpieces as well.

I made it simple as hell

Whatever. You're just counting movies that back up your point rather than counting the movies as a whole. That's my point. Besides, how can you have such a negative opinion on this JLA movie that hasn't even happened yet?

 

[NateGray]

You're on crack buddy.Thor has been around long before comics were created.If comic fans aren't watching this,I fully expect college professors,mythology buffs,fantasy fans and the like to drop a couple dollars to see the God of Thunder on the big screen.

I can agree with you on the Ant Man thing though.

Umm based on the plot they are going to use I do not expect Thor is going to do very well at all.
Also WTH are you smoking thinking college professors etc etc etc are going to waste money on a Thor movie based in Asgard?
Just not feeling he Thor movie unless they get a different script.

 

[NateGray]

Wow,really?I always considered a-listers to be the ones who can pick and choose scripts tossed at them.Norton and RDJ are certainly in that group of actors.

Nope A list is specific to how much money they make per film.
RDJ and Norton are no where near A list as they do not command 20 Mil per movie heck they are barely B rate with the 5 or so mil they command per movie.
Just the way Hollywood works

 

[Damiean Dark]

Why not say Downey and Norton are A- list actors instead while the likes of Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise and george Clooney are A+ actors?

 

[NateGray]

First off all, no. A listers are the ones who do the negotiating. The ones who almost all the producers would know. The ones who can demand rewrites. The ones the directors fight over. It has nothing to do with the general public. And Downey's been an A lister for 20 years.

Nada while he has been close see my other post A list is directly related to how much money you command per film.
And he has never been A list neither has Norton.
What you are talking about is not A list actors but rather well respected actors actresses and yes they both are very well respected.

 

[Damiean Dark]

And on DC vs Marvels approach im happy that Marvel at least tried to make movies bad as some of them are WB just doesnt have faith in DC characters making money to risk it.

 

[Super_Ludacris]

Whatever. You're just counting movies that back up your point rather than counting the movies as a whole. That's my point. Besides, how can you have such a negative opinion on this JLA movie that hasn't even happened yet?

I used the movies they explify my point, most Marvel movies post 2003 have been awful, besides Spider-man 2 have been awful correct? Name me one you liked? Show me a good movie post 03? Iron-Man might be bring but most of the movies have been terrible or terrible dissapointments.I really make it anymore simple as that.

And I think that JLA will be bad cause it sounds rushed (just four months of principle photography for a movie this big?)

Unless your a kid I cant make it anymore simplier dude.

 

[NateGray]

Why not say Downey and Norton are A- list actors instead while the likes of Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise and george Clooney are A+ actors?

Actually its Hollywood who determines who is A list or not and it determines what restaurants they get into etc etc etc and again it is all based on how much they command per film.
Its a whole ranking system feel free to look it up I am sure its probably on wikki

 

[Steve Rogers]

I used the movies they explify my point, most Marvel movies post 2003 have been awful, besides Spider-man 2 have been awful correct? Name me one you liked? Show me a good movie post 03? Iron-Man might be bring but most of the movies have been terrible or terrible dissapointments.I really make it anymore simple as that.

And I think that JLA will be bad cause it sounds rushed (just four months of principle photography for a movie this big?)

Unless your a kid I cant make it anymore simplier dude.

Unless you're a kid, you can't spell. I liked Daredevil, Hulk and Fantastic Four. There's three I liked. Show a good movie post 2003? Why is it up to me? Go watch more movies and broaden your horizon.

I don't even remember what we are talking about anymore, so who cares. I'm done.

 

[Super_Ludacris]

Unless you're a kid, you can't spell. I liked Daredevil, Hulk and Fantastic Four. There's three I liked. Show a good movie post 2003? Why is it up to me? Go watch more movies and broaden your horizon.

I don't even remember what we are talking about anymore, so who cares. I'm done.

Well congrats on catching me out for the poor grammar (because clearly accurate spelling on a superhero message boards makes or breaks in the game of life), but I'll give you the cake for forgetting what we are talking about despite the origin of this discussion being on the same page of this thread...
Anyway for the record the movies you named are considered terrible and one of the reasons why people question Marvel's output quality (But its like I said, with the formation of Marvel Studios lets see how they do taking matters back in there own hands). Cant hate me co-sigining mass sentiments now can we? I've seen plenty of movies to judge the quality of whats good or bad so your preaching to the choir there.
Anyway it sounds like your Marvel fan a little upset that I call the movies crap, its ok breathe little man, you'll be ok. Dont be mad at the next man's opinion...

