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Isn't he still Mystic in the new show?

Yes and no...same with the films. He has been shown going SS for the SSG ritual, and went SS2 in Resurrection F. Some people have been saying he has lost his Mystic ability, but there hasn't been an answer to that.
 
Gohan can't hit SS2 anymore?

I assume he can't since he does **** all really. He needs to work out more. I still find it funny that way back when SS was the be all and end all for power and within a few years it was **** all.
 
In Battle of the Gods Gohan did a Mystic power up, but then in RoF he just went SSJ during the big fight scene. I don't think he could ever lose his ability to go SSJ2. But the Mystic power up worked by unlocking potential. By the time of RoF he had been completely slacking off and barely trained at all, so I think his current potential has dropped back down and his SSJ transformation makes him as powerful as he can be, hence no Mystic. After all, when they all met for the World Martial Arts Tournament in the Buu saga, his SSJ2 power level was actually weaker than when he fought Cell due to lack of training.
 
Gohan pisses me off for that. it's like the message of DB is you can either be a good father or a good fighter, but never both. meh, no room for well rounded characters i guess.
 
Goku's well rounded. He's the main character, he fights good and beats everyone up. How is that bad characterization? :o
 
Super's episode 16 was perfect.
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Nuff said
 
Yeah this episode was great.
 
I feel Goku and Gohan are both well rounded. It's just that the story doesn't always do a good job of presenting it.
 
Gohan pisses me off for that. it's like the message of DB is you can either be a good father or a good fighter, but never both. meh, no room for well rounded characters i guess.

Vegeta has ended up becoming both a good fighter and a good father over time, so I don't think that's the message at all.

You're looking at it a bit obtusely really. Goku has, since the beginning of the original DB, been obsessed with fighting, adventure and improvement. Him being kind of a horrible father by being obsessed with training and bettering his skills makes sense to his character since that's his drive in life. Gohan was never like that, he simply got caught up in everything due to his father's involvement. He never really had this drive to be the best he could he be, and a lot of his power came from natural untapped potential that he had no real control of. I don't think it's really hard to see him not being as obsessive about training and focusing on another part of his life during peace time.
 
TFS recently released the Android 13 movie. As usual, it's ****ing hilarious.
 
Last two eps were good. Loved Goku busting through the wall when he learned about Vegeta, hilarious.
 
Champa and Vados have made their anime debut! Judging from what happened, the new "Super" Dragon balls might reside at the core of planets. It looks like they're rushing the Resurrection F story.
 
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TFS recently released the Android 13 movie. As usual, it's ****ing hilarious.

I thought it was dull, personally. Maybe it'll be funnier the second time.

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Yes, slightly.
 
So ... I'm just here to say that Vegeta is the star of Dragon Ball Super. He is the reason why I keep watching.
 
I thought it was dull, personally. Maybe it'll be funnier the second time.

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Yes, slightly.

To be fair the actual movie was pretty boring and they can only work with what they have. I found this version much better. Having a run time of half also improved it quite a bit.
 
That's fair, but I think they could've done better than making joke after joke about 13's accent and "trucker hat."
 
What's funny is that way back when before I could watch all of the movies on Youtube, I always thought 13s powered up form was Bojack.
 
How many eps is Super up to? I'm way behind.
 
Is it up to 18 already? Damn, for some reason, it feels like it's not been that long since it started. Guess I'm just losing track since I'm not actively following it. We need to hurry up and get word on an English release.
 
I'll watch it when it gets an english dub. I have no patience for subtitles these days.
 
I'm a few weeks behind, need to catch up
 
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