Thor: Script Reviews/Discussion

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Here's a script review I just stumbled on. If this is old then sorry. It was posted on 9/27 and I didn't see anything posted here at that time or newer so...here it is...

http://www.thecomicforums.com/forum2/index.php?showtopic=118527

I put the spoiler-lite in the title just to cover my own ass. There are no real spoilers in the review, as far as I am concerned.

I was very reserved when I heard the possibility of a Thor movie. How would they capture all of that magic in one film without a huge budget. I thought it might be best as a direct to DVD animated movie. After reading this script review, I have changed my point of view on this. Don't get me wrong, I am not naive, but it appears to be off to a great start.




Thor, God of Thunder, Comics AND Film?!?

It has been quite some time since I last checked in and did a little blogging, so I figured with the proper bug up my ass it was time to lay down some blog geekery. I know much has already been said about Thor, but for some reason, I never thought there would be much to say by me. I respect the Thor character, and love the legacy. I know there have been some great stories told, and hell ... I even love me some Beta Ray Bill ... but I've never really read Thor. However, it seems the Asgardian is making a big old comeback and he has my attention.

I was recently handed a copy of the greenlit Thor script by Mark Protosevich, and I absolutely loved it. While only a first draft of the script, this thing is epic! I just hope that a majority of what is in this first draft makes its way to that silver screen. Protosevich focuses his story on Asgard and Midgard, no modern day touches, no Dr. Don Blake ... and in that, it is amazing. I think a focus on earthly elements would water down the fact that Thor's a freakin' god. Like so many complaints with Transformers, what people wanted was giant robots, and not lame humans. In a Thor movie, you need to deal with gods, and this script does exactly that.

It is an origin story that has all of the characters you'd hope to see in Odin, Balder, Fandral, Volstagg, Thor, of course ... and who would you like to see as the villain? I hope your answer is Loki because the portrayal here is fantastically fun. While just words on the page, the moment where Loki dons his famous green and yellow duds with the long horns is so vivid and exciting. The film feels like Lord of the Rings meets Spider-Man ... and I only bring in Spider-Man because the first two films capture the comic-bookish feel so well. And that is what Thor is: It's epic, filled with adventure, but doesn't forget that it's a comic book and not an adaptation of a literary classic.

When Loki's scheming leads to Thor being banished from Asgard, he must forget his vanity, find Mjolnir, and make his way home. I'm going to leave it at that, so as not to ruin anyone's fun or expectations, let's just say that it is the real deal, and if you haven't been excited about the prospect of a Thor film, well, start getting excited! With Matthew Vaughn onboard I really feel that this will be a much-talked-about Marvel film when it hits that silver screen. Vaughn has proven with Layer Cake that he can do action, and then again on Stardust, although it wasn't reviewed very favorably and kind of came and went at the box office, he proved that he can do fantasy and effects. That being the case, this could be a match made in heaven.

Which brings me to JMS's current run on the newly relaunched Thor title. Are you reading it? You should be! Again, as someone who is not the world's biggest Thor fan having just not read that much, this run has me excited. It's an interesting take on gods living amongst us, as well as an interesting take on a belief in gods in the first place. How does a god die when they're alive and well with us? JMS has done a very interesting job bringing Thor back from the dead, something most comic readers have become jaded about as no one stays dead in comics, but at least here it is belivable within its context.

Not to mention that issue 3 has given us but a taste of that battle between Thor and Iron Man that we all have been waiting for. Thor is no pushover, he's a god, he cannot be bullied even by Iron Man, nor does he appreciate his legacy being used to kill Bill Foster, a human, but a hero nonetheless.

All in all ... if you can find the first 3 issues of Thor, buy them and read them ... this is shaping up to be a great Thor run that will only make people more eager for a film ... and in this case you get what you want, and what you need. Take that Rolling Stones!! What do you know about Thor?!?
 
MMMM I've seen it but not sure if it was here or not.
 
I know I felt like I read that before but perhaps it's because he's reviewing the same draft. Didn't AICN review the same draft a few weeks back?
 
