The Amazing Spider-Man Drag me to hell's effect on Spidey 4?

[mclay18]

I hope that since Raimi had a much tighter schedule (and had only a fraction of the budgets he enjoyed for the Spider-Man trilogy), he could try and keep costs down himself. On a Cinemagic interview promoting DMTH, he was talking about having to relearn how to improvise and make quick decisions (and using both animatronic, minimal CGI and makeup effects). And he reiterated that he had final cut on DMTH, something he hadn't had since The Evil Dead (and will enjoy on SM-4).

Maybe for SM-4 we'll get a leaner, more cost-efficient pic. I would love to see more matte paintings and practical effects in SM-4 as opposed to some unnecessary CGI.

 

[NinjaTurtleFan]

After just coming back from seeing this this morning, all I can say is Raimi has definitely returned to his B-horror movie roots and I would find it very disheartening if he passed on The Lizard.

Carnage would be perfect too just because I think if Raimi could redo "Spider-Man 3" all over again, we would've gotten a more menacing and terrifying Venom, and some of the scenes that were cut show that.

So, please Sam, don't pass on The Lizard.

 

[luke1234]

Im hoping he does cut down on the use of CGI and use more practical effects for Spider-man 4. But then again when you have a giant lizard running around, its kinda hard to do.

 

[Symbiote666]

If they get their design right most of it could be done with an actor in prosthetics.

Cut Venom scenes? Do tell Ninja.

 

[TheFuture]

Well, Raimi has enjoyed the full creative freedom he has had on Drag Me To Hell, he's been quoted on that. Just as long as Sony really are increasing his creative control on S-M4, I think Spidey fans will be seeing something very special come Summer 2011.

 

[NinjaTurtleFan]

If they get their design right most of it could be done with an actor in prosthetics.

Cut Venom scenes? Do tell Ninja.

There was a scene where Peter sees the symbiote looking at him the mirror (it was shown in one of the TV-spots or trailers) I believe and had the symbiote all over Pete's body and face and you saw these wicked, jagged teeth coming out of his mouth. If anyone has a screenshot of this, it was cut from the theatrical film.

But I feel Lizard should be a mix of animatronics and CGI like they did in "Jurassic Park." However, Raimi I feel could use prosthetics and makeup when Connors is changing at first and make it really horrific and terrifying using loud sounds, shadows, and lots of quick close-ups ala like he did in "Drag Me."

 

[mclay18]

I do think Sony, Arad and Ziskin will have some say in the villains picked for SM-4, since they are responsible for funding and getting the pic off the ground. But they've learned their lesson on SM-3 and toned it down a bit.

 

[the dmg]

I do think Sony, Arad and Ziskin will have some say in the villains picked for SM-4, since they are responsible for funding and getting the pic off the ground. But they've learned their lesson on SM-3 and toned it down a bit.

This was what the problem with SM3 was, IMO. They should have trusted Raimi to do what he originally wanted with the third film, but he had to throw in Venom because they told him to. I'm glad that he's had that break inbetween these films, as it's always a good idea to take a break from a franchise.

 

[Hobgoblin]

Taking a break between films is probably a good thing for Sam. Then again, he literally started shooting scenes for the SM2 train fight after the first film was released and SM2 is the darling of the series, so who knows? Still, nearly 4 films into the series must be tough to keep the passion alive, so a little break cant hurt.

 

[Symbiote666]

There was a scene where Peter sees the symbiote looking at him the mirror (it was shown in one of the TV-spots or trailers) I believe and had the symbiote all over Pete's body and face and you saw these wicked, jagged teeth coming out of his mouth. If anyone has a screenshot of this, it was cut from the theatrical film.

Ahh yeah, I remember that. Not really Venom footage, but foreshadowing.

 

[TheWrathOfGod]

Deadites, there will be deadites in SM4.

 

[shinlyle]

Well, I saw "Drag me to Hell" this weekend, and I'lls ay this, I wanted to actually walk right back in and watch it again. If there had been a showing going on at 11:00pm, I would have done so, and not gotten home until 1 or 2 am. It was that good. B-movie goodness, and the best old lady fight since AoD.

Personally, I think that, if Raimi can keep this kind of passion in his next Spider-Man film, we're in for a treat!!!t:

 

[snakeinthegear]

Agreed.

 

[LightningFlash]

Saw it.

Very "bleh" movie.

Some good parts; but still more funny than scary.

Eric Kripke oughta direct a horror film instead of writing one.

 

[Spider-Ranger]

I liked the cemetery scene in "Drag me to hell". Maybe they can create a similar set and mood for "Spider-man 4", e.g. when spidey digs himself out of his grave after being buried by Kraven

 

[Adrian89]

I think this movie wasn't that bad, it was quite ok!

