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There were 2 Things in Thor Ragnorok that really stuck out to me and concerned me with confusion.
Maybe some one can help me.
1.Warrior 3 were killed yet Thor makes no mention of it no Grief no moment where it was actualized and no moment where he even questioned their whereabouts or existence especially in the end fight and upon leaving with all of his People???
Also while Sith was not there I would have expected some mention of her whereabouts at least from the 3.
2.Thor meets and Greets the Hulk with no Surprise or acknowledgements of his growth and ability to Speak as much as as Fluent???

Ideas on this Anyone?
I also feel Marvel has this habit of playing up Characters just to discard them as little to nothing...Totally disrespecting certain Characters...
 
There were 2 Things in Thor Ragnorok that really stuck out to me and concerned me with confusion.
Maybe some one can help me.
1.Warrior 3 were killed yet Thor makes no mention of it no Grief no moment where it was actualized and no moment where he even questioned their whereabouts or existence especially in the end fight and upon leaving with all of his People???

He didn't see them die, and he came to Asgard in the middle of a battle where I doubt anyone told him. On top of that Asgard is gone now and he is king. No time to really mourn after Asgard's destruction.


Also while Sith was not there I would have expected some mention of her whereabouts at least from the 3.

Jamie Alexander had scheduling conflict, so she could not be in it. Maybe she will appear in something down the road.

2.Thor meets and Greets the Hulk with no Surprise or acknowledgements of his growth and ability to Speak as much as as Fluent???

Ideas on this Anyone?
I also feel Marvel has this habit of playing up Characters just to discard them as little to nothing...Totally disrespecting certain Characters...

Maybe Thor was surprised and he just didn't say anything and rolled with it.
 
On the second point, we really saw very little of Hulk in Avengers films, and his ability to speak at that time may have been greater than what we saw.

And after several years apart, it wouldn't be overly surprising that Hulk could speak better. Even if Thor was surprised/impressed, I don't know if it would be a point of conversation. It would just be something a little new that Thor would likely accept with little comment.
 
True but Thor not to mention of or even question as to where and why your supposed BEST FRIENDS from Childhood were not in Battle if not for anything then some concern for there well being afterwards...I would not have a problem with if not for Marvel themselves playing up this relationship as such...Even a One liner as they did about Jane Foster and him Breaking up..."Aye I shall miss my Brother who have fallen in Battle"...Whether Thor was aware or not we as viewers are aware therefore the film is also to address its audience.

As far as Sith is concerned I knew Alexander had Sheduling conflicts...That explains Alexander the exterior I was referring to the Interior of the Character Sith not Alexander...If that makes sense..

Hmm... again I don't see Thor just rolling with it as much as your Friends with someone who mostly Roared and Growled hardley said more then 2 words then just enters into full blown Dialogue without an Eyebrow raised or Question...even a "My we have alot to say these days" ...

I know I seem to be Nitpicking on some little holes but it matters to me when it comes to Character development...Especially Character development Marvel themselves took time to build..I also feel that way about Charatcers they Build up then kill them just to drive a Story...Coulson,Quicksilver,Crossbones,Shocker..Characters we had yet to get a Taste of ...I was Siked when Crossbones lived for revenge in Cap 3 just to die barley 10 Minutes into the next film...

Shocker too I was just waiting for them to build more on him...Characters so rich and barley got to show what they had to offer..It was said the Warrior were 3 were killed off JUST to show how threatening Hela was...

I just don't like when Characters are used as Plot devices because what your saying is you couldn't find another way..The Plot should be working for the Character not the Character working for the Plot.

See I feel totally different about Odin's death it wasn't a Plot device to drive the story it was the story that drove the Plot.

Heck you could have had Hela killing off Odin in his weakened state driving the Plot even better as a Revenge story and showing how powerful she is way moreso then the Warrior 3 really.

Just my point of view.Thoughts?
Even if you feel Im Wrong.
 