I think so, but I don't go to AICN.
I think I may have seen it at either the Marvel boards or the Thor boards.
 
Keeping Thor in Asgard? Then how will they make him relevent to the modern world and move him into the Avenger's mythos?

T.
 
Well it does say both Asgard AND Midgard, so Loki is involved in getting Thor banished to Midgard.
I'm Still not seeing where it says Thor's 20 in the film.
 
I'm gonna read this one right now. I'll let you know what I think positive or negative but that's it. I'll answer general questions but no specifics.
 
Yep. Just finished it and I can see why it needed 300 million to bring it to light exactly as written. It's final 45 minutes or so makes the biggest battles of Lord of the Rings seem bland. They really don't have to cut any of the major scenes out to get the budget down either...just be a bit creative. The creatures that fill this story are going to be amazing. It has Shakespean tragedy written all over it but it's not in old English, mix that with Clash of the Titans, and you'll have a picture in your head of how this film is gonna feel. It's easily will be the best Marvel film ever if they can get about 75% of that on the screen. It blows away any Spidey film for sure...and I"m not a THor fan. I'm not gonna spoil anything specific here though. No way they'll be able to start filming next month unless they've been secretly prepping this film. I can't see it filming before January...maybe they'll surprise us. This is huge guys. It's apparently the first draft too from months ago so I'm sure the latest version is even more fine tuned. The big question is who is gonna do all of the F/X with the F/X houses so damn busy.

Lastly, I wanted to read this script because I'm so unfamiliar with Thor. I've read a few comics but this is my first real reading of a Thor story of any length. I always thought of this to be one of the most difficult franchises to pull off on screen...no more.
 
Yep. Just finished it and I can see why it needed 300 million to bring it to light exactly as written. It's final 45 minutes or so makes the biggest battles of Lord of the Rings seem bland. They really don't have to cut any of the major scenes out to get the budget down either...just be a bit creative. The creatures that fill this story are going to be amazing. It has Shakespean tragedy written all over it but it's not in old English, mix that with Clash of the Titans, and you'll have a picture in your head of how this film is gonna feel. It's easily will be the best Marvel film ever if they can get about 75% of that on the screen. It blows away any Spidey film for sure...and I"m not a THor fan. I'm not gonna spoil anything specific here though. No way they'll be able to start filming next month unless they've been secretly prepping this film. I can't see it filming before January...maybe they'll surprise us. This is huge guys.

I've got a question: Does it feel like a Super Hero film? I mean I know it takes place in Asgard and everything, but does it have like a completely LOTR-esque fantasy tone to it, or is it something where people who have never even heard of Thor would realize that this guy is a Superhero and not just your average male lead in a fantasy film, even though the setting itself is completely Fatasy based? If that makes any sense.
 
It feels like Clash of the Titans merged w/Lord of the Rings but much grander. Thor's character reminds me of Russel Crowe in Gladiator. It's superbly written. I think most people will go into this film not knowing the story behind Thor like myself. However when watching it they'll understand exactly who he is right away and what he can do.
 
Hello there! :)

Advanced Dark said:
Yep. Just finished it and I can see why it needed 300 million to bring it to light exactly as written. It's final 45 minutes or so makes the biggest battles of Lord of the Rings seem bland.

So basically any sequel is doomed because it can't possibly top this first movie. Is that a fair assessment?

They really don't have to cut any of the major scenes out to get the budget down either...just be a bit creative. The creatures that fill this story are going to be amazing. It has Shakespean tragedy written all over it but it's not in old English, mix that with Clash of the Titans, and you'll have a picture in your head of how this film is gonna feel. It's easily will be the best Marvel film ever if they can get about 75% of that on the screen. It blows away any Spidey film for sure...and I"m not a THor fan.

So you are unfamiliar with the origins of the Mighty Thor?

I'm not gonna spoil anything specific here though.

One minor question:

Is Thor himself portrayed as heroic or as a braggart and a bully?

Just trying so envision how they set up a potential sequel.