 

[Eric Brooks]

Well, Raimi has enjoyed the full creative freedom he has had on Drag Me To Hell, he's been quoted on that. Just as long as Sony really are increasing his creative control on S-M4, I think Spidey fans will be seeing something very special come Summer 2011.

lets hope so

 

[Reikowolf]

Huge Raimi fan since I was a kid and finally saw drag me to hell, I've got a pretty busy schedule.

loved it so much.

It's great to see this type of horror movie, where the director isn't trying to impress the audience by scaring them at every turn but instead having fun with the project and telling a story.

In the last 10 years I've seen such a decline in Horror movies to the point where everything is a rehash of the last thing that came out. We've even mined asian horror to the point where we need to watch 'voyeristic' style movies such as 'REC' or "SAW' to make a genre entertaining again.


Many of the newer horror directors and some of the older ones should take a page from Raimi, not only did it feel like an 80's horror movie, but it was a fun ride. A great mix of suspense, scares, comedy and spectacle... and original, which is a hard commodity in Hollywood now

Raimi's style has become very refined, he has taken a lot from working on the Spider-Man movies and its quickly apparent that he had very little technically issues with this project and was able to focus on just having fun with it. Less is more as he doesn't use filters to create mood but instead utilizes classic dutch angles and professional sound design, giving inanimate objects personality, the very thing that made him noticed back in the 80's

I hope this has helped him take some of the edge off of spider-man and even learn to love the source material again.

I'd be willing to wait a bit longer for the next SM movie if it results in more Raimi horror.

 

[Dark Victory]

Im hoping he does cut down on the use of CGI and use more practical effects for Spider-man 4. But then again when you have a giant lizard running around, its kinda hard to do.

Agreed. The CGI Spider-Man looked terrible and still looks terrible now. For Lizard, I could see a combination of cgi and make-up.


Anyway, it's good to hear Drag Me to Hell's great. I love Sam's Evil Dead films so I'll definitely try to catch it before it's pulled out of theaters.

 

[Retroman]

UPDATE

Drag Me To Hell's effect is starting to show on SM4 with Raimi switching director of photography Bill Pope for Peter Deming.

From Variety:

Marsh, Best has signed d.p. Florian Hoffmeister (AMC's "The Prisoner"), costume designer Catherine Thomas ("Whip It"), production designer James Merifield (BBC's "Little Dorrit") and editor Joel Plotch ("Lakeview Terrace"). Marsh, Best bookings: producers Rudd Simmons on HBO's "Boardwalk Empire" and Ed Cathell on David Schwimmer's "Trust"; production designers Rick Heinrichs on Joe Johnston's "Captain America," John Myhre on Rob Marshall's "Pirates of the Caribbean 4" and Carol Spier on Jim Sheridan's "Dream House"; d.p. Peter Deming on Sam Raimi's "Spider-Man 4"; costume designer Hope Hanafin on Miguel Arteta's "Cedar Rapids"; and editor Greg Hayden on Paul Weitz's "Meet the Fockers" sequel.

Source: http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118010817.html

I missed out on seeing Drag Me To Hell when it was in theaters so i have no idea if this is a good decision or not. However i do plan on renting the dvd soon.

 

[sPiDeRmAn2o29]

I kinda just hope he finds a role for Alison Lohman in it

that would explain the well known actress audtioning for the role of felicia rumors that I am hearing about. Then again, it's just a rumor.

 

[sPiDeRmAn2o29]

I do think Sony, Arad and Ziskin will have some say in the villains picked for SM-4, since they are responsible for funding and getting the pic off the ground. But they've learned their lesson on SM-3 and toned it down a bit.

someone give this person a spidey treat, we finally got a bingo here

 

[sPiDeRmAn2o29]

There was a scene where Peter sees the symbiote looking at him the mirror (it was shown in one of the TV-spots or trailers) I believe and had the symbiote all over Pete's body and face and you saw these wicked, jagged teeth coming out of his mouth. If anyone has a screenshot of this, it was cut from the theatrical film.

But I feel Lizard should be a mix of animatronics and CGI like they did in "Jurassic Park." However, Raimi I feel could use prosthetics and makeup when Connors is changing at first and make it really horrific and terrifying using loud sounds, shadows, and lots of quick close-ups ala like he did in "Drag Me."

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=208453706&blogId=367007853

its all in my blog including scenes that I was there for and you wont find anywhere on the internet. I am referring to the central park scene involving john jameson and a part during the parade when peter reveals to a little boy that he is spider-man scene.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

UPDATE

Drag Me To Hell's effect is starting to show on SM4 with Raimi switching director of photography Bill Pope for Peter Deming.

From Variety:

Source: http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118010817.html

I missed out on seeing Drag Me To Hell when it was in theaters so i have no idea if this is a good decision or not. However i do plan on renting the dvd soon.

Interesting.

 

[Fresh Prince]

So will SM4 be darker but with dark comedy mixed in with it l;ike Drag Me To Hell?....And also super natural creatures like Morbious or that demon villian(forget his name), Spiderman takes on?