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They had a line about Thor breaking up with Jane Foster because Natalie wasn't in the movie (and doesn't plan to be any more Marvel movies) so they explained to the audience members who were wondering where she was why she wasn't there. Thor did not see the deaths of the warrior three (but the audience did), when he shows up on Asgarde there is a war with Hela going on, so doesn't really have time to ask where they are. They leave it up to the audience to assume that he talks to someone about it later, just as it is assumed that he grieves the death of most of his race. It can be assumed that Lady Sif was off-world on some mission (she was shown to go off-world to Earth on Agents of SHIELD and Hogun was shown being off-world in Thor:TDW).
 
The Warriors Thee where clearly taken out of the picture without much acknowledgement even though Hogun had his moment to shine still. The biggest issue people have is that it wasn't dress by Thor himself and i agree that could have been easily fixed and so as the death of the other 2 in the BiFrost.

They could have got the Warriors Three in front of the asgardian army together and that would make it better. And also Heimdall could have said to Thor that his friend didn't make it which would also work very well. Personally i was kinda shocked when they died so suddenly in the Bifrost but i quickly was over it because they weren't that important character for me and because there was so much cooler stuff happening everywhere... Also Sif whereabouts could have been mentioned too in order to tighten things up.

Heimdall could have a line of dialog like "Your friends, The Warrior Three fell in a last stand against Hela and Sif is missing". That would be much better. A simply line of dialog. In the end of the day personally i really don't miss TWT at all.

The other thing when Thor first meets Hulk he just says... "Hullllkkkkk" "No Banner only Hulk". Then later on they do speak more but Hulk clearly is still learning to speak.. I felt it was a natural and gradual progression to the character. So that didn't bother me at all.
 
They had a line about Thor breaking up with Jane Foster because Natalie wasn't in the movie (and doesn't plan to be any more Marvel movies) so they explained to the audience members who were wondering where she was why she wasn't there. Thor did not see the deaths of the warrior three (but the audience did), when he shows up on Asgarde there is a war with Hela going on, so doesn't really have time to ask where they are. They leave it up to the audience to assume that he talks to someone about it later, just as it is assumed that he grieves the death of most of his race. It can be assumed that Lady Sif was off-world on some mission (she was shown to go off-world to Earth on Agents of SHIELD and Hogun was shown being off-world in Thor:TDW).
I agree. In terms of Asgard's destruction Thor still says "What have i done?" and we see that he is still processing his choice of saving his people while having to destroy is home planet.
 
They tried a bit too hard to downplay Thor 2. It was almost a soft reboot
 
^That. Very soft, but definitely a reboot, and into a much less serious series, no less.

Answering the question honestly... they just didn't care that much. A lot of people disliked Thor 2 and they don't want anyone to feel like they need to go back and watch it, or even the original Thor, and so they did not pay off things from these movies in any meaningful way. The one relevant part of Thor 2 they had re-enacted in Thor 3, to save all of us the trouble.

Thor 3 presents a lot of these little problems to people who cared about or enjoyed Thor 1 & 2.

Oh well.
 
The entire movie takes place over the span of a week or so to Thor. Him not knowing about the Warriors Three dying isn't a huge deal yet because we haven't seen him take time to grieve and inventory the survivors.

When he shows up to Asgard he has no idea what terror Hela has unleashed, and no way to contact the Warrior's. All he knows is that he has his current companions. I would assume if they reference the loss it would be in the next movie after Thor has a chance to inventory what's left of Asgard, or we may just have to assume it happens off screen.

Shame them being in the movie only to get killed after a few seconds of screen time.
 
There were 2 Things in Thor Ragnorok that really stuck out to me and concerned me with confusion.
Maybe some one can help me.
1.Warrior 3 were killed yet Thor makes no mention of it no Grief no moment where it was actualized and no moment where he even questioned their whereabouts or existence especially in the end fight and upon leaving with all of his People???
Also while Sith was not there I would have expected some mention of her whereabouts at least from the 3.
2.Thor meets and Greets the Hulk with no Surprise or acknowledgements of his growth and ability to Speak as much as as Fluent???

It did shock me, we didn't see him greeving much over the loss of his 3 friends.. BUT maybe he wasn't shocked on Hulk speaking, as i initially wasn't..
 

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