No way they'll be able to start filming next month unless they've been secretly prepping this film. I can't see it filming before January...maybe they'll surprise us. This is huge guys. It's apparently the first draft too from months ago so I'm sure the latest version is even more fine tuned. The big question is who is gonna do all of the F/X with the F/X houses so damn busy.

Thats a good point.

Lastly, I wanted to read this script because I'm so unfamiliar with Thor. I've read a few comics but this is my first real reading of a Thor story of any length. I always thought of this to be one of the most difficult franchises to pull off on screen...no more.

Hmmm.
 
I wish there was an easy way to fill you in on Thor AD.
I wish Marvel would reprint the Tales of Asgard storys, that would help you alot.
 
Hello there! :)



So basically any sequel is doomed because it can't possibly top this first movie. Is that a fair assessment?



So you are unfamiliar with the origins of the Mighty Thor?



One minor question:

Is Thor himself portrayed as heroic or as a braggart and a bully?

Just trying so envision how they set up a potential sequel.



Thats a good point.



Hmmm.

I think a sequel could top this one for sure. If you read the little bit of info in the first post you'll see what happens to Thor. That brief review is correct...so the next one we'd see Thor from the beginning to the end with his powers, and with a major villain from start to finish. This isn't set up as a one film deal. This clearly sets up future movies in several ways. Let me tell you one thing though...the ending alone (last 45 minutes in this movie would probably cost 75 million.) It's non-stop action and would require CGI big time.
 
Even tho I haven't read the script, I'd have to agree that any sequel would be able to top the first since the first film is setting Thor up to be a superhero.
In order to understand Thor you NEED to go back to his childhood and what got him bannished from Asgard and into Blake. That is if they do go that route.

When Thor was on the Hulk tv show movie, they had Thor under Blake's control in stead of learning from inside Blake, Thor had to do a certain amount of good deeds and learn hummility that way so he could return to Asgard.
Thor was SO close to a tv show with that idea, but, fell through because Thor liked to party, and certain people didn't like the idea.
 
Is Donald Blake in this? Does he stay on earth? Whats Loki do?

ILM and Rhythm and hues will probably be doing FX.
 
According to the review Blake is NOT in the movie. Read the Review above, it does answer SOME questions.
From the review, it's my understanding Thor has to search for Mjolnir, and it would be my guess Thor would have to go through certain trials in order to find Mjolnir, very similar to the idea I just mentioned from the Hulk tv show movie.
 
^ Yes but it's probably not how you think. Think of the search for the Golden Fleece...but much bigger in scope. No DB in this one. It's funny reading it because all the names are completely confusing to read. The first 3 letters in each name is a consanant. LOL It'll come across better on film. Keep in mind what I read is apparently a first draft. I don't know how anyone could say this is similar to Spider-Man with the exception that it's an origin story. It's not like that...it's bigger more epic. There's much more at stake then a whining girl.
 
lol MANY Norse names are like that AD. MAN I can't wait to see who they pick to play the characters.
 
I'm sure we'll find out soon enough. Kevin McKidd could fit in a number of roles including Thor. I'll tell you one thing Loki is an evil creepy bastard.
 
I don't know the history behind Thor or where in Midgard he is banished too. I got the impression from the writing it's the past.
 
I'm sure we'll find out soon enough. Kevin McKidd could fit in a number of roles including Thor. I'll tell you one thing Loki is an evil creepy bastard.

In the comics, Loki is not creepy. He's an evil bastard but definitely not creepy. He's a cross between Lex Luthor and Joker.
 
Well Loki can be Creepy depending on who views him.
We fans are used to Loki, and someone new to Thor may think that he is alittle creepy.
AD has little knowledge of Thor history and characters. I'm helping him out alittle with that hopefully.
 
In the comics, Loki is not creepy. He's an evil bastard but definitely not creepy. He's a cross between Lex Luthor and Joker.

Well in a couple scenes he's damn creepy. He clearly is struggling with what he's doing but always gives in to what you would call I guess...evil. There's one point where he see's his reflection and it's eerie. Hope that makes it in the film. And to clarify something I said above it's definately not present time in Midgard unless it's The Village.
 

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