Superman Returns Do you want a sequel, or start over from scratch?

[NateGray]

Well i heard the toys were selling very well, so someone is lying.

dude enough already the movie is in the RED until DVD sales and as mentioned it will need between 100-200 mil depending on the real budget to show a profit what about this are you NOT getting.

 

[KaptainKrypton]

Here is where you run into a wall. What exactly do you know about the cost spread over sequels, tax rebates from filming in Australia (which are apparently amazing enough to justify flying all the way over there to shoot), food endorsement deals, fast food tie-ins, book sales (including comics, coloring books, junior books, novel adaption), toy sales, DVD profit margins, television and premium channel rights, and the exact percentage that Legendary and Warner each clear from all of these ventures...not to mention they're final take when all is said and done?

Nice to quote me and address none of what I posted about????

Okay. Fine.

"How exactly does 370 million give or take, equal a profit on a 206-260 million dollar movie + marketing of anywhere from 50-100 million equal a profit????"

It's at $377 million as of this writing and DVD sales haven't even been accounted for. You don't even have an exact figure on the budget and marketing so you're shooting me a broad stroke and thinking it'll logically stick? The budget has been touted as low as $185 and as high as $260 (which most likely resulted from inclusion of false starts). This is why I claim I don't know...because I don't (neither do you obviously). Even by the worst-case scenario you touted of $260 million plus $100 million to market...it's $360 MILLION total.

One does not have to work at WB or TW to know if a movie makes a profit or not its not rocket science and its well documented and easily accessable from the internet.

Okay, armchair economist, show me the official sheets with the exact figures and I'll gladly concede. Try not to use Variety or any of the movie reporting websites, but a place that actually has the monetary breakdown. Maybe you could e-mail WB? I'm sure they'd love to discuss this with you. Look, I can find a recipe to build a homemade bomb from the internet...that doesn't make me MacGyver.

As for beating a movie that cost roughly 100 mil less to produe and advertise, Well that is not something to brag about just FYI.

"Roughly" 100 million less to produce, eh? Shooting out those precise guesstimates again, Nate? Come on. Stop formulating doomsday arguments when you're coming at me with no concrete evidence.

 

[NateGray]

Here is where you run into a wall. What exactly do you know about the cost spread over sequels, tax rebates from filming in Australia (which are apparently amazing enough to justify flying all the way over there to shoot), food endorsement deals, fast food tie-ins, book sales (including comics, coloring books, junior books, novel adaption), toy sales, DVD profit margins, television and premium channel rights, and the exact percentage that Legendary and Warner each clear from all of these ventures...not to mention they're final take when all is said and done?

Okay. Fine.

"How exactly does 370 million give or take, equal a profit on a 206-260 million dollar movie + marketing of anywhere from 50-100 million equal a profit????"

It's at $377 million as of this writing and DVD sales haven't even been accounted for. You don't even have an exact figure on the budget and marketing so you're shooting me a broad stroke and thinking it'll logically stick? The budget has been touted as low as $185 and as high as $260 (which most likely resulted from inclusion of false starts). This is why I claim I don't know...because I don't (neither do you obviously). Even by the worst-case scenario you touted of $260 million plus $100 million to market...it's $360 MILLION total.

Okay, armchair economist, show me the official sheets with the exact figures and I'll gladly concede. Try not to use Variety or any of the movie reporting websites, but a place that actually has the monetary breakdown. Maybe you could e-mail WB? I'm sure they'd love to discuss this with you. Look, I can find a recipe to build a homemade bomb from the internet...that doesn't make me MacGyver.

"Roughly" 100 million less to produce, eh? Shooting out those precise guesstimates again, Nate? Come on. Stop formulating doomsday arguments when you're coming at me with no concrete evidence.

LMAO

Do you post anything but Tripe????
Again when did I claim to be an encomist smartass oh wait NEVER dip****.
when did I mention the exact budget for SR or BB oh wait I didn't I only made rough estimates based on internet sources choosing the middle ground for both movies smartass.

Simple facts seem to elude you though in your attempt to somehow say SR is showing a profit when you could easily check the FACTS for yourself.

Notice I allowed for the middle budget shown and the middle advertising shown and it is still in the RED even showing only 260 mil for a total cost it will NEED 500 + mil to show a profit.
Only a moron would argue these simple FACTS smartass and I am done with you since you refuse to accept FACTS SR is in the RED FACT argue it till you are blue in the Fing face it is not changing the FACT SR IS IN THE RED GET IT.
And as stated it will need between 100-200 mil in DVD sales depending on the real budget to show a profit.

 

[Venom71]

LMAO

Do you post anything but Tripe????
Again when did I claim to be an encomist smartass oh wait NEVER dip****.
when did I mention the exact budget for SR or BB oh wait I didn't I only made rough estimates based on internet sources choosing the middle ground for both movies smartass.

Simple facts seem to elude you though in your attempt to somehow say SR is showing a profit when you could easily check the FACTS for yourself.

Notice I allowed for the middle budget shown and the middle advertising shown and it is still in the RED even showing only 260 mil for a total cost it will NEED 500 + mil to show a profit.
Only a moron would argue these simple FACTS smartass and I am done with you since you refuse to accept FACTS SR is in the RED FACT argue it till you are blue in the Fing face it is not changing the FACT SR IS IN THE RED GET IT.
And as stated it will need between 100-200 mil in DVD sales depending on the real budget to show a profit.