 

[Steve Rogers]

Anyway it sounds like your Marvel fan a little upset that I call the movies crap, its ok breathe little man, you'll be ok.

I don't know what the hell you're trying to say here. I guess you were right. Proper grammar on a message board makes or breaks the game of life.

 

[Vaportrail]

DC, as far as I'm concerned, hasn't done diddly.

Catwoman sucked about as hard as a movie can. Batman's doing fine, but he's been doing fine for years. Having Batman and Superman movies, while cool, isn't anything surprisingly new for them. JLA is a step in the right direction, but I can't believe they changed their stance on the Ryan Reynolds Flash film. That guy wanted to do something really unique it sounded like, but of course they didn't want to go that route.

This is why I like Marvel. They do stuff, and they do it well. DC's lagging, I doubt if they'll even catch up.

DC talks the talk. Marvel walks the walk.

-Vaportrail

 

[Super_Ludacris]

I don't know what the hell you're trying to say here. I guess you were right. Proper grammar on a message board makes or breaks the game of life.

Nice way back out of your own argument lol

You: What is your problem with DC and Marvel movies
* I explain*
You: Whatever Man

LOL!

 

[Docker2.0]

Actually Luda, me and you are cool and all, but he has a point. The movies that you named, even though you say they sux, they have done well at the Box office. And honestly as far as fans opinions of the movie, they can go either way. Some love the movies(like me), some hate it(like you) and some just stand flight in the middle and think it's an ok, popcorn flick. I know your opinion won't change, but I think that's what he's basically saying. It's all a matter of opinion.

 

[ClarkLuther55]

My opinion is that BOTH of their approaches are crap.

As others have said, Marvel turns out mediocre and crappy movies like they're fast food. The first two X-Men movies, and the first two Spidey movies are the only ones that are widely respected.

DC, meanwhile can't seem to get off its ass and make ONE movie that's not about Superman or Batman. Hell, after Superman Returns, they're afraid to even make another movie about Superman. SUPERMAN. The guy whose symbol is literally more recognized than any other symbol that's not the Christian Cross.

What pisses me off the most is that the companies seem to take turns sucking ass:

Time line of suck:

-In the mid to late 90s, the once successful Batman franchise was ruined by Schumacher's campy crap and a nippled costume.

-Marvel makes a relatively low-key, but extremely badass movie about Blade. Hey, comic books in general would make great summer movies! Early 90s favorite X-Men (very popular to an entire generation due to the cartoon), is next to get the big screen treatment. Then Marvel's flagship character, Spider-Man, blows everyone away.

-Halle stars in CINO. That was DC's "answer" to Marvel's big screen success? So pathetic. Marvel cleans house with Spider-Man 2. Marvel rules, DC sucks!

-But before that, Marvel made an Inflatable Hulk movie, where everyone talked too much and the hero fought Absorbing Dad. Later, Elektra bombed and Blade Trinity ruined a once successful series. The Fantastic Four were then handed over to a comedy director with NO vision for superhero action epics, and what we got was a lame big screen SITCOM. Doom, one of the greatest villains in comics, was utterly ruined.

-But hey, Batman Begins came out, and it rocked! And Superman is getting a movie, directed by that genius Bryan Singer! WB really pulled off a coup by taking him away from the X-Men franchise! Marvel's sucking now, but DC's heading up!

-Damn, Singer didn't have to make Superman Returns a weird semi-sequel to the decades-dead original movie series! And Super-son was so lame! To be honest I thought SR was an overall good movie, nothing nearly as bad as Marvel's flops. But I seriously disagreed with the BACKWARDS direction SR took the character in. Singer failed to bring Superman alive to a whole new generation, instead squandering the movie's potential so that he could worship the Donner movies more.

-The 3rd X-Men and Spider-Man movies sucked! Everything sucks!

-The WB, understandably disappointed in SR's lackluster financial performance, starts apparently overcompensating by trying to rush a brainless JLA movie out the door before a Hollywood strike. Without trying to get back some of the same actors, or making more (necessary) solo movies first.

-But hey, the Iron Man movie has a great cast and is looking pretty good. There may be some hope yet...how long before Marvel cycles back to sucking again?

 

[Arkady Rossovich]

DC does films better.

DC:Wait,do movies slow..make good ones like Batman Begins.But too slow,and they become bad like Superman Returns.

Marvel:Fast,churn out movies like nothing..all films except Spider-Man are horrible.