Rise of the Silver Surfer DR. DOOM/Julian McMahon Discussion

[Lightning Strykez!]

It was stoo-ped!

 

[The Apatow Crew]

Of course it wasn't the biggest problem.....but it is certainly one that I remember everytime the name Doom is mentioned.....and when I read that line in the novelization, it JUST DIDN'T FIT......it wasn't funny.....

Atleast he didn't say "oh know you didn't?! Talk to the hand cause the face don't wanna hear it"

*hands the hand gesture*

 

[antariss]

The thing for me is I don't even really consider Doom in the first film to be unfaithful to the source material. I like how he was portrayed save for minor problems *cough* marco polo *cough*.

The way i see it the first film was more of a set up for Doom to lead him into his full glory for the sequel. Now given the information we have about the more faithful and evil Doom we have in the sequel, is anyone willing to accept the Doom from the first film within the context of how he is presented next? Instead of looking at it as two movies, look at the arc of Doom and how he's grown as a character in the movies. Surely you can say after FF2 that they did a good job developing the character.

Just look at Doom within context of both films and you can see how the FF1 Doom fits.

Like, totally agree dudet:

 

[Qwerty©]

I'm honestly glad Doctor Doom doesn't act like he does in the comic....the comic version tends to be far too over the top and corny.

I'd rather have over the top and corny rather than unimaginative and nonthreatening.

 

[Bishop2]

Of course it wasn't the biggest problem.....but it is certainly one that I remember everytime the name Doom is mentioned.....and when I read that line in the novelization, it JUST DIDN'T FIT......it wasn't funny.....

I just finished listening to the audio commentary on the Extended Edition last night, the one with Tim Story and Avi Arad and the screenwriters... and everybody agreed that they never liked that line and feel it was out of character. So why is it in there?

 

[LostSon88]

FOX. They wanted to see how else they could give a big FU to the fans...

 

[uchiha_itachi]

I just finished listening to the audio commentary on the Extended Edition last night, the one with Tim Story and Avi Arad and the screenwriters... and everybody agreed that they never liked that line and feel it was out of character. So why is it in there?

what the **** is up with that lol

 

[Kelly]

I just finished listening to the audio commentary on the Extended Edition last night, the one with Tim Story and Avi Arad and the screenwriters... and everybody agreed that they never liked that line and feel it was out of character. So why is it in there?

THAT was why I puposely watched it without the commentary.....Michael Chiklis pissed me off enough with all his excuses on the theatrical cut....

 

[LostSon88]

Excuses?

 

[Bishop2]

THAT was why I puposely watched it without the commentary.....Michael Chiklis pissed me off enough with all his excuses on the theatrical cut....

The audio commentary is pretty fascinating because it really makes you wonder who put together this new Extended Cut... there are some scenes they say are stupid and don't work (Wolverine gag), but there they are in the new version... Tim Story specifically states where the restaurant scene with Victor and Sue was supposed to go, but somehow it's in the wrong damn place in the movie... obviously the director and producers had nothing to do with this new version. It was compiled by a flunkie who randomly threw scenes into the film in the hopes it would all make sense eventually, and it shows.

 

[TNC9852002]

Argh...I still need to get that extended version. I sold my original DVD copy so that I wouldn't have to have to versions of the same movie. I did the same with X-Men and Daredevil.

BTW, I saw the movie last night, so if there are any daring souls out there with questions, you can ask me now....or whatever.

-TNC

 

[uchiha_itachi]

i still casnt belive they let the wolverine gag in... i mean seriously i was like wtf. i got that like sinking feeling and i was just stunned. lets hope for a proper extended cut ( i doubt it but hey)

 

[uchiha_itachi]

Argh...I still need to get that extended version. I sold my original DVD copy so that I wouldn't have to have to versions of the same movie. I did the same with X-Men and Daredevil.

BTW, I saw the movie last night, so if there are any daring souls out there with questions, you can ask me now....or whatever.

-TNC

1 simple yes or no question is it good? lol

 

[TNC9852002]

1 simple yes or no question is it good? lol

I'm leaning in a "good" direction.

It's not a very strong lean, but it's a lean.

-TNC

 

[LostSon88]

Argh...I still need to get that extended version. I sold my original DVD copy so that I wouldn't have to have to versions of the same movie. I did the same with X-Men and Daredevil.

I actually decided to keep my original copy...mostly because I like the video journal extra Ms. Alba keeps of the F4 during the promotional tour--there's even a part where I think Chris Evans looks a lil' irritated with her for filming everything. LOL.

My extended cut, i'll be watching tonight in preparation of Friday night...I havent' watched it yet.

 

[Karea07]

there's an extended cut? damn i'm outta it.

 

[LostSon88]

You didn't know?!

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...rd_t=201&pf_rd_p=252362301&pf_rd_i=B00005JNTU

 

[Karea07]

worth it or no? whats new on there?

 

[Bishop2]

Trust me, it's bad. Scenes are put into the movie out of order, scenes that were intended to replace one another are BOTH shoehorned into the film so that characters now repeat the same dialogue in back-to-back scenes, the "Wolverine" gag that even Tim Story and Avi Arad thought was stupid is now in the movie... the Extended Edition was cut together by a studio stooge on crack.

 

[Karea07]

Trust me, it's bad. Scenes are put into the movie out of order, scenes that were intended to replace one another are BOTH shoehorned into the film so that characters now repeat the same dialogue in back-to-back scenes, the "Wolverine" gag that even Tim Story and Avi Arad thought was stupid is now in the movie... the Extended Edition was cut together by a studio stooge on crack.

oh snap... thanks for the warning

not worthy of a rental?

 

[LostSon88]

I haven't watched it yet so I can't say...but yeah, people say its good in the sense that there's more character development (especially for Ben and Alicia) but that its poorly edited. About 20 minutes of new footage.

The 2nd disc however I heard has some pretty sweet documentaries...a really good one on Jack Kirby.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Trust me, it's bad. Scenes are put into the movie out of order, scenes that were intended to replace one another are BOTH shoehorned into the film so that characters now repeat the same dialogue in back-to-back scenes, the "Wolverine" gag that even Tim Story and Avi Arad thought was stupid is now in the movie... the Extended Edition was cut together by a studio stooge on crack.

He couldn't be on crack. The Thing told everyone not to do drugs!

But, this is worth the buy. The features are awesome and some nice new scenes, even if they are added oddly.

 

[Bishop2]

He couldn't be on crack. The Thing told everyone not to do drugs!

But, this is worth the buy. The features are awesome and some nice new scenes, even if they are added oddly.

I agree with that. Frankly, despite the stupid editing, there's enough in here to make it worth the buy. It comes with a free ticket for the sequel, there's HOURS of documentary features, a new audio commentary and some of the new scenes are still worth seeing even if some are inane as hell.

 

[Bishop2]

Oh, if you want to know every single new scene that's in the film, a complete list is available here.

 

[Noir]

Barbque Pit.

That is all.