Does Everything Have to Be Connected Always?

[NHawk19]

The movies have to be connected (or atleast adhere to the established rules until they can be tied in later) and everything flows down from there. We really haven't seen anything from the shows flow up to the films yet though. Even in the End Game battle there was no pan shot that showed the Defenders, or SHIELD at a glance. I'd go so far as saying some of the shows are loose cannon at best.

 

[psylockolussus]

The Disney+ shows imo, will be the first true set of MCU shows. While Jarvis appearing in Endgame was just a small easter egg.

 

[InCali]

You saw the payoff in Avengers Infinity War and Endgame. Those TWO movies made over $4B WW. That's how much it cost Disney to buy Marvel. It is so worth it.

True, true, true. Actually they made almost $5B WW. I would say, in general, yes. Everything should be connected. That being said, never say never or always. I can see Marvel dipping their toes in alternate universes that don't need to connect to the present one. That doesn't mean you can't bring them together though....

 

[MadVillainy]

In general I say yes.
But honestly...I don't need Blade bumping elbows with most of the MCU. I don't need The Punisher showing up in the movies, even Deadpool I wouldn't care if he never was in one of the mainstream MCU movies

 

[InCali]

In general I say yes.
But honestly...I don't need Blade bumping elbows with most of the MCU. I don't need The Punisher showing up in the movies, even Deadpool I wouldn't care if he never was in one of the mainstream MCU movies

Can't wait to see what they do with Blade though. That could get REALLY interesting. I hope I'm not disappointed.

Ryan's Deadpool isn't that good of a fit in MCU, so, yeah, I agree.

 

[NotNickFury]

If we're talking films, then sure. But everything else from Marvel Television up until it ended up under Feige's thumb, then no, not really. I don't see Jeph Loeb ever admitting that "It's All Connected" was a sham because for a moment, it wasn't. The fact that Markus and McFeely spearheaded Agent Carter, the fact that you got the likes of Sif and Nick Fury on Agents of SHIELD shows that there was a genuine effort to connect film to TV.

But that relationship was always going to end up one sided. SHIELD itself is a bygone remnant of Phase One as far as the films are concerned, more so after Winter Soldier, so whatever that show does wouldn't matter in the grand scheme of things and the same applies to the Marvel Netflix shows, Cloak and Dagger, Runaways and so on. Like the pages of a comic book, not everything is going to sync up with the greater threat or narrative and it doesn't have to. Everyone can just occupy their own corner or bubble of the universe.

But as far as these shows go, once we start getting announcements of new actors playing Matt Murdock and so on to be in the Marvel Cinematic Universe proper, then maybe people will accept that they weren't as connected as they originally thought.

 

[InCali]

If we're talking films, then sure. But everything else from Marvel Television up until it ended up under Feige's thumb, then no, not really. I don't see Jeph Loeb ever admitting that "It's All Connected" was a sham because for a moment, it wasn't. The fact that Markus and McFeely spearheaded Agent Carter, the fact that you got the likes of Sif and Nick Fury on Agents of SHIELD shows that there was a genuine effort to connect film to TV.

But that relationship was always going to end up one sided. SHIELD itself is a bygone remnant of Phase One as far as the films are concerned, more so after Winter Soldier, so whatever that show does wouldn't matter in the grand scheme of things and the same applies to the Marvel Netflix shows, Cloak and Dagger, Runaways and so on. Like the pages of a comic book, not everything is going to sync up with the greater threat or narrative and it doesn't have to. Everyone can just occupy their own corner or bubble of the universe.

But as far as these shows go, once we start getting announcements of new actors playing Matt Murdock and so on to be in the Marvel Cinematic Universe proper, then maybe people will accept that they weren't as connected as they originally thought.

Yeah. Agreed. That situation with the TV shows (esp broadcast TV) was never going to work. I remember thinking at the time that they put those shows out just to sort of whet the public appetite for anything Marvel. The Netflix shows were a little different. I'd really like to see DD and JJ on the big screen/Disney+ and I'd love it if they would keep the same actors.

 

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