Hmm when you call KK names like that 3 times in the same post leads me to believe you know he is right and don't want to admit it so you resort to the name calling....not too sad.

 

[casketmouth]

Hmm when you call KK names like that 3 times in the same post leads me to believe you know he is right and don't want to admit it so you resort to the name calling....not too sad.

or maybe he's irritated at the ignorance level of his rival. Ignorance can piss anyone off weather right or wrong

 

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Only a moron would argue these simple FACTS smartass and I am done with you since you refuse to accept FACTS

You are having delusions of grandeur

 

[Venom71]

or maybe he's irritated at the ignorance level of his rival. Ignorance can piss anyone off weather right or wrong

I'm guessing not but either way..no need for the name calling IMO.

 

[\S/JcDc\S/]

or maybe he's irritated at the ignorance level of his rival. Ignorance can piss anyone off weather right or wrong

Accept that his rival's post was written better and sounded more logical. OF course that may have something to do with not using words like moron or dip**** in his post

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I can tell that this thread will be closed fairly soon.

 

[NateGray]

Accept that his rival's post was written better and sounded more logical. OF course that may have something to do with not using words like moron or dip**** in his post

Yeh ******** because this part of his post was not meant to insult me at all right....


KK Quote
Okay, armchair economist, show me the official sheets with the exact figures and I'll gladly concede. Try not to use Variety or any of the movie reporting websites, but a place that actually has the monetary breakdown. Maybe you could e-mail WB? I'm sure they'd love to discuss this with you. Look, I can find a recipe to build a homemade bomb from the internet...that doesn't make me MacGyver

 

[NateGray]

I'm guessing not but either way..no need for the name calling IMO.

Good thing you don't gamble because that was part of it that and him insulting me first ********

 

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Yeh ******** because this part of his post was not meant to insult me at all right....


KK Quote
Okay, armchair economist, show me the official sheets with the exact figures and I'll gladly concede. Try not to use Variety or any of the movie reporting websites, but a place that actually has the monetary breakdown. Maybe you could e-mail WB? I'm sure they'd love to discuss this with you. Look, I can find a recipe to build a homemade bomb from the internet...that doesn't make me MacGyver

It may be sarcastic but I don't see him throwing out names like an 8 year old. YOU did however Seems you are calling others names as well. Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?

 

[NateGray]

You are having delusions of grandeur

no more so than you are....

 

[Venom71]

Good thing you don't gamble because that was part of it that and him insulting me first ********

I find it hard to take your post seriously when you keep calling people names and using the bad language.

 

[NateGray]

It may be sarcastic but I don't see him throwing out names like an 8 year old. YOU did however

Wait wait let me check if I care what you think yep sure don't....


So right back at ya spanky

 

[\S/JcDc\S/]

no more so than you are....

When I claim everything I say is a fact and that if you don't agree you are a moron, you can tell me that...

 

[NateGray]

I find it hard to take your post seriously when you keep calling people names and using the bad language.

Hmmm see other post my care for you about my posts hmm newp not all all and feel free to ignore me kktnx.

 

[NateGray]

When I claim everything I say is a fact and that if you don't agree you are a moron, you can tell me that...

When you post a fact we shall see the FACTS I stated are pretty easy to research and if you were not sooo busy defending your buddy you can look them up.
As I said its not rocket science to see if a movie has made a profit.

 

[\S/JcDc\S/]

I find it hard to take your post seriously when you keep calling people names and using the bad language.

Exactly. Even if he had something of merit to say, it's lost in his putrid use of name calling. It's all in the presentation, I mean... You can have a beautiful serving dish but if all you serve on it is crap... Nobody is going to eat.

 

[NateGray]

Exactly. Even if he had something of merit to say, it's lost in his putrid use of name calling. It's all in the presentation, I mean... You can have a beautiful serving dish but if all you serve on it is crap... Nobody is going to eat.

You know if my posts bother you feel free to ignore me kktnx.

 

[\S/JcDc\S/]

When you post a fact we shall see the FACTS I stated are pretty easy to research and if you were not sooo busy defending your buddy you can look them up.
As I said its not rocket science to see if a movie has made a profit.

I'm not even referring to your little BO argument with your sweetheart. I'm referring to your incoherent ramblings filled with name calling. Now I'm going to the bank right now so can't continue talking. Will you be ok left alone on the computer little one? Later

 

[Venom71]

Hmmm see other post my care for you about my posts hmm newp not all all and feel free to ignore me kktnx.

Is that English?

 

[NateGray]

I'm not even referring to your little BO argument with your sweetheart. I'm referring to your incoherent ramblings filled with name calling. Now I'm going to the bank right now so can't continue talking. Will you be ok left alone on the computer little one? Later

First I am not your sweetheart dip**** and your insult is not unoticed and returned....
Second see previous post about ignoring my posts which you seem UNABLE to do since they bother you sooo much.

What about my argument was BO the fact you ****** refuse to actually look it up yourselves because it would take all of what 5 minutes....

 

[NateGray]

Is that English?

Wow you really are a loser to continue to respond to posts you consider not worthy of your loserness when you could just use the ignore feature SSH readily provides you with.

 

[Venom71]

Wow you really are a loser to continue to respond to posts you consider not worthy of your loserness when you could just use the ignore feature SSH readily provides you with.

Loser? Me? Nah.... As for the ignore button...no fun using that..you might miss the most spectacular post ever posted on the SHH boards if you put someone on ignore..not saying you would be the one to post that post but you never know..it could happen.