Do you want the X-Men in the MCU?

I know what your agenda is from reading your posts here and I don't even know why I'm replying.

But I consider it a personal insult that you are calling me a "anti-MCU fan". You need only look at my user name and join date if you want to know what brought me to this forum to begin with.

I know its impossible for you to understand this but there are some of us who are only here because we want to discuss our love of comics and movies and we are not interested in joining any fanatical factions.

Read my post again, it clearly states "these anti-MCU" not "You anti-MCU". Maybe things would be so impossible for you if you didn't take them seriously. But to be honest it just sounds like you made a flawed comment and now you're trying to backpedal. The only "agenda" here was to correct you on it.

Never the lest if it doesn't apply then let it fly.

Enjoy your weekend.
 
Magneto is truly a great villain. But he's also been the same villain EVERY DAMN MOVIE. I liked X2 the best because we get treated to Striker's villainy for a change - of course Magneto still pulls his schtick in the end. Hopefully Apocalypse will deliver something different.

All odds point at him being a "one-note psychopath".
 
X-Men requires a gray and a villain and a bit of darkness that the MCU is not really about. I honestly think the property would lose something with them. Perhaps a Netflix version could address some of the deeper things about the X-Men franchise... but a lighthearted X-Men movie with a weak underdeveloped villain? Nah, no thanks.
 
Yeah, Kingpin is friggin awesome:up:

Loved the adaption of his character.

Yeah man! He was downright scary. Scariest villain in the MCU IMO. (Possibly any Marvel adaptation.) I only put Loki ahead of him in my own book because Hiddleston plays Loki to perfection.
 
Based on Feige's recent comments about humor being in the MCU DNA (which unlike many I do love - full disclosure) I actually don't think it's bad that Fox keeps the X-Men just for a change of pace tonally. There's a lot I dislike about Fox-Men but I have to think they can fix these things and they can start by ditching the awful black leather costumes. The MCU is busy enough and I'm really looking forward to seeing what they do with the Inhumans. Having the X-Men would just crowd things further and not really add much IMO.

I hate the continuity of Fox-Men but even though I feel DOFP was a mess of a film perhaps it is a step in the right direction with regards to fixing the overarching issues with the series. (And yet the utter lack of stakes from here on out is hard to swallow.) Also they need to figure out how to have an antagonist not named Magneto.

But I'm more than willing to give Fox a fair shake - especially because they did make one of my favorite CBM's in X2. But they really really need to just quit with the Fantastic Four. I get disgusted every time I see the trailers.
 
X-Men requires a gray and a villain and a bit of darkness that the MCU is not really about. I honestly think the property would lose something with them. Perhaps a Netflix version could address some of the deeper things about the X-Men franchise... but a lighthearted X-Men movie with a weak underdeveloped villain? Nah, no thanks.
Same here!

I cannot wait to see how Bryan will treat Apocalypse!
 
A few things to keep in mind.

Joss Whedon had a run on the X-Men books and it had plenty of humor. While X-Men has the whole prosecuted misunderstood minority angle with the mutants it is not %100 serious all the time nor should it be.

Marvel would love to have the X-Men back. That is why they are seemingly trying to have the Inhumans take on the role of the super powered prosecuted misunderstood minority group in the MCU, because they own the rights to the Inhumans %100 and don't have to share any revenue with FOX. If they ever got the X-Men back, the Inhumans would likely not play as prominent of a role as they currently do in the MCU.

The mutants and X-Men have been part of the comic book Marvel universe just fine. Even X-Men cartoons like the one from the 90's and Evolution had other Marvel characters and references to other Marvel characters in them. I don't have a problem with that personally but that is just me.
 
I like to view it as Inhumans are the Xmen are the MCU. And to a lesser extant Guardians of the Galaxy are the Fantastic 4.
 
Based on Feige's recent comments about humor being in the MCU DNA (which unlike many I do love - full disclosure) I actually don't think it's bad that Fox keeps the X-Men just for a change of pace tonally. There's a lot I dislike about Fox-Men but I have to think they can fix these things and they can start by ditching the awful black leather costumes. The MCU is busy enough and I'm really looking forward to seeing what they do with the Inhumans. Having the X-Men would just crowd things further and not really add much IMO.

