Do you want the Marvel Universe to go through a Total Reboot in the next 10 years??

[boywonder13]

Liek the DC universe did in 1986. Do you?

 

[Harlekin]

The DC universe didn't go through a total reboot after CoiE. It was one large retcon, but a reboot would mean they started over, and they didn't. Marvel could use some work in that department though, and really retcon and clarify some stuff.

 

[Mister J]

Nah. Just Spidey.

 

[Super Mark]

It's a good question.

My first reaction is, "No way. Everytime these companies try a redo, they frak things up even worse."

Then I think, "If they could make stuff better, that is, get back to what we thought of as the good old days, then yes, go for it."

But overall, my answer is no, no total re-do.

(I mean, look what happens when they try minor retcons. Most suck.)

Super Mark

 

[boywonder13]

Yah, well you know what I meant.

I wouldnt mind startting at the begging with Mutants being new, four imaginauts sent into space, young sciene nerd gets spider like powers.....

 

[Zenien]

Hasn't that already been covered recently with the very purpose of the Ultimate universe.

 

[boywonder13]

yah, but the Ultimate Universe is a ******ed idea because people will so become alienated no matter what, if they pick it up at issue 110 or somthing, even 616 spidey fans.

I'm not talking about radically altering evrythng like in the Ultimate Universe just makiing everything that has happened since the 60s and before than never happened.

the 616 verse (the main marvel u) will keep on alienating people if they just dont restart it.

They could fix this by minor retcons, but the time has changed for a retcon/reboot/revamp.

One of Epic Proportions!

 

[Whirlysplat]

Liek the DC universe did in 1986. Do you?

DC didn't but should have and so should Marvel. I've only been reading Marvel about 35 years and sometimes the continuity confuses the hell out of me.

- Whirly

 

[Zenien]

yah, but the Ultimate Universe is a ******ed idea because people will so become alienated no matter what, if they pick it up at issue 110 or somthing, even 616 spidey fans.

I'm not talking about radically altering evrythng like in the Ultimate Universe just makiing everything that has happened since the 60s and before than never happened.

the 616 verse (the main marvel u) will keep on alienating people if they just dont restart it.

They could fix this by minor retcons, but the time has changed for a retcon/reboot/revamp.

One of Epic Proportions!

I'm not sure if I agree with you. It's not like Marvel comics focus on thier history nearly as much as DC does, so in that regard it is easier to jump on to a Marvel book then a DC book, and I don't think that destroying the entire history of the core Marvel Universe would enamor anyone in perticular, it would alienate more people then it brought back.

If focusing on the history is what alienates readers as you're argueing then it's DC that should get a reboot, not Marvel. Maevel is very casual about such things to the point of annoyance in some people's eyes.

Personally the universe is more interesting and cohesive now then it has ever been for me since I started reading (early nineties). Even if I don't agree with certain desitions, the universe as a whole is now taking strides to be much more cohesive and aware of itself, much like DC does, and all it took was smart editing and attention to what's happening in other books, not a revamp retelling all the stories again that we already know about.

 

[MyPokerShirt]

DC NEEDED it. they had seperated their major timelines and characters into seperate universes. marvel doesnt have that problem. my answer isnt "no..." its NO. this isnt a tradition thing, this is wanting some depth to my characters. no rebooting - they tried this with john byrne's spider-man: chapter one and screwed it up. no more screw ups, just let things be. the only reason there's any complaint about spider-man is because of bad change. lets not have too much drastic change cos some is gona be bad... trust me.


some of your logic is REALLY screwed up. still look at DC universe, its still complicated. if you want uncomplicated stuff go read Marvel Adventures... or watch a Ren and Stimpy cartoon (whatever happened to them??) Rebooting the DC universe has streamlined everything, made it easier and less complicated -- doesnt mean there's NO complications. most of you are confused about continuity cos, quite frankly, you just don't care enough. i mean, jesus, just read a couple of wikipedia sites. i dont read what i dont care about -- i dont know where to start on the avengers but i know my spider-man. if you were a fan of marvel characters surely you wouldnt be asking for reboots -- cos you'd realise it'd be erasing what made that character who they are. nuff sed.

 

[Whirlysplat]

I'm not sure if I agree with you. It's not like Marvel comics focus on thier history nearly as much as DC does, so in that regard it is easier to jump on to a Marvel book then a DC book, and I don't think that destroying the entire history of the core Marvel Universe would enamor anyone in perticular, it would alienate more people then it brought back.

If focusing on the history is what alienates readers as you're argueing then it's DC that should get a reboot, not Marvel. Maevel is very casual about such things to the point of annoyance in some people's eyes.

Personally the universe is more interesting and cohesive now then it has ever been for me since I started reading (early nineties). Even if I don't agree with certain desitions, the universe as a whole is now taking strides to be much more cohesive and aware of itself, much like DC does.

The reason Marvel doesn't dwell on continuity is quite simple, it has become so confused it can't. In the seventies and eighties it was footnotetastic.

- Whirly

 

[MyPokerShirt]

no, its because of the internet. they think they dont have to put footnotes with sites like this, wikipedia and marvel.com around. they say it all the time... and i know plenty of people that understand the marvel universe just fine. i dont read/ take an interest in it all but what i do, i understand.

 

[Harlekin]

It's because the editors just don't care anymore. This is glaringly obvious in the Marvel work. They're entire job is about editing the work for glaring mistakes, also contuinity mistakes. Apparently, the job description for an editor has changed.

 

[MyPokerShirt]

i agree they should never have stopped doing it, i just dont think its because theyre confused. they know their stuff, but like all of us, get confused/forget -- whatever. if they gave footnotes maybe things would be better and there would be no calls for reboots!

 

[Harlekin]

I doubt it's a confusion/ignorance thing. Editors have just stopped caring. Heck, Peter David even admitted in the X-Factor letter pages there is pretty much no coordination between titles. He didn't even know about Banshee's death until the issue of Deadly Genesis with his death came out, or about the Sentinels and X-Men house-arrest and all that jazz. Editors don't do their job anymore at Marvel.

 

[Whirlysplat]

no, its because of the internet. they think they dont have to put footnotes with sites like this, wikipedia and marvel.com around. they say it all the time... and i know plenty of people that understand the marvel universe just fine. i dont read/ take an interest in it all but what i do, i understand.

Interesting point of view, please explain to me how Iron Man can knock an enraged Hulk out in normal armour in issue 132 way back when and needs Hulkbuster armour in the nineties?

- Whirly