I hate the continuity of Fox-Men but even though I feel DOFP was a mess of a film perhaps it is a step in the right direction with regards to fixing the overarching issues with the series. (And yet the utter lack of stakes from here on out is hard to swallow.) Also they need to figure out how to have an antagonist not named Magneto.

But I'm more than willing to give Fox a fair shake - especially because they did make one of my favorite CBM's in X2. But they really really need to just quit with the Fantastic Four. I get disgusted every time I see the trailers.

I agree, and I think one reason the X-Men works better alone is that the "mutant hunt" seems more logical when there aren't a ton of other supers running around. The mutant threat is so much more of a threat if it's not just that they are humans evolving but also are the only ones that show these fantastical powers. When you have gods walking the Earth the mutants don't seem that special.
 
No I really don't want the X-Men or FF in the MCU. I've liked the last few X-films and there are other characters I'm way more interested in for the MCU, so this is a win-win for me.
 
A few things to keep in mind.

Joss Whedon had a run on the X-Men books and it had plenty of humor. While X-Men has the whole prosecuted misunderstood minority angle with the mutants it is not %100 serious all the time nor should it be.

Marvel would love to have the X-Men back. That is why they are seemingly trying to have the Inhumans take on the role of the super powered prosecuted misunderstood minority group in the MCU, because they own the rights to the Inhumans %100 and don't have to share any revenue with FOX. If they ever got the X-Men back, the Inhumans would likely not play as prominent of a role as they currently do in the MCU.

The mutants and X-Men have been part of the comic book Marvel universe just fine. Even X-Men cartoons like the one from the 90's and Evolution had other Marvel characters and references to other Marvel characters in them. I don't have a problem with that personally but that is just me.

But Marvel has already put their hopes on the Inhumans, so switching them out for mutants would be very jarring and weird. Plus with all those characters under one studio, it would literally take forever to get them all some decent screen time.

Also - the X-Men characters worked fine in the comics so long as the references to other superheroes didn't get too much. But personally (as a huge x-men fan growing up) I always found it really bizarre when I opened a FF or Captain America comic and saw these superheroes being treated like celebrated royalty all the while the entire human race was supposedly scared s#!tless of mutants. It didn't stop me from enjoying the stories, but it did bother me quite a lot, and I'm very pleased to have the X-Men occupying their own unique universe (although I do hope the movies continue to improve their quality and work much more towards strong character development for everyone, rather than just the biggest stars).
 
I mainly want the most high profile mutants as part of the MCU. Characters/teams from the 90s-forward, and historical fringe characters, can stay at Fox.
I want a Nightcrawler/SPider-Man team-up. I want to see Wolverine & Black Widow team up.
 
Personally I'd love it as long as they could keep the tone more along the lines of The Winter Soldier/Daredevil, as well as focus on the adult versions of the characters with only small references to the children at the X-Mansion like in the first 2 movies. I don't like this X-Kids direction Fox is going in now. I wouldn't want Marvel to turn it into another action-comedy. Not that I hate the comedy of the MCU, it's usually pretty good and has only been overdone in 3 of the 11 movies for me. But the X-Men are suited for a more serious tone.

I'd love to see Wolverine and many X-Men villains interact with Avengers and now Spider-Man. To me, the X-Men has by far the best rouge gallery of the Marvel world, admittedly mostly because of the depth/number of good villains but also the quality as well.

X-Men going to Marvel would also mean the end of Bryan Singer and the introduction of comic accurate costumes, which are both huge pluses in my book. I definitely think Marvel would be able to find a Director that's better capable of handling the characters and making the movies more action packed at the same time. Singer really only knows how to do Wolverine, Magneto, Xavier and Mystique any kind of justice (though if I see Wolverine break down in tears one more time I'm gonna puke). My only fear with X-Men going to Marvel would be quality of the Villains portrayal. MCU villains haven't been stellar so far, but if they got the right writers/director for X-Men they'd be fine, the X-villains are just more compelling than the current MCU villains and should be easier to get right.
 
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I would but it'd have to be a completely rebooted X-Men universe like with Spider-Man